Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by sabang

^^^So what about occupied Palestine?

^Yes, many Palestinians are Christian- so what? It is the Israeli Jews who are the illegal settlers, and subjecting the place to an illegal and brutal occupation.

It would appear that my post 113 and the article in has been completely ignored and you have the nerve to call other members bigots

Home | Jewish Virtual Library

Really? You expect anyone to take that seriously? It would be like taking an article in Abatoir Weekly about the dangers of vegetarianism seriously.

Ent - you know you are wrong because Piwi agrees with you.

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Let me make it easier for you to comprehend, ENT.

The highlighted part = rubbish/nonsense/fiction.

I'll make it easier for you,.... you can read the pictures instead of trying to read.

So go look at the 1947 map of the UNO proposed state of Israel.

You can look at pictures if you want, ENT, but it won't turn your fiction into fact.

Typical Muslim reaction,.....deliberate ignorance.

Show your proof. Copy and paste, or post a link to, a document that proves your claim. The UN? Wiki? Surely there must be at least one source (apart from your own creative writings).

Go Google Nerdena
Look for it yourself.

I've already posted links and refs which you have deliberately and conveniently ignored.

Have a nice day.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

I'll make it easier for you,.... you can read the pictures instead of trying to read.

So go look at the 1947 map of the UNO proposed state of Israel.

You can look at pictures if you want, ENT, but it won't turn your fiction into fact.

Typical Muslim reaction,.....deliberate ignorance.

Show your proof. Copy and paste, or post a link to, a document that proves your claim. The UN? Wiki? Surely there must be at least one source (apart from your own creative writings).

Go Google Nerdena
Look for it yourself.

I've already posted links and refs which you have deliberately and conveniently ignored.

Have a nice day.

have a look on Home | Jewish Virtual Library they will doubtless agree with Ent..

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 03:32 PM

You got something against Jews?

**Neverna** · 21-04-2016, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

I'll make it easier for you,.... you can read the pictures instead of trying to read.

So go look at the 1947 map of the UNO proposed state of Israel.

You can look at pictures if you want, ENT, but it won't turn your fiction into fact.

Typical Muslim reaction,.....deliberate ignorance.

Show your proof. Copy and paste, or post a link to, a document that proves your claim. The UN? Wiki? Surely there must be at least one source (apart from your own creative writings).

Go Google Nerdena
Look for it yourself.

I've already posted links and refs which you have deliberately and conveniently ignored.

Have a nice day.

You have not provided any text or link to support your claim that...

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

**Neverna** · 21-04-2016, 03:41 PM

ENT, which post of yours in this thread do you think supports your claim?

**sabang** · 21-04-2016, 03:52 PM

One of the ironies of the ongoing Israeli persecution of the Palestinians is that they are also persecuting THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

Samaritan origins of Palestinian Muslims in Nablus

Much of the local Palestinian population of Nablus is believed to be descended from Samaritans who converted to Islam.[56] According to the historian Fayyad Altif, large numbers of Samaritans converted due to persecution under various Muslim rulers, and because the monotheistic nature of Islam made it easy for them to accept it.[56] The Samaritans themselves describe the Ottoman period as the worst period in their modern history, as many Samaritan families were forced to convert their religion to Islam during that time.[58] Even today, certain Nabulsi family names such as Maslamani, Yaish, and Shaksheer among others, are associated with Samaritan ancestry.

... In 1940, the future Israeli president and historian Yitzhak Ben-Zvi wrote an article in which he stated that two thirds of the residents of Nablus and the surrounding neighboring villages are of Samaritan origin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari...lims_in_Nablus

Many Palestinians have Hebrew, or part Hebrew, ancestry.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 03:55 PM

What is confusing Ent with his figures and percentages, is that he is relying on Zionist propaganda material for this. Although the split of land he is was initially touted at 93% to the arabs, that was never accepted by the zionist murderers. So what was really offered was 56% of the mandated land to create a new state for Germanic European jews with no semite blood or DNA in them (and therefore no right to ever go to that land in the first place) and the rest to the indigenous arab population who have lived there for thousands of years, on their land, doing very nicely thankyou until the zionist scum started to ethnically cleanse them from their land. This was only a UN proposal though, and not an actual decision.

