Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by koman

Ms. Stein has never run a casino, or anything else involving business risk of any significance.

She does however invest quite heavily in mutual funds that are exposed to energy, oil, pharma, finance, and defense. Rather odd for such a "green" and "liberal" activist and mouthpiece. Her financial disclosure showed about $9 million of holdings in these industries she claims to despise so much.

I suppose when it comes right down to it, Ms Stein; green as she is, still wants to make a few bucks, even if it means sleeping with the enemy......

she is quite the hypocrite, time to burn her at the stake with the other of her kind

the world is tired of BS artist like her

hang her !!!

Vive Trump !!!

Originally Posted by longway

^ cujo, as usual, beams from Pluto.

How can you know trump is being played unless you believe you know what trump is thinking dumbass?

I believe Trump is thinking (if anything at all) 'What a great bloke Putin is. He said nice things about me.'

Originally Posted by Neo

US issued JAR billed itself as an indictment that would prove Russian involvement.

Talk about disappointments. The US government's much-anticipated analysis of Russian-sponsored hacking operations provides almost none of the promised evidence linking them to breaches that the Obama administration claims were orchestrated in an attempt to interfere with the 2016 presidential election.

The 13-page report, which was jointly published Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, billed itself as an indictment of sorts that would finally lay out the intelligence community's case that Russian government operatives carried out hacks on the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Clinton Campaign Chief John Podesta and leaked much of the resulting material. While security companies in the private sector have said for months the hacking campaign was the work of people working for the Russian government, anonymous people tied to the leaks have claimed they are lone wolves. Many independent security experts said there was little way to know the true origins of the attacks.

Sadly, the JAR, as the Joint Analysis Report is called, does little to end the debate. Instead of providing smoking guns that the Russian government was behind specific hacks, it largely restates previous private-sector claims without providing any support for their validity. Even worse, it provides an effective bait and switch by promising newly declassified intelligence into Russian hackers' "tradecraft and techniques" and instead delivering generic methods carried out by just about all state-sponsored hacking groups.

"This ultimately seems like a very rushed report put together by multiple teams working different data sets and motivations," Robert M. Lee, CEO and Founder of the security company Dragos, wrote in a critique published Friday. "It is my opinion and speculation that there were some really good government analysts and operators contributing to this data and then report reviews, leadership approval processes, and sanitation processes stripped out most of the value and left behind a very confusing report trying to cover too much while saying too little."

The sloppiness, Lee noted, included the report's conflation of Russian hacking groups APT28 and APT29—also known as CozyBear, Sandworm, Sednit, and Sofacy, among others—with malware names such as BlackEnergy and Havex, and even hacking capabilities such as "Powershell Backdoor." The mix up of such basic classifications does little to inspire confidence that the report was carefully or methodically prepared. And that only sows more reasons for President elect Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on the intelligence community's analysis on a matter that, if true, poses a major national security threat.

The writers showed a similar lack of rigor when publishing so-called indicators of compromise, which security practitioners use to detect if a network has been breached by a specific group or piece of malware. As Errata Security CEO Rob Graham pointed out in a blog post, one of the signatures detects the presence of "PAS TOOL WEB KIT," a tool that's widely used by literally hundreds, and possibly thousands, of hackers in Russia and Ukraine, most of whom are otherwise unaffiliated and have no connection to the Russian government.

"In other words, these rules can be a reflection of the fact the government has excellent information for attribution," Graham wrote. "Or, it could be a reflection that they've got only weak bits and pieces. It's impossible for us outsiders to tell."

"Both foolish and baseless"

Security consultant Jeffrey Carr also cast doubt on claims that attacks that hit the Democratic National Committee could only have originated from Russian-sponsored hackers because they relied on the same malware that also breached Germany's Bundestag and French TV network TV5Monde. Proponents of this theory, including the CrowdStrike researchers who analyzed the Democratic National Committee's hacked network, argue that the pattern strongly implicates Russia because no other actor would have the combined motivation and resources to hack the same targets. But as Carr pointed out, the full source code for the X-Agent implant that has long been associated with APT28 was independently obtained by researchers from antivirus provider Eset.

"If ESET could do it, so can others," Carr wrote. "It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as CrowdStrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will."

The doubts raised by Lee, Graham, and Carr underscore the difficulty members of the US intelligence community face when taking findings out of the highly secretive channels they normally populate and putting them into the public domain. Indeed, the Joint Analysis Report makes no mention of the Democratic party or even the Democratic National Committee. The lack of specifics and vagueness about exactly how the DHS and FBI have determined Russian involvement in the hacks leaves the report sounding more like innuendo than a carefully crafted indictment.

The intelligence community has found itself in this position before, including in attributing a highly destructive attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment in 2014 to North Korea. In fairness, the reticence in both cases is likely justified by the interest in protecting sources and methods used to detect such attacks. And as Lee was quick to note, strong technical evidence is likely to be included in reports to Congress that later may be declassified. Still, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Thursday's Joint Analysis Report provides almost no new evidence to support the Obama Administration's claims Russia attempted to interfere with the US electoral process. Absent something more, the increasingly bitter debate may rage on indefinitely.

