Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

I'm guessing Trump is binge eating KFC right now watching the news.

though, ray:

you are predicting flynn's indictment will lead to a conclusion of trump conspiring with the russians.

my prediction remains the same: the obama admin unmasked trump campaign officials and will end up in jail for illegal unmasking (spying on the opposition).

^^ a few years from now when the "tell all" book are written by insiders...and they will be written...i think we'll see portrayals of this president reacting much like nixon did during the darkest days of watergate...minus the tweets, of course.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

you are predicting flynn's indictment will lead to a conclusion of trump conspiring with the russians.

1. flynn was not indicted....he's pleading guilty.
2. i'm not predicting anything.

try harder.

Originally Posted by raycarey

..he's pleading guilty.

to what?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

to what?

to being part of a brilliant sideshow to keep the morons busy and not paying attention to the fact that trumpet, clunton, obomba and bush are all on the same side taking the same orders?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

my prediction remains the same: the obama admin unmasked trump campaign officials and will end up in jail for illegal unmasking (spying on the opposition).

errr.....thanks for sharing.

1. wrong thread
2. nobody cares about your predictions

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

though, ray:

you are predicting flynn's indictment will lead to a conclusion of trump conspiring with the russians.

yes or no, ray?

Originally Posted by raycarey

..he's pleading guilty.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

to what?

as already posted....

Originally Posted by raycarey

"willfully and knowingly making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements and representations" to the FBI when questioned about his conversations with the former russian ambassador to the US.

jesus, i'd forgotten how tiresome you are.

oh shit.

abc news is reporting that flynn is not only cooperating with mueller, but he's willing to testify that trump directed him (flynn) to make contact with the russians.

again, this is just an abc news report...but if true, we're closer to the end than i would have guessed.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/936628560374071296

Originally Posted by raycarey

but if true, we're closer to the end than i would have guessed.

Originally Posted by raycarey

but if true, we're closer to the end than i would have guessed.

That's the three point shot....

Originally Posted by raycarey

again, this is just an abc news report...but if true, we're closer to the end than i would have guessed.

ray, as i've posted before, it's not illegal for the trump campaign to talk to the russians.

ask dershowitz.

From CNN...

In court, prosecutors detailed calls made by Flynn in late December 2016 to the senior Trump transition team at Mar-a-Lago to discuss conversations with then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. There were multiple conversations with the transition while he was having conversations with Kisyak about Russia sanctions and the Russian response.

I think this is illegal.

Originally Posted by raycarey

^^ a few years from now when the "tell all" book are written by insiders...and they will be written...i think we'll see portrayals of this president reacting much like nixon did during the darkest days of watergate...minus the tweets, of course.

One can only hope someone has had the good sense to switch their phone on to record as insurance against getting dragged into it.....

Just in case anyone wants to know....

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States.

Exclusive: Mideast nuclear plan backers bragged of support of top Trump aide Flynn

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Backers of a U.S.-Russian plan to build nuclear reactors across the Middle East bragged after the U.S. election they had backing from Donald Trump’s national security adviser Michael Flynn for a project that required lifting sanctions on Russia, documents reviewed by Reuters show.

The documents, which have not previously been made public, reveal new aspects of the plan, including the proposed involvement of a Russian company currently under U.S. sanctions to manufacture nuclear equipment. That company, major engineering and construction firm OMZ OAO, declined to comment.


The documents do not show whether Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, took concrete steps to push the proposal with Trump and his aides. But they do show that Washington-based nuclear power consultancy ACU Strategic Partners believed that both Flynn, who had worked as an adviser to the firm as late as mid-2016, and Trump were firmly in its corner.


“Donald Trump’s election as president is a game changer because Trump’s highest foreign policy priority is to stabilize U.S. relations with Russia which are now at a historical low-point,” ACU’s managing director, Alex Copson, wrote in a Nov. 16, 2016 email to potential business partners, eight days after the election.



White House officials did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. ACU declined comment and also declined to make Copson available for an interview. Previously they told a congressional committee that they had not had any dealings with Flynn since May 2016, before Trump became the Republican Party’s presidential candidate.


Flynn’s lawyer, Robert Kelner, did not respond to a request for comment.


Flynn pleaded guilty on Friday to lying to the FBI about a discussion with the former Russian ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak, in late December 2016 regarding sanctions.


The documents also show that ACU proposed ending Ukraine’s opposition to lifting sanctions on Russia by giving a Ukrainian company a $45 billion contract to provide turbine generators for reactors to be built in Saudi Arabia and other Mideast nations.


The contract to state-owned Turboatom, and loans to Ukraine from Gulf Arab states, would “require Ukraine to support lifting US and EU sanctions on Russia,” Copson wrote in the Nov. 16 email.


A Turboatom spokeswoman said she did not have an immediate comment on the matter.


The email was titled “TRUMP/PUTIN ME Marshall plan CONCEPT.” ME stands for Middle East. The title, evoking the post-World War Two plan to rebuild Western European economies, reflected the hopes of the plan’s backers that Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin could cooperate on a project that would boost Middle East economies.


