Thread: Concern at CERN as weasel shuts down Large Hadron Collider

Originally Posted by hazz

Originally Posted by blue

if you push any branch of science to the extreme , other good things tend to follow , eg a lot came out of the moon expeditions.

Yeah get that - however I genuinely have no idea, simply put, what it is all about, what they are doing, why they are doing it, what they hope to achieve (their primary focus if you will) . Now as Hazz has been their twice, therefore we can assume he knows the answers to those simple questions. This isn't a trick. I really do not know and in the absence of not knowing I would think that using that money to do something like putting cannabis through robust clinical trials would be a lot better because we already have a good idea about the health benefits of it, and just need the stupid bit of paper to prove it.

See - what we think, what we are doing to prove, disprove it... that kind of thing. Cern spending billions, but yet no one knows what on. Does Hazz even know?

Weasel indeed.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

See - what we think, what we are doing to prove, disprove it... that kind of thing. Cern spending billions, but yet no one knows what on. Does Hazz even know?

Weasel indeed.

YOU don't know what they spend it on, but that's because you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by pseudolus

See - what we think, what we are doing to prove, disprove it... that kind of thing. Cern spending billions, but yet no one knows what on. Does Hazz even know?

Weasel indeed.

YOU don't know what they spend it on, but that's because you're an idiot.

Yes I must be an idiot. Clearly so because I admit I do not know what they are doing.. I bow to you and Hazz who claim they do know. Actually, you do not claim you know, your give the impression that you know hoping to be seen to be clever. However, unless you say you know, and then exlpain what it is all about, we will have no choice but to understand that you especially harrymoron, and hazz, do not know at all what it is all about.

So put up or shut up dickhead. Explain what it is about - answer the questions.... if you can.

What are they trying to achieve and why should I give a shit about it? Why should people starve for it? Why should peoples taxes go up for it, or have vital service cut for it?

CERN put the cern in concern?

BTW is the movie any good?

Originally Posted by hazz

psudo, you see the thing is...

Ive already given a single example of how the technologies and ideas that cern came up with to solve their own human communication issues, that has gone on to create a massive industry that has profoundly changed the way people around the world work together. In terms of return on investment this alone justifies every penny spent on the place.....

your response was initially a rather childish ' al gore invented the internet' then 'b b b but it was only a by product of cerns activities'...

which does simply demonstrate your problem, you actively don't want to understand or your really that stupid. cern did not invent the internet, its a by product of DARPA's weapons programs. what cern came up with was html and the tooling to make practical use of it.

But then this is all beyond you because its based on reality rather than the instinctive truth... which is why you would rather believe they are making anti hydrogen bombs.... because a hollywood film said so. When all someome wants to believe in is magic... there is no point discussing resility with them.

but then winding people up with your faux stupidity is not that different to when you were winding people up with your jimmy savile tracksuit.

Hazz

Lets try this again. I know that the internet evolved from Cern. I already knew that. Yes, my flippant remark about Al Gore might have pissed you off, but it was a childish reaction to your belief that I did not know where the internet evolved and Cerns part in that. I apologize.

However, you seem to be saying that CERN is a road trip to nowhere specifically, and the hope is that along the way, they pick up some useful stuff. Is this it? I was lead to believe that they had a specific destination in mind and they were working towards that, a primary goal as it were. What is that, why is it important, why should my money be spent on it? Relatively simple. I could ask the same of the climate scam con artists as well, and the difference is that they can clearly tell me for every experiment the run what they are trying to do or find out. I might believe it is a pile of bullshit, but that does not detract from them actually being able to tell me.

So, what is the primary goal of Cern. What are they trying to achieve / prove / find out? How would this impact mankind in a positive way and is it worth the money.

I don't know how to phrase this any more simply.

Concern at CERN as weasel shuts down Large Hadron Collider

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

Lets try this again. I know that the internet evolved from Cern. I already knew that. Yes,

ah yes, the age of post truth. evidence and reality mean nothing... truth is what ever you want it to be.

the internet did not evolve from cern... it evolved from DARPA. Something that is easily verified... but to you this does not matter because you think it was cern.... ero it must be cern.

Originally Posted by hazz

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Lets try this again. I know that the internet evolved from Cern. I already knew that. Yes,

ah yes, the age of post truth. evidence and reality mean nothing... truth is what ever you want it to be.

the internet did not evolve from cern... it evolved from DARPA. Something that is easily verified... but to you this does not matter because you think it was cern.... ero it must be cern.

So are you saying that CERN's primary goal was doing something that allowed the internet to be brought to the mass market? If so, time to pack it in... it's here.

Because if not, you seem to be evading a very simple set of questions which apparently I am stupid because I do not know, thus you are claiming intelligence because you do know. So what is the big secret?