It was a very generous offer to let the indigenous people of the land keep a minority of their land, offering shelter to a bunch of zionists who were basically led financially by the same people who funded Hitlers war machine in the early days, which ultimately created the false need for a load of jews of European ancestry (not semite) to move thousands of miles away, to steel another peoples land and subject them to 60 years of massacres, humiliation, and murder. Clearly the countries that voted for this would be in the region and have intimate knowledge of the situation there, and were not simply being pushed around by the zionist bully boys?

Voted for
Bolivia Brazil Costa Rica Dominican Republic Ecuador Haiti Nicaragua Panama Paraguay Peru Uruguay Venezuela Belgium Denmark France Iceland Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Sweden Byelorussian SSRCzechoslovakiaPolandUkrainian SSRSoviet Union Liberia South Africa Australia New Zealand Philippines Canada United States

Oh - no middle eastern countries then?

Afghanistan India Iran Iraq Lebanon Pakistan Saudi Arabia Syria Yemen Greece Turkey Egypt Cuba

they voted against of course. They knew what was happening.

Is that not in JewishLibrary or what ever US based pro israel zionist lying wank mag you read? Nothing was actually agreed because before it could be agreed, the jewish terrorist insurgents starting attacking the indiginous population (same tactic israel are using with ISIS in Syria - externals attacking the people of a country; they never change). Then the Arab league stepped in, in what do you call it again? Israel war of independence? 5555555. The british had already washed their hands of it, having been told by the zionists to leave it to them (they love murder and terror so wanted a free hand to kill as many people as possible), and the chips rested where they lay with a large majority of the land being in the hands of the foreign interlopers, the ISIS of their day, the zionist extremist terror groups, who had suddenly built a navy, airforce and huge army with western money and supplies.

But of course.... the non semite zionists want it all, and they will get it.

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

ENT, which post of yours in this thread do you think supports your claim?

Don't be so bloody lazy, read the posts and the refs I've given first, and stop expecting me to spoon feed you.

**Lukey1979** · 21-04-2016, 04:04 PM

You can't go around calling Arabs all the nasty names under the sun, going ballistic on Islam all day long, and then get your knickers in a twist about Anti Semitism, asking people if they ''have a problem with Jews'' etc. Not if you want to be taken seriously at least.

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Although the split of land he is was initially touted at 93% to the arabs, that was never accepted by the zionist murderers. So what was really offered was 56% of the mandated land to create a new state for Germanic European jews with no semite blood or DNA in them (and therefore no right to ever go to that land in the first place) and the rest to the indigenous arab population who have lived there for thousands of years, on their land, doing very nicely thankyou until the zionist scum started to ethnically cleanse them from their land. This was only a UN proposal though, and not an actual decision.

Complete bullsh*t, as was the rest of your drivel.

You must have cherry-picked all of that out of your daily dangle-berry harvest.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 04:06 PM

And another thing, the bitterest irony of this all. The people who are pro zionist, are usually exactly the same people anti immigrants in their country. People running away from wars and brutal regimes to a safer country for them and their family. Fine for the Palestinians to put up with the zionist immigrants, and to be wiped out by them, but in their country? A handful coming in to work? Oh no! Kill them. Send them back. Well, where is your empathy with the Palestinians who want to send back tall the fruitloop drugged up fucktard settlers? imagine the response is a load of muslim immigrants went door to door in america, Australia or the UK with guns, shooting people, burning houses down, raping women and children? EVERY NIGHT. EVERY DAY. There would be global outrage, but these fuckers actually SUPPORT this happening in Palestine.