White House fails to make case that Russian hackers tampered with election | Ars Technica

An empty suit with equally empty claims, soon to emptied out of the oval office, Obyebye has been in over his head for a long time.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by longway

^ cujo, as usual, beams from Pluto.

How can you know trump is being played unless you believe you know what trump is thinking dumbass?

I believe Trump is thinking (if anything at all) 'What a great bloke Putin is. He said nice things about me.'

Yes that's right guys working in NY real estate all their lives are usually just so gullible aren't they?

Anonymous. That's the keyword.

You sand cars for living. In your off time you are on RT. confirmation biased much. Why to you insist on picking the cum off putins cock? Why is Russia a no wrong nation in your eyes?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by longway

An empty suit with equally empty claims, soon to emptied out of the oval office, Obyebye has been in over his head for a long time.

Clearly several points of the article sailed right over your head. The sources quoted in the private sector acknowledged that the Russians did indeed hack. The point of the article was that the DHS failed to provide evidence to back their claims.

Another right wing buffoon with a short attention span. Is your skin tone orange like your great leader?

Did people try to hack the DNC, I would be surprised if someone didn't. Did russian government sanctioned hacking of the DNC servers take place, no way of knowing, but wouldn't be surprised if it did. The US government must be doing something similar, along with the Chinese, N Koreans and whomever else.

However, not only is the evidence of Russian government sanctioned hacking pitiful at best, they have not even begun to make the case that any information obtained from hacking was provided to wikileaks or that they did to to get Trump elected.

This is what is known as fake news.

I think Obyebye and the rest of the DNC have been so rattled by their loss, they actually have convinced themselves that Putin helped Trump, otherwise they would have to admit to themselves that the man they despised has made them look like a bunch of prats.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Anonymous. That's the keyword.

what a dishonest little tart you make, are you sure you aren't Republican

bsnub == DINO++

It's 0218 on new years you wankers. I am done tonight. Happy new year you lot

Originally Posted by longway

I think Obyebye and the rest of the DNC have been so rattled by their loss, they actually have convinced themselves that Putin helped Trump,

I think that's basically the core of it, they didn't see that wave of reality coming into their way,

and now they hang themselves around that old deflated draftboat in a sea of new world order they don't even comprehend,

about fucking time we change the world order,

^ They think they are special. They give each other enough gongs so why wouldn't they? Its as if a street urchin has climbed into the oval office through a window and sat down at the presidential desk and declared himself president and told them to fuck off, and everyone else is accepting it; they just can't their heads around it.

Originally Posted by longway

^ They think they are special. They give each other enough gongs so why wouldn't they? Its as if a street urchin has climbed into the oval office through a window and sat down at the presidential desk and declared himself president and told them to fuck off, and everyone else is accepting it; they just can't their heads around it.

Obama and Hillary minions have been living in denial for so long, that they think it's reality

now their lifeboat is deflated and they scream at the prospect of having to swim in that cold water with the rest of us

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

about fucking time we change the world order

And what this new world order look like?

^ Combovers and orange spray tan will be compulsory. Putin will be declared a living saint by the pope.

Originally Posted by Norton

And what this new world order look like?

I agree with the below but changing it is a whole different thing than saying the current world order is flawed. Trump certainly won't change the world order.

"the whole thesis that the U.S. is the champion and protector of a liberal rule-based global order and faces illiberal nations that do not buy into and need to be encouraged to accept prevailing norms, is a complex combination of beliefs many in the West truly hold. It is part of an ideological challenge to the legitimacy of the policies and regimes of other nations, mixed with a measure of self-congratulatory exceptionalism." (Amitai Etzioni)

Originally Posted by bsnub

You sand cars for living.

Sure snub... whatever you say, but you're still an idiot living in moms basement and married to the bottle

Originally Posted by bsnub

YWhy is Russia a no wrong nation in your eyes?

Fuck all to do with that... globally the whole Establishment is corrupt.

I just like to see you and humbert make complete dicks of yourselves.. post #1507 for example.
Clearly you are talking shit once again... can you admit it? Can you move on? Can you learn.?

Nope... and then you throw a spaz.. and that's whats so funny.

Originally Posted by Norton

Trump certainly won't change the world order.

Watch it happen, and learn

Originally Posted by Cujo

Well I suppose it depends on your definition of fantastic, but interesting and entertaining certainly. Let's just hope the U.S. is intact at the end of it.

Hard to imagine things being any worse than what already exists in say Chicago, where they had 762 homicides in 2016.

It will be interesting to see how his team tackles really tough and controversial domestic issues like the trillion dollar failure of the DEA and the whole retarded Nixonian idea of treating drug addiction as a crime.

Originally Posted by koman

A new year greeting from the Donald.....


Donald J. TrumpVerified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love it.

Well that's hit the nail on the head.