What is the primary goal of Cern. What are they trying to achieve / prove / find out? How would this impact mankind in a positive way and is it worth the money.

Psudo, cern put a lot of effort in explaining what they do, producing materials for both children, non-technical and technical adults. What they dont to is produce materials for the illiterate blind and the post truthers who cannot tell the difference between reality and a hollywood film.

That you cannot grasp what I had said about cern in answering your questions and what cern says about itself... says nothing about my own intelligence... but it speaks volumes about you.

About CERN | CERN

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So CERN says they invested the internet. Hazz says they did not. Who knows? Might just be he wants to claim it for MURICA or something.

o'dear this post-truth lark your on is rather crippling. Internet is to the world wide web what roads are to a car.

Cern developed HTML and the tooling around it... which ultimately became the world wide web.

DARPA developed many of the technologies.... which ultimately came together to create the internet.

Clearly that education you had was wasted on you.... if you're unable to find this out for yourself... perhaps it would have been money better spent feeding some starving child.

Originally Posted by hazz

DARPA developed many of the technologies.... which ultimately came together to create the internet.

Thanks for explaining that.

Now try and answer the questions I pose because, or the 6th time in asking, you seem not to be able to. Fear not though, Hazz, because you are not alone. Harry doesn't know either, and he likes people to think he knows everything.

So finally, for the last time, what's it all about? Is it really just trying to prove the Big Bang is real? Push comes to shove, at the end of the day, when the dealing's done, is that it?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by hazz

DARPA developed many of the technologies.... which ultimately came together to create the internet.

Thanks for explaining that.

Now try and answer the questions I pose because, or the 6th time in asking, you seem not to be able to. Fear not though, Hazz, because you are not alone. Harry doesn't know either, and he likes people to think he knows everything.

So finally, for the last time, what's it all about? Is it really just trying to prove the Big Bang is real? Push comes to shove, at the end of the day, when the dealing's done, is that it?

You're such an idiot.

First you ask:

Also, lets ask you again. go and tell an old poor person that they need to starve in one of the top richest countries in the world so we can part fund CERn, and then tell them what benefit Cern will be to them, you or me.

And when you get an answer you come up with shit like "What's it all about?".

Give it up son.

You're too stupid.

Leave the complex subjects to that adults.

I never got an answer. The answer I got, which clearly you are far to stupid to understand was akin to this.

"Heh, where did you go on holiday last year"

"Well on the way we stopped at a service station and had a lovely coffee"

"Thats great. But where did you go on Holiday?"

"I told you, we got a coffee from a service station on the way. Are you stupid?"

"Maybe, because I am asking a simple question, and you keep talking about coffee from a service station.... A SIDE EVENT THAT IS NOT THE AIM OF A HOLIDAY BUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AS A SIDE RESULT OF GOING ON HOLIDAY. So, where did you go on Holiday last year?"

"we saw this. It's really neat, you punch it and it tells you how hard you hit"

"Well that's fucking great but where did you go on holiday?"

"FFS are you thick? I told you we got a coffee on the way. It was coffee .What don't you understand"

.... and so on.

Face it harry, you don't know. Hazz doesn't know. No fucker knows. There are so many know all twats like you on here, but they seem to be errily quiet in a thread where I am actually saying "I Don't Know - help me - tell me" which would usually see all the spactic comments. But no - they are not here, hovering around hoping that Hazz knows after which they can pile in and call me a cu nt.

Happy to be called a cu nt - no problem about that, but only if you or Hazz tells me what are they trying to achieve and why should I give a shit about it? Why should people starve for it? Why should peoples taxes go up for it, or have vital service cut for it?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Thanks for explaining that.

It was explained to you 3 times... nice to see that its finally sunk in despite being something that was both easy to understand and find out.

As for the rest of your questions, Ive already given you answers as have you with your cut and pastes. That you are unable to understand is a deficiency in yourself, that I cannot really help you with. you need to learn comprehension and that hollywood films are well..... fiction.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"I Don't Know - help me - tell me"

come on pull the other one your one of the 5 biggest time waisting fuckwits, who could recognise the truth if their lives depended upon it.

Originally Posted by hazz

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Thanks for explaining that.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"I Don't Know - help me - tell me"

Funny, this machine that was invented by DARPA and something or other by CERN, it is so advanced now that it is projecting your personality instead of the dribble you are writing. Weird. DARPA GOOGLE will be most impressed.

I have reread this thread nearly 10 times now. Top to bottom. Before each reply I make, I reread it, because I am sure I am missing a post from you where you get to the nub of what CERN is all about.

You keep saying you already have, but you have not.

