Thread: Why so many?

This article paints a depressing picture , why are there so many Maori's in prison? I have read its the same in Australia with Aborigine's any idea's? Why are there so many Maori in New Zealand's prisons? - Al Jazeera English

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I have read its the same in Australia with Aborigine's any idea's?

I have read its the same in ??? with ????? any idea's?

Don't play well with others?
Different set of core values?

because they are poor

like the majority of their cellmates

NZD, Quite a few Aussies here in my area say EXACTLY the same about the Abbo's, but its not very politically correct to tell the truth these days as you run the risk of being howled down as a racist bigot , you racist bigot

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

They know full well the justice system is soft towards them so are not afraid of the court system as it's geared to appease the poor Maori.

That is complete and utter egregious codswallop I'm afraid.

Whilst there are outliers for both Maori and non-Maori the fact remains that there is an ethnic bias against Maori in the NZ criminal justice system.

555 True bro, but it's my nature to call a spade a spade.

Fuck PC. The only pc I care about is the one on my desk at home in Auckland. Miss playing battlefield 4!
11 hours direct flight and we'll be home. Will make a picture thread of our holiday. It's been amazing.

Ant ^ could be right in some instances. He's working in the justice system I believe (lawyer?) And I respect his more expert judgement. Not being sarcastic poot jing jing.

Let me edit my ppsts when i get home. Got a head cold and bugger all sleep last night.

Originally Posted by ENT

The fact is that NZ operates an apartheid system benefitting Maori who've now become a bunch of greedy racists demanding more and more off the gov. and white man. Not content with getting maxi handouts, they form the main criminal network in NZ and respect nothing expect the mighty dollar.

That's not a fact ENT it's an opinion. That you can't differentiate between the two...

ENT, There's 4 retired Aussies living in my area, they all say the same about Abbo's as NZD and you say about Maori's , maybe the old Aussies are racist bigots too eh .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

There's 4 retired Aussies living in my area, they all say the same about Abbo's as NZD and you say about Maori's , maybe the old Aussies are racist bigots too eh

The same Aussies that you drink with in the pub who agree with everything you say I expect?

Have a read of this

https://newzeelend.wordpress.com/killed-in-nz/

Who'd want to go camping in NZ without a gun and a dog?

^^^Like it's completely out of the question that 4 mates of this one issue loon could be bigots.

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Rising violent crime has made more than two-thirds of Christchurch women more fearful for their safety than they were five years ago, a new study of attitudes toward crime shows.

“With violent crime rates increasing in the city and several recent high-profile cases in which women were victimized, 71 per cent of women said they felt less safe than they did in 2003.

“The study, commissioned by The Press for its Eye on Crime series which starts today, paints a picture of people living in fear of crime that is perceived as growing in seriousness and volume. …

“Of female respondents, 38 per cent said they felt ‘a lot less safe’ and 33 per cent said they felt “a little less safe” than they did in 2003. The rest said they felt about the same as they did five years ago, while none said they felt safer. …

“‘There is a perception of people being frightened for their own personal safety. We’ve had women in their 50s, confident businesswomen, who would not go into town on their own at night. There is a real awareness of street violence out there.'”

“Herbert said there was ‘quite a marked increase’ in the severity of violence towards women.”

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KINELL, seems like itsa crime to even ask a legitimate question these days on TD

I wonder what time Doc Bob will clock in ?

Originally Posted by ENT

Have a read of this

https://newzeelend.wordpress.com/killed-in-nz/

A blog called 'Apartheid Fort New Zealand' that states that "[b]etween January 2000 and September 2015 about 3,400 foreigners were murdered or violently killed in New Zealand"?

That's interesting considering the official total for all murders during the same period was 313 which leaves approx. 3,087 foreigners alone being 'violently killed' by other means (irate sheep maybe?). Surely on a per capita basis it would make NZ one of the most deadliest nations on the planet.

Mind you I suppose that discrepancy can be explained by the warning that it also carries of the concerted disinformation campaign by the NZ Police. I wonder where they hide all the bodies.

Anyway...thanks but no. I've read enough already.

Originally Posted by ENT

Who'd want to go camping in NZ without a gun and a dog?

Or an unmarked scout car or two just to be safe, eh ENT.

It's a sad "fact" that Maori, are massively over-represented in prison/crime statistics.

I'm not saying that with glee, just saying how it is.

In my 'opinion,' and experiene, they are often afforded special privilages, simply because they are Maori.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

It's a sad "fact" that Maori, are massively over-represented in prison/crime statistics.

I'm not saying that with glee, just saying how it is.

In my 'opinion,' and experiene, they are often afforded special privilages, simply because they are Maori.

NZD , Did'nt you know you are not allowed an opinion if it clashes with a member of the TD dream teams

Originally Posted by piwanoi

NZD , Did'nt you know you are not allowed an opinion if it clashes with a member of the TD dream teams

Sorry to interrupt another of your attempts at martyrdom there for a minute, but that's not actually the case.

You're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts and it's the relationship between fact and opinion and your constant conflating of the two where you, inevitably, become unstuck.

Haha that's what forums are for, mate. Everyone can express their own opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has 'em.

I'm not above changing my opinion/mind, if faced with superior knowledge of more intelligent posters.
We should all learn from each other.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

Haha that's what forums are for, mate. Everyone can express their own opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has 'em.

That's true but peeweeannoy et. al. get horribly confused by it all.

For example in peewee's case he appears to be unable to distinguish between the opinions of his four Aussie mate and actual, verified and objective, facts.

That he even started this thread and posed a question that was addressed by the article in the OP itself tends to suggest he didn't even actually read it.

And ENT...well he's off on another of his Google spree tangents into babbling irrelevancy.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

Haha that's what forums are for, mate. Everyone can express their own opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has 'em.

I'm not above changing my opinion/mind, if faced with superior knowledge of more intelligent posters.
We should all learn from each other.

Yeah thats true NZD ,however I do not have an opinion ,I just asked a simple question knowing that there was quite a few Kiwi's such as yourself on these boards who have far better knowledge of the Country than I