Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

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Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ A barefaced lie and you know it. The 'west bank' has been continuously occupied for many thousand years.

Why bother with this Hasbara bullshit- everyone knows it is a lie? If Israel wants to keep the place (which it obviously does) it needs to form a combined state, and grant citizenship to the people there.

Again- name another country where the indigenous people do not enjoy basic human rights and citizenship in their own land?

If the West Bank is so bad for the Arabs under Israeli occupation ,why is'nt there hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers leaving and flooding into Europe like they are from the other Islamic dominated shitholes? and if its so bad under Israeli occupation WTF would the ragheads want to go back ?.

There is, you fucking dick.

One in three refugees world wide is Palestinian. There are about 6.5 million Palestinian refugees worldwide. More than 3.8 million Palestinian refugees and their descendents displaced in 1948 are registered for humanitarian assistance with the United Nations. Seeing as you are SO clueless, let me let you into a secret.The RIGHT OF RETURN is the sticking point for Bibi and his murderous pals. They don't mind letting the arabs have 5% of the land, under their occupation and control, and peace, but they will not allow the people deposed from their lands, the palestinian refugees to return. Why? Because the zionist scum would never win an election ever again no matter how they tried to fix it.

wait for it...

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah but yeah but yeah but....

Bollox read my post again, how many Arabs are fleeing the Israeli Dominated West Bank right now at this moment in time like they are in the other Islamic dominated shitholes ? should be easy to prove .

[QUOTE=piwanoi;3253415]

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ A barefaced lie and you know it. The 'west bank' has been continuously occupied for many thousand years.

Why bother with this Hasbara bullshit- everyone knows it is a lie? If Israel wants to keep the place (which it obviously does) it needs to form a combined state, and grant citizenship to the people there.

Again- name another country where the indigenous people do not enjoy basic human rights and citizenship in their own land?

If the West Bank is so bad for the Arabs under Israeli occupation ,why is'nt there hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers leaving and flooding into Europe like they are from the other Islamic dominated shitholes? and if its so bad under Israeli occupation WTF would the ragheads want to go back ?.

There is, you fucking dick.

One in three refugees world wide is Palestinian. There are about 6.5 million Palestinian refugees worldwide. More than 3.8 million Palestinian refugees and their descendents displaced in 1948 are registered for humanitarian assistance with the United Nations. Seeing as you are SO clueless, let me let you into a secret.The RIGHT OF RETURN is the sticking point for Bibi and his murderous pals. They don't mind letting the arabs have 5% of the land, under their occupation and control, and peace, but they will not allow the people deposed from their lands, the palestinian refugees to return. Why? Because the zionist scum would never win an election ever again no matter how they tried to fix it.

wait for it...

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah but yeah but yeah but....

Bollox read my post again, how many Arabs are fleeing the Israeli Dominated West Bank right now at this moment in time like they are in the other Islamic dominated shitholes ? should be easy to prove .

Piwi petal, they are leaving, you imbecile. However, as the israeli bastards are cowards and only like shooting fish in barrels, there are 99 fixed check points to exit the west bank (collective punishment and only applies to arabs), 172 mobile check points, about 120 internal checkpoints within the west bank, and NO ONE is allowed through without a permit to do so, and that permit does not guarantee the ability to pass as people are then categorized and allowed to pass through the check point based upon their sex and age.

the West Bank is also frequently Closed, so that on the whim of an israeli, the whole place is locked down with no one passing regardless of having a permit or not.

If people can actually get out, they do indeed try to escape, hence the massive amount of refugees around the world who are Palestinian. They bloody well can not get out though. Your levels of ignorance know no bounds, does it.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

If its so bad in the West Bank under Israeli Occupation why oh why do the ragheads want to return there so desperately ? And nice of you to admit that if they did come back they would have a vote !!

I suggest you have a look at Right to Return - of course they want to return to their homeland you daft ponce. Return to Palestine but not a the concentration camps of Gaza or the west bank

FFS - Check points - papers... you still do not get it do you? The israelis do to the Palestinians exactly what the Nazis did to the jews. See no link here?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

you make it appear as if all the Arabs in the West bank are under lock and key

they are you stupid old fool.

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unisp...f?OpenDocument

Thousands protest Israeli restrictions in Palestinian marathon | The Times of Israel

Whats more, to ensure that they leave, the kind loving israel fascists bull doze their homes on a daily basis.

It is widely documented - go and have a bloody look if you can pull your snout away from the zionist hate filled rags for more than 5 bloody seconds.

Nice try Sunshine, but sorry no cigar , in my post 150 I plainly said if the West bank is such a bad place why is'nt there thousands of Asylum seeker's leaving , in your post 152 you replied that there was , then you change your tune and say the Palestinians are virtually under lock and key , FFS make up your mind will you

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Nice try Sunshine, but sorry no cigar , in my post 150 I plainly said if the West bank is such a bad place why is'nt there thousands of Asylum seeker's leaving , in your post 152 you replied that there was , then you change your tune and say the Palestinians are virtually under lock and key , FFS make up your mind will you

The ones who can leave, do. Most can not because they are locked in like jews in a concentration camp

Said it again - will is sink in this time? No fucking chance.


Now fuck off and go and shout at some pictures of muslims you daft old cuunt



Who the FUCK let piwi out of soft jail?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Nice try Sunshine, but sorry no cigar , in my post 150 I plainly said if the West bank is such a bad place why is'nt there thousands of Asylum seeker's leaving , in your post 152 you replied that there was , then you change your tune and say the Palestinians are virtually under lock and key , FFS make up your mind will you

The ones who can leave, do. Most can not because they are locked in like jews in a concentration camp

Said it again - will is sink in this time? No fucking chance.


