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    I'm no expert bro. I probably have a much deeper understanding of Thailand, than I do of NZ.
    (Lived most of my adult life in Thailand actually).

    Feel more Thai than Kiwi...(cringeworthy, but true).

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    The weird thing about Maori's is that they are some of the most forthcoming, welcoming, likeable people in the world. Until they decide to kill you.

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    Land of Smiles?...

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    Well it's no different in London, the new fake Londoners that have invaded from black Africa are overcrowding Brit prisons.
    Of course it's the White mans fault, he doesn't do lynching no more.

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    Is there such a thing as "genetic racial advantage" ?

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    Maori in NZ have been given a hard time. Most of it is because of poverty etc.

    There are Maori on the gravy train, but can you blame them. Story handed down from father to son on how the pakeha robbed them....and it's all true. How else can they think?

    However, there are many fine, good Maori in this country.

    There is Bill Henry "Willie" Apiata VC



    There is Buck Shelford



    And many others

    There are more Maori in the NZ defence forces than any other race. Great soldiers.

    Maori can teach us all about looking after family. No old folk homes.No, fuck dad, you are too old to hang around with us....off to the smelly, stink of piss and poo place....Where we visit you once a month....


    Nobody in my family went to an old folks home. They were looked after by their family.

    There are things wrong with Maori culture, but there is also alot right.

    And BTW, Maori is plural...no need to add an 'S'

    This is a tribute to a fallen brother


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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    A blog called 'Apartheid Fort New Zealand' that states that "[b]etween January 2000 and September 2015 about 3,400 foreigners were murdered or violently killed in New Zealand"?

    That's interesting considering the official total for all murders during the same period was 313


    You're right about that 3400 figure, it's way off the mark.

    So's yours, at 313 murders between 2000 and 2015.

    The true rate is double your figures, around 600 < 700 murders in that time.

    http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...l-20141231.pdf

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    From Rommel in WW2

    If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it.

    Said about the Australians and New Zealanders after facing an Australian-New Zealand infantry division in North Africa

    If I'd had one division of Maori, I would have taken the canal in a week. If I'd had three, I'd have taken Baghdad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You're right about that 3400 figure, it's way off the mark.
    No shit.

    The whole blog is way off the mark. Ridiculously so.
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    So's yours, at 313 murders between 2000 and 2015.

    The true rate is double your figures, around 600 < 700 murders in that time.

    http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...l-20141231.pdf
    That's the same place I got my figures from: pg14; murders 2000 - 2015; and the total is?

    Check again ENT, you may even be more shit at math than me.

    And why are you saying 'around 600 - 700' when it gives specific figures (which incidentally are never more than double-digit for any given year... Maybe I have actually finally met someone whose math is more shit than mine).

    Edit: nope, I'm still the crappiest of the crappest, you're right... I had the wrong date range
    Last edited by AntRobertson; 03-06-2016 at 05:24 PM.

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    It's tragic what happened to the Maori and if I was one I like to think I'd be a rebellious kunt as well but all in all it's a credit to Maori how well they've adapted to being invaded and conquered.
    How would we all feel under the circumstances. Another race / culture forces itself into your country and relegates you to second class status.
    How will white britons feel in 200 years in the the Islamic republic of Britain?
    Achmed and Mohamed will be having a discussion about why there are so many whites in the Islamic prisons, wondering why they can't just accept the status quo and submit to Sharia law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You're right about that 3400 figure, it's way off the mark.
    No shit.

    The whole blog is way off the mark. Ridiculously so.
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    So's yours, at 313 murders between 2000 and 2015.

    The true rate is double your figures, around 600 < 700 murders in that time.

    http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...l-20141231.pdf
    That's the same place I got my figures from: pg14; murders 2000 - 2015; and the total is?

    Check again ENT, you may even be more shit at math than me.

    And why are you saying 'around 600 - 700' when it gives specific figures (which incidentally are never more than double-digit for any given year... Maybe I have actually finally met someone whose math is more shit than mine).
    Nah, yer maths and reading skills suck.

    Same page, only goes up to 2014, not 2015.
    2000 -2014 gives 742 murders in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Nah, yer maths and reading skills suck.
    ...
    Edit: nope, I'm still the crappiest of the crappest, you're right... I had the wrong date range
    Sorry, reading what?

    Anyways all rather beside the point because one thing is clear and that's that the blog you cut 'n pasted from is not a reliable source. About as reliable as peeweeannoy's four Aussie mates. Maybe even less so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It's tragic what happened to the Maori ...

    How would we all feel under the circumstances. Another race / culture forces itself into your country and relegates you to second class status.
    Tragic?

    Don't forget that Maori nicked the land off the previous owners and ate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Don't forget that Maori nicked the land off the previous owners and ate them.
    Yeah but nah because they didn't.

    That has conclusively been proven to be a historical inaccuracy. It's simply not true.

    Gawd only knows why you continue to repeat it as a truism but I'd wager it's related to your propensity to Google and cut 'n paste from dodgy sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It's tragic what happened to the Maori ...

    How would we all feel under the circumstances. Another race / culture forces itself into your country and relegates you to second class status.
    Tragic?

    Don't forget that Maori nicked the land off the previous owners and ate them.
    From who?

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    Don't get him started... He still believes that whole Moriori as a seperate and distinct race/origin from Maori bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Don't forget that Maori nicked the land off the previous owners and ate them.
    Yeah but nah because they didn't.

    That has conclusively been proven to be a historical inaccuracy. It's simply not true
    Oh, really? Since when and by whom?

    Refs. and/or links please.

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    We've been through all this before.

    There's no shame in being wrong about something, ENT. I was totally incorrect in my calculations earlier. I recognized and acknowledged it.

    However when you're wrong and objective fact shows that you're wrong yet you continue to repeat the same thing then that's just...dumb.

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    Even if it were true so what?
    Wouldn't make the destruction of the Maori life and culture any less tragic.
    Same as the American indians.
    They should have been much less tolerant of illegal immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenR View Post
    So much for that.

    A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.
    Yeah surprising what happens on TD when all one does is ask a question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    It's tragic what happened to the Maori ...

    How would we all feel under the circumstances. Another race / culture forces itself into your country and relegates you to second class status.
    Tragic?

    Don't forget that Maori nicked the land off the previous owners and ate them.
    From who?
    From Te Maori, the original tangata whenua as described in the Treaty of Waitangi, the ones Toi the Woodeater directed to "kill all the men and enslave all the women and children."

    The people that Tamatea said were so numerous they were like ants on the ground.

    The Patupaiarehe and Turehu.

    The Moriori and Waitaha.

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    Like I said...dumb.

    Change your Google search terms ENT, find some better sources. And by better I mean ones that contain actual facts and don't just reinforce your preconceived and incorrect notions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    We've been through all this before.

    There's no shame in being wrong about something, ENT. I was totally incorrect in my calculations earlier. I recognized and acknowledged it.

    However when you're wrong and objective fact shows that you're wrong yet you continue to repeat the same thing then that's just...dumb.
    Big deal. Now what objective "fact" are you disputing now?

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    Huh, and you say my reading skills 'suck'. Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Same as the American indians. They should have been much less tolerant of illegal immigrants.
    Or more tolerant of smallpox...

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