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lukey1979

You can't go around calling Arabs all the nasty names under the sun, going ballistic on Islam all day long, and then get your knickers in a twist about Anti Semitism, asking people if they ''have a problem with Jews'' etc. Not if you want to be taken seriously at least.

I asked him a straight question, so mind your own business and stop stirring.

**Neverna** · 21-04-2016, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

ENT, which post of yours in this thread do you think supports your claim?

Don't be so bloody lazy, read the posts and the refs I've given first, and stop expecting me to spoon feed you.

I've read your posts in this thread. There's nothing that comes even close to supporting your claim. It is fictitious and you know it.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Lukey1979

You can't go around calling Arabs all the nasty names under the sun, going ballistic on Islam all day long, and then get your knickers in a twist about Anti Semitism, asking people if they ''have a problem with Jews'' etc. Not if you want to be taken seriously at least.

I asked him a straight question, so mind your own business and stop stirring.

What is it that Ant say? You based your question upon a logical fallacy. As the core of your question rested on a point that was factually incorrect, therefore the question is invalid, and will only become valid when you base it upon correct information. I reached out an olive branch (olive trees are a settler target - they burn them to stop palestinians from earning a living - bunch of cuuunts) to you by supplying you with the correct information so use that and try asking it again.

**ENT** · 21-04-2016, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

And another thing, the bitterest irony of this all. The people who are pro zionist, are usually exactly the same people anti immigrants in their country. People running away from wars and brutal regimes to a safer country for them and their family. Fine for the Palestinians to put up with the zionist immigrants, and to be wiped out by them, but in their country? A handful coming in to work? Oh no! Kill them. Send them back. Well, where is your empathy with the Palestinians who want to send back tall the fruitloop drugged up fucktard settlers? imagine the response is a load of muslim immigrants went door to door in america, Australia or the UK with guns, shooting people, burning houses down, raping women and children? EVERY NIGHT. EVERY DAY. There would be global outrage, but these fuckers actually SUPPORT this happening in Palestine.

The official census figures for Palestine in 1948 was aprox 0.6 million Jews to 1.3 million Arabs/Muslims.

If you stop spitting all over your keyboard and screaming, you might be able to write some coherent passages in your attempts to convince folks of the wisdom of your thinking, but I'm afraid that your emotional problems are confusing you.

Go back and read what you've posted, have a think and a rest, then try again.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 04:19 PM

What you are negating to realise is that there always was a jewish, christian and muslim population living in palestine, side by side, with no problems long before the European faux jew non semite terrorists rocked up into town.

This is also what is confusing you. I've explained to you about the indiginous jewish population. Sabang has explained a different part of it to you as well. They all lived together in peace and harmony.... until the ISIS of the 1940s rolled into town and started their terror campaign.

Even today, the majority of the indiginous jewish population of the area are abhorred by the activities of the european jews who run the place. Not all jews are the same, regardless of what that murdering pedo Bibi says.

**Lukey1979** · 21-04-2016, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Lukey1979

You can't go around calling Arabs all the nasty names under the sun, going ballistic on Islam all day long, and then get your knickers in a twist about Anti Semitism, asking people if they ''have a problem with Jews'' etc. Not if you want to be taken seriously at least.

I asked him a straight question, so mind your own business and stop stirring.

It's got nothing to do with that question you asked whoever it was, its a general observation about the way you've been going on like a fucking head case.

And don't tell me to mind my own business on an open forum, not if you want to be taken seriously.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Lukey1979

you've been going on like a fucking head case

wonder where he copies that from?

maybe because his mancrush hero is a fucking head case as well .

**sabang** · 21-04-2016, 04:32 PM

Actually, the story of the Jews as a wandering tribe, cruelly exiled from their Homeland, is a concocted fantasy. A nationalist fantasy spurred on by zionists and faux historians to add vigour and credence to the zionist project- ie the establishing of a Jewish state in Palestine. Which duly happened, after WW2.

But the plain fact is, most Jews did Not leave Palastina after the Jewish revolt. Most remained, and became over the years (along with Philistines, Moabites, Ammonites, Phoenicians etc), Palestinian. Not only does a zionist Jew not want you to know this- there is every chance he does not know himself.

Anyone interested in both real history, and the bases of some of the historical myths we concoct (and that means virtually every race, not just Jews), I strongly recommend they read this:-
Israel deliberately forgets its history

Some snippets-

Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, for the good reason that the latter was Egyptian territory at the time. And there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the pharaonic empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders.

Nor is there any trace or memory of the magnificent kingdom of David and Solomon. Recent discoveries point to the existence, at the time, of two small kingdoms: Israel, the more powerful, and Judah, the future Judea. The general population of Judah did not go into 6th century BC exile: only its political and intellectual elite were forced to settle in Babylon. This decisive encounter with Persian religion gave birth to Jewish monotheism.

Then there is the question of the exile of 70 AD. There has been no real research into this turning point in Jewish history, the cause of the diaspora. And for a simple reason: the Romans never exiled any nation from anywhere on the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean. Apart from enslaved prisoners, the population of Judea continued to live on their lands, even after the destruction of the second temple. Some converted to Christianity in the 4th century, while the majority embraced Islam during the 7th century Arab conquest.

Most Zionist thinkers were aware of this: Yitzhak Ben Zvi, later president of Israel, and David Ben Gurion, its first prime minister, accepted it as late as 1929, the year of the great Palestinian revolt. Both stated on several occasions that the peasants of Palestine were the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Judea

Proselytising zeal

But if there was no exile after 70 AD, where did all the Jews who have populated the Mediterranean since antiquity come from? The smokescreen of national historiography hides an astonishing reality. From the Maccabean revolt of the mid-2nd century BC to the Bar Kokhba revolt of the 2nd century AD, Judaism was the most actively proselytising religion. The Judeo-Hellenic Hasmoneans forcibly converted the Idumeans of southern Judea and the Itureans of Galilee and incorporated them into the people of Israel. Judaism spread across the Middle East and round the Mediterranean. The 1st century AD saw the emergence in modern Kurdistan of the Jewish kingdom of Adiabene, just one of many that converted.

The writings of Flavius Josephus are not the only evidence of the proselytising zeal of the Jews. Horace, Seneca, Juvenal and Tacitus were among the Roman writers who feared it. The Mishnah and the Talmud3 authorised conversion, even if the wise men of the Talmudic tradition expressed reservations in the face of the mounting pressure from Christianity.

Although the early 4th century triumph of Christianity did not mark the end of Jewish expansion, it relegated Jewish proselytism to the margins of the Christian cultural world. During the 5th century, in modern Yemen, a vigorous Jewish kingdom emerged in Himyar, whose descendants preserved their faith through the Islamic conquest and down to the present day. Arab chronicles tell of the existence, during the 7th century, of Judaised Berber tribes; and at the end of the century the legendary Jewish queen Dihya contested the Arab advance into northwest Africa. Jewish Berbers participated in the conquest of the Iberian peninsula and helped establish the unique symbiosis between Jews and Muslims that characterised Hispano-Arabic culture.

The most significant mass conversion occurred in the 8th century, in the massive Khazar kingdom between the Black and Caspian seas. The expansion of Judaism from the Caucasus into modern Ukraine created a multiplicity of communities, many of which retreated from the 13th century Mongol invasions into eastern Europe. There, with Jews from the Slavic lands to the south and from what is now modern Germany, they formed the basis of Yiddish culture.

(Schlomo Sand, the author, is professor of history at Tel Aviv university)

The Jews and Israeli's are using largely concocted myths to justify the persecution, dispossession and marginalisation of their own people, their own shared ancestry. In fact, the people they are persecuting quite probably have more actual Hebrew blood in them