Despite the dross and ad homenin posts you have written, as well as seemingly being a permanent fixture in your signature, it saddens me that yet again, you ignore the simply question I have put forward. I'm beginning to feel like paxman speaking to michael howard.

A bystander might assume that you either have no clue at all either, or more likely, you come to the same conclusion as I do about what they are actually doing but if you were to admit that, you might then be invited into a conversation about Why that is important compared to the needs of other individuals who lack because of CERNS existence. As a obvious science groupie / snob, you seem to think that I do not deserve to know? Is that it? I can not ever recall being asked if my tax money should be blown on this, especially as these scientists are so flaky that they can not even WEASEL proof the bloody thing.

Anyway, seeing as you have no answers, I can assume that you are dedicated to accepting irrational explanations to every government and scientific expenditure and program, and stupidly defending them against the onslaught of decency, humanity, and a fundamental right to know how tax payers money is spent.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I have reread this thread nearly 10 times now.

well you see psudo you need to brush up on your comprehension skills, you see I pointed out you had already answered your own question, which is why it is unnecessary for me to answer it.

you see during your 10 re-reads, you missed this:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

At CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, physicists and engineers are probing the fundamental structure of the universe. They use the world's largest and most complex scientific instruments to study the basic constituents of matter – the fundamental particles. The particles are made to collide together at close to the speed of light. The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature.
The instruments used at CERN are purpose-built particle accelerators and detectors. Accelerators boost beams of particles to high energies before the beams are made to collide with each other or with stationary targets. Detectors observe and record the results of these collisions.

Founded in 1954, the CERN laboratory sits astride the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva. It was one of Europe's first joint ventures and now has 21 member states.
You can find more information about how CERN is governed and organised here.

does rather suggest that my cat learns faster than you do. Its a rather nice single page paragraph about what cern's all about. Should you ever learn to read and comprehend, you can go back to the web site you got this from and discover lots of wonderful things about reality.... which is much better than the special effects in hollywood films.

Originally Posted by hazz

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I have reread this thread nearly 10 times now.

well you see psudo you need to brush up on your comprehension skills, you see I pointed out you had already answered your own question, which is why it is unnecessary for me to answer it.

you see during your 10 re-reads, you missed this:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

At CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, physicists and engineers are probing the fundamental structure of the universe. They use the world's largest and most complex scientific instruments to study the basic constituents of matter – the fundamental particles. The particles are made to collide together at close to the speed of light. The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature.
The instruments used at CERN are purpose-built particle accelerators and detectors. Accelerators boost beams of particles to high energies before the beams are made to collide with each other or with stationary targets. Detectors observe and record the results of these collisions.

Founded in 1954, the CERN laboratory sits astride the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva. It was one of Europe's first joint ventures and now has 21 member states.
You can find more information about how CERN is governed and organised here.

does rather suggest that my cat learns faster than you do. Its a rather nice single page paragraph about what cern's all about. Should you ever learn to read and comprehend, you can go back to the web site you got this from and discover lots of wonderful things about reality.... which is much better than the special effects in hollywood films.

I didn't miss that. Any why do you keep bleating on about hollywood films for? I've not watched any hollywood film for ages.

So you are really buying this?

"The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature."

You think this is a good way to spend money do you? They are looking for clues, they say. You see, I read that a few years ago and thought "gee, that's a good idea"

Here's the plan then. I want to get some clues and some insight into the fundamental laws of nature. Now to do this, I would like to see how these same experiments work under the effects of different gravity levels, so I want 50 trillion to build a couple of colliders at various heights off of the ground. Moving up and down actually. Why not? Science is science, and we might find something along the way. Also, why are the Chinese building their own? they needing an insight as well? Looking for some clues?

For an extra billion I will make it weasel proof. Hell, that could be the side discovery, Collider Weasel Proofing.

So anyway, as I surmised, it a huge waste of money, engineered by some whack job scientists, egged on by science snobs, and paid for by every other fucker. Very low EQ, the average scientist has. Almost sociopathic in nature.

You know those saudi clerics who say that the earth is fixed and the sun goes round it... because reality is whatever they would like it to be and fuck evidence.

well take the god out of them.... what do we get? you and the other conspiracy nuts...

All the answers to your questions are in this thread, but the answers don't fit the truth you want to be real.... so you cannot see or comprehend them. Your a kind of the feet don't fit the shoe's chap.

fortunately for me I do not live in your imaginary world and whilst your there I cannot really give you answers based on your delusions.... not can anyone else.

Personally I'm fascinated by quantum mechanics but reading about it for too long hurts my brain.
Nature at that level behaves quite differently to what we are used to.
If they can get to the bottom of the quantum leap puzzle imagine the possibilities.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intr...ntum_mechanics

Something more and some information about collider experiments.
Forbes Welcome