Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

So they were Jordanian prior to the 1967 conflict ?

Thats what psuedo claimed innit

Originally Posted by pseudolus

When Jordan did, the people in the West Bank were given the same rights as Jordanians

No it wasn't you idiot. If I give the same rights to my dog as I do to a cat, does that make the dog a cat?

No. How many more times will you insist on demonstrating your idiocy? It's ok - we get it - you are a rancid ignorant racist. No need to gild the lily.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

In the same way that Palestinians are not, and never will be israeli, they were not jordanian.

This is just the same old tired lame revisionist israel lobby bullshit to say otherwise.

So if they reverted back to being Palestinians in 1967 , just WHO was they BEFORE they reverted back ?

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

So Psue...the West Bankers are Jordanian ?

Definitely not- but quite a few Jordanians are ethnically Palestinian.

West Bankers were given Jordanian citizenship after Jordan annexed the West Bank. All residents except Jews were accorded the same rights as a Jordanian citizen. West Bankers voted for their representitives in Jordan's Parliament.
This arrangement lasted approx 19 years until the 1967 conflict.

Sadly those facts are remiss from your dialogue. Why

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

So they were Jordanian prior to the 1967 conflict ?

Thats what psuedo claimed innit

Originally Posted by pseudolus

When Jordan did, the people in the West Bank were given the same rights as Jordanians

No it wasn't you idiot. If I give the same rights to my dog as I do to a cat, does that make the dog a cat?

No. How many more times will you insist on demonstrating your idiocy? It's ok - we get it - you are a rancid ignorant racist. No need to gild the lily.

What a sad angry old man.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

So Psue...the West Bankers are Jordanian ?

Definitely not- but quite a few Jordanians are ethnically Palestinian.

West Bankers were given Jordanian citizenship after Jordan annexed the West Bank. All residents except Jews were accorded the same rights as a Jordanian citizen. West Bankers voted for their representitives in Jordan's Parliament.
This arrangement lasted approx 19 years until the 1967 conflict.

Sadly those facts are remiss from your dialogue. Why

No, you are deliberately trying to revise the historical facts using the sad old fraud From Time Immemorial bullshit which has been completely discredited.

West Bankers?

No. Palestinians. SAying anything other than Palestinian is revisionism.

You are deliberately obfuscating the difference between citizenship and nationality. Being given citizenship, as is a requisite of annexation, hence israel NEVER doing this for the Palestinians in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza, has no effect on someone nationality. My wife is Thai. If she gets UK citizenship, she will still be a Thai National with UK citizenship.

Article 3 of the 1954 Jordanian Law re: Nationality

Understanding of course there was vast discrimanation against West Bankers by the East Bankers of Jordan.

I didn't write the rules I only did a bit of research . If this so offends you I'll leave you to your own dialogue with yourself.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

In the same way that Palestinians are not, and never will be israeli, they were not jordanian.

This is just the same old tired lame revisionist israel lobby bullshit to say otherwise.

So if they reverted back to being Palestinians in 1967 , just WHO was they BEFORE they reverted back ?

Palestinians in Jordan, with equal rights to Jordanians.

Would you prefer a dot to dot to help you?

No you said quite plainly they REVERTED BACK to being Palestinian in 1967, my question is from WHO did they revert back from if they was,nt Palastinians before ? now take it easy before you reply and think of your blood pressure , you painted yourself into a corner by writing that silly statement not me

Originally Posted by Allotafargina

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

So they were Jordanian prior to the 1967 conflict ?

Thats what psuedo claimed innit

Originally Posted by pseudolus

When Jordan did, the people in the West Bank were given the same rights as Jordanians

No it wasn't you idiot. If I give the same rights to my dog as I do to a cat, does that make the dog a cat?

No. How many more times will you insist on demonstrating your idiocy? It's ok - we get it - you are a rancid ignorant racist. No need to gild the lily.

What a sad angry old man.

You've noticed too eh Alf

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Article 3 of the 1954 Jordanian Law re: Nationality

Understanding of course there was vast discrimanation against West Bankers by the East Bankers of Jordan.

I didn't write the rules I only did a bit of research . If this so offends you I'll leave you to your own dialogue with yourself.

Doesn't offend me and your research, as usual, is flawed. The jordanians can write anything they like on a piece of paper and call it a law, but it does not have any bearing on the right of individuals to associate with their nationality.

Nationality is not to be confused with citizenship.

I can tell your agenda by your continued use of West Bankers rather than Palestinians.

Citizenship simply means having full political rights. Nationality is a whole different ball game and ultimately is decided by the individual.

You keep pumping out the hasbara if you like. Up to you .

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Just ran a search CHILD SUICIDE BOMBERS

How fascinating for you- but the last Palestinian suicide bombing was in 2008, on an IDF border post in the Gaza strip. The three suicide bombers successfully killed themselves, no Israeli's were killed but 13 were injured (of whom 8 went to hospital). According to the IDF- "13 Israeli soldiers were wounded, three moderately and the rest lightly", the military said. The bombers were adults.

Well, maybe suicide bombing is not the fashion so much anymore. Most likely its harder for them to get the material to blow themselves up, but the intends are still there and even more desperate.
Maybe "suicide kitchen knife" is the better term now

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

kitchen knife"

IDF seems to have bought their supply of chuck down kitchen knives wholesale - it is usually the same knife shown in the pictures

Just sayin', Adolf.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

a horde of backward religious nutters

You could just as easily be talking about Israeli's- and, as always it seems, religious nutters on both sides of the equation are a large part of the problem. But most Palestians, like most Israeli's, are not religious nutters. Unsurprisingly, you find a higher percentage of Pali nutters in the Gaza ghetto, and a higher percentage of Israeli nutters in the illegal settlements.