No fuck off and go and shout at some pictures of muslims you daft old cuunt

You plainly said in your post 152 that the Palestinians were leaving The West bank as Asylum seekers ,and now you 've changed tack saying they are under lock and key , now take it easy and think of your blood pressure

Why do I Bother.

You never said why aren't they leaving the westbank, you said in referring to arabs Palestinians, why aren't there lloads of them as refugees, or as you prefer "fucking mooooslim immigrants". I said that there are millions of them. You then clarified that you meant from the west bank. I then informed you that they are fucking locked down there like sheep in an abattoir, but would escape if they could.

Now I know you are a bit mentally retarded, but surely even a stupid northern monkey like you can pick this up.

Piwanoi- what a ferkin nasty, idiotic, racist old bigot. Not even worth addressing, except in the third person with utter and total contempt. Human scum.

Originally Posted by sabang

Piwanoi- what a ferkin nasty, idiotic, racist old bigot. Not even worth addressing, except in the third person with utter and total contempt. Human scum.

He does rather fit in nicely with Bibi and his supports though, so he deserve a mark for consistency

Originally Posted by sabang

Piwanoi- what a ferkin nasty, idiotic, racist old bigot. Not even worth addressing, except in the third person with utter and total contempt. Human scum.

He has a dogged and unrelenting heart.

But he is nonetheless an idiot.

he doesn't have a heart. He is a greyhound man, so one of those "knock them on the head" blokes after a few years racing.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Let me make it easier for you to comprehend, ENT.

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel,

The highlighted part = rubbish/nonsense/fiction.

I'll make it easier for you,.... you can read the pictures instead of trying to read.

So go look at the 1947 map of the UNO proposed state of Israel.

You can look at pictures if you want, ENT, but it won't turn your fiction into fact.

The link I gave did not infact refer to the UNO partition of Palestine

This one does.

"The land allocated to the Arab State in the final plan included about 43% of Mandatory Palestine[51][unreliable source?] and consisted of all of the highlands, except for Jerusalem, plus one-third of the coastline. The highlands contain the major aquifers of Palestine, which supplied water to the coastal cities of central Palestine, including Tel Aviv.[52][unreliable source?]

The Jewish State was to receive 56% of Mandatory Palestine, a slightly larger area to accommodate the increasing numbers of Jews who would immigrate there.[51][unreliable source?][53] The Jewish State included three fertile lowland plains – the Sharon on the coast, the Jezreel Valley and the upper Jordan Valley. The bulk of the proposed Jewish State's territory, however, consisted of the Negev Desert.[49] The desert was not suitable for agriculture, nor for urban development at that time. The Jewish State would also be given sole access to the Red Sea."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition



Bear in mind that the term "Mandatory Palestine" here refers only 23% of the original Mandatory Palestine as described by the League of Nations, as 77% of the land was reserved by Britain to fulfill its 1915 promise to the Sherif of Mecca, as;

"The British Mandate for Palestine, shortly Mandate for Palestine, or the Palestine Mandate was a League of Nations mandate for the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition





Sanjaks of Nablus and Acre and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem





Vilayets of Syria and of Beirut and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem






British Mandated Palestine






UNO demarcation of Palestine 1947 showing 56% of remaining Mandated Palestine land as Israel, or 12.88% of the original territory of British Mandated Palestine

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Let me make it easier for you to comprehend, ENT.

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel,

The highlighted part = rubbish/nonsense/fiction.

I'll make it easier for you,.... you can read the pictures instead of trying to read.

So go look at the 1947 map of the UNO proposed state of Israel.

You can look at pictures if you want, ENT, but it won't turn your fiction into fact.

The link I gave did not infact refer to the UNO partition of Palestine

This one does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition

ENT, you are a muppet. Once again you post stuff you do not understand and copy from a page you have either not read fully or did not understand.

Try again, son.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by ENT

the Arab State

"Arab state" ? I don't know what you're on about.
Give the context/quote.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

The link I gave did not infact refer to the UNO partition of Palestine

This one does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition

Once again you post stuff you do not understand and copy from a page you have either not read fully or did not understand.

Is that so? Since you know so much, what was the UNO demarcation of Palestine?

It's in the article you quoted, right above my post. I mean, c'mon- "the Arab state"? Nice way for a puff piece to instantly destroy any vestige of it's own purported credibility. Hasbara.

Maybe you should widen your sources, and probably learn some things in the process?

I'm not anti-Israel you know- I am referring to the illegal and utterly immoral occupation of Palestine, and the treatment of the Palestinians. But I wish for Israel to survive, and on balance am in favor of the one (combined) state solution.

Originally Posted by sabang

Sorry 'bout those I left out

Others of note. UK, Belgium, Germany, France and Greece.

And lower Sukhumvit.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

The link I gave did not infact refer to the UNO partition of Palestine

This one does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition

Once again you post stuff you do not understand and copy from a page you have either not read fully or did not understand.

Is that so? Since you know so much, what was the UNO demarcation of Palestine?

To save you some time.

From the first section of that wiki page:

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal... "

"The partition plan was not implemented."

Originally Posted by pseudolus

One in three refugees world wide is Palestinian. There are about 6.5 million Palestinian refugees worldwide. More than 3.8 million Palestinian refugees and their descendents displaced in 1948 are registered for humanitarian assistance with the United Nations.

Not so, it's 1 in 4.

As of 2015, there were about 5,149,742 million Palestinian refugees to 15.1 million others.(UNHCR figures)

During 1946 –1948, aprox. 711,000 refugees left Israel
Descendants of those original refugees increased the figure to aprox. 4,950,000 by 2012, now 5.1 million aprox.