The email can be seen here: tmsnrt.rs/2ALdoCY


The ACU documents reviewed by Reuters include emails, business presentations and financial estimates and date from late autumn 2016.



‘READY TO GO’


As part of their investigation into the Trump election campaign’s ties to Russia, Special Counsel Robert Mueller and Democrats on the House of Representatives’ Oversight Committee are probing whether Flynn promoted the Middle East nuclear power project as national security adviser in Trump’s White House.


Flynn resigned after just 24 days as national security adviser after it became known he had lied to Vice President Mike Pence by telling him he had not discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak in late December.


In response to questions about the emails and documents, ACU referred Reuters to letters written in June and September by ACU scientist Thomas Cochran to the House Oversight Committee.


In those letters, Cochran had laid out the project’s strategy, describing a “ready-to-go” consortium that included French, Russian, Israeli and Ukrainian interests, without naming specific companies.


The nuclear reactor plan aimed to provide Washington‘s Middle East allies with nuclear power in a way that didn’t risk nuclear weapons proliferation and also helped counter Iranian influence, improve dismal U.S.-Russian relations, and revive the moribund U.S. nuclear industry, according to the documents seen by Reuters.


The Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post reported this week that Flynn pushed a version of the nuclear project within the White House by instructing his staff to rework a memo written by a former business associate into policy for Trump to sign.


Two U.S. officials familiar with the issue told Reuters the policy document Flynn prepared for Trump’s approval proposed working with Russia on a nuclear reactor project but did not specifically mention ACU. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they did not know if Trump had read the memo or acted upon it.



‘THIS IS A BIG WIN’


On Nov. 18, 2016, 10 days after Trump won the presidential election, ACU’s Copson received an email from nuclear non-proliferation expert Reuben Sorensen saying that he had updated Flynn on the nuclear project’s status. Sorensen’s role in the project was not clear from the emails.


“Flynn is getting closer to (being named) National Security Advisor. Expect an announcement soon. This is a big win for the ACU project,” Sorensen wrote.


“Spoke with him via backchannels earlier this week. He has always believed in the vision of the ACU effort ... We need to let him get settled into the new position, but update him shortly thereafter,” Sorensen added.


The email can be seen here: tmsnrt.rs/2zTqxcZ


Reuters could not independently confirm a briefing took place. Sorensen did not reply to an email seeking comment.


On Nov. 30, 2016, Copson briefed U.S. Representative Ed Royce, Republican chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, on the nuclear project, an email shows.



Copson was joined by Jim Hamel, a senior official from Curtiss-Wright Corp., which has a nuclear division based in Royce’s California district and was eager for a role in the multi-billion dollar project.


In a follow-up email on Dec. 5 to a Royce aide, Hamel wrote, “We hope that the Chairman will follow-up on Alex’s suggestion to reach out to General Flynn” to discuss the project.


Royce’s spokesman, Cory Fritz, confirmed the briefing to Reuters. “No action was ever taken by the chairman or the committee,” he said in an email.


Hamel and Curtiss-Wright declined to comment.


Flynn was an adviser to ACU from April 2015 to June 2016, according to amended financial disclosure forms he filed in August 2017 to the Office of Government Ethics.


Democrats on the House Oversight Committee say that when Flynn applied last year to renew his government security clearance, he failed to disclose a June 2015 trip he made to Egypt and Israel to promote the reactor project. Flynn has not commented on the trips.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1DV5Z6

Cross fingers.
This is going to be an hilarious Christmas.

Originally Posted by raycarey

...but if true, we're closer to the end than i would have guessed.

Kushner is senior transition official who ordered Flynn to contact Russia: reports

Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether.

That is relevant now because one of Flynn’s lies to the FBI was when he said that he never asked Russia's ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak, to delay the vote for the U.N. Security Council resolution. The indictment released today from the office of special prosecutor Robert Mueller describes this lie: "On or about December 22, 2016, Flynn did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution."

more https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...contact-russia



The shit has hit the fan.

Flynn leaving the courthouse yesterday.

Lock him up! Lock him up!

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/936641531427065856

Mueller's next stop is Kushner.....pretty short step from there to the orange baggashit. Probably means an increase in crazy tweets with a extra side of tard statements from trumpland. It'll be a good week for CNN et al.

^ Just hope Kushner doesn't lie and take the rap for his wife's father about exactly who said what to Flynn, and anything in the vein of "I was acting on my own volition and Dad never told me to do anything".

Sounds like the poor little midget is well and truly backed into a corner.

WASHINGTON — The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee said Thursday that Attorney General Jeff Sessions refused to tell the committee whether President Trump asked him to impede the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.
"I asked the attorney general whether he was ever instructed by the president to take any action that he believed would hinder the Russia investigation, and he declined to answer the question," said Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, after Sessions completed his closed-door testimony Thursday.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ays/909742001/