It is not them who will negotiate any peace deal- it is those in the middle, the 'moderates' if you like. The nutters just feed off each other- Hamas! Settler violence! God gave this land to us! Allah Akbar!

I'll go even further- Jerusalem is called the capital of both states, but it is much more the sort of people to be found inhabiting Tel Aviv and Ramallah that will be the basis of justice and peace. If the loonies quit hijacking the dialogue.

There are more loonies and nutters than meets the eye in that area
Let me put it into perspective.



And if you give every Pali a house a goat and 3 wifes...Israel will never have peace.
And if you erase Israel from this map...there will never be Peace.

Palestinian Land, not Arab Land.

Just came to think of it. Is there not killings, bombings, torture going on in EVERY country below ?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Palestinian Land, not Arab Land.

Holy Land. Every stupid backward muslim want to claim it.

At the center of that web are the spiders of israel and saud, which are more or less 100% responsible for all the acts the hermanazi pretends to care about when it suits his agenda.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Just came to think of it. Is there not killings, bombings, torture going on in EVERY country below ?

Before Pseudo beats me to it
....and its all the fault of Shlomo Israel

Originally Posted by pseudolus

At the center of that web are the spiders of israel and saud, which are more or less 100% responsible for all the acts the hermanazi pretends to care about when it suits his agenda.

If you want to bomb the House of Saud incl. Mecca, be my guest.

I'll even help you and set the timer.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by pseudolus

At the center of that web are the spiders of israel and saud, which are more or less 100% responsible for all the acts the hermanazi pretends to care about when it suits his agenda.

If you want to bomb the House of Saud incl. Mecca, be my guest.

I'll even help you and set the timer.

I don't advocate bombing anyone. That is the preserve of war mongering idiots.

However, even if I did, it would never happen because the house of saud is protected by the USA, who in turn has it's foreign policy set by the zionists and israel lobby, who by fiat are protecting the house of saud. israel does this because the house of saud are vital in creating the Islam is Evil myth that israel uses and relies upon to continue to commit their atrocities.

You should love the house of saud - they are vital to israel.

Originally Posted by sabang

What you categorically stated (sic) "its [suicide bombing] an 100% Muslim one" is as wrong as your English grammar- and that's really saying something.

Not only is suicide bombing not a 100% Muslim trait, but in fact the most prolific suicide bombers from 1980-2003 were the Tamil Tigers. Man up and stop being a weasel piwi- you were emphatically Wrong. You generally are.

Not saying your wrong but when suicide bombing is in the H E A D L I N E S muslims or islam is the answer.
I think we can give credit to this great achievement to all muslims blowing themselves up all over this world.
I can't see why you want to take away this great accompishment from them ?

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by sabang

What you categorically stated (sic) "its [suicide bombing] an 100% Muslim one" is as wrong as your English grammar- and that's really saying something.

Not only is suicide bombing not a 100% Muslim trait, but in fact the most prolific suicide bombers from 1980-2003 were the Tamil Tigers. Man up and stop being a weasel piwi- you were emphatically Wrong. You generally are.

Not saying your wrong but when suicide bombing is in the H E A D L I N E S muslims or islam is the answer.
I think we can give credit to this great achievement to all muslims blowing themselves up all over this world.
I can't see why you want to take away this great accompishment from them ?

The one person who has investigated EVERY SINGLE suicide bombing since the 1908's has shown and proven that they are secular, and it is being used as a means of resistance against foreign occupation whether that be in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, you name it.

The old canard you are once again trying to sow has been fully discredited and proven to be false.


Next?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^^ Whooosh

and he changes the conversation again.

Here you go piwi



So next?

Mad Mullah from Manchester = piwaCILE

Tamil Tiger Children Soldiers = Over

Palestinian/Muslim Children Soldiers = still in training (and always be)

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The one person who has investigated EVERY SINGLE suicide bombing since the 1908's has shown and proven that they are secular, and it is being used as a means of resistance against foreign occupation whether that be in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, you name it.

The old canard you are once again trying to sow has been fully discredited and proven to be false.

Next?

Islamic State Shifts Tactics, From War-Fighting to Suicide Bombing
As foes cut into group’s pseudo-state, its militants turn more to attacks on soft targets Updated May 13, 2016 10:37 p.m.

Listen Numbbrain I'll give you a hint: Google-New-Suicide Bombings

Resistance !Blowing up women and children ?
You are a coward/ weasel just like your muslim friends. Read the Qaran its a step by step introduction on how to fight/kill other people.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The one person who has investigated EVERY SINGLE suicide bombing since the 1908's has shown and proven that they are secular, and it is being used as a means of resistance against foreign occupation whether that be in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, you name it.

The old canard you are once again trying to sow has been fully discredited and proven to be false.

Next?

Islamic State Shifts Tactics, From War-Fighting to Suicide Bombing
As foes cut into group’s pseudo-state, its militants turn more to attacks on soft targets Updated May 13, 2016 10:37 p.m.

Listen Numbbrain I'll give you a hint: Google-New-Suicide Bombings

Resistance !Blowing up women and children ?
You are a coward/ weasel just like your muslim friends. Read the Qaran its a step by step introduction on how to fight/kill other people.

Sorry, but what are you wittering on about. What part of ALL do you not uderstand?

I have read the Quran, and it is nothing of the sort. You are relying on out of context, mistranslated, fabrication as distributed by the israel lobby outfits such as MEMRI and CAMERA etc.

Blowing up women and children is protection for israel? This is why they do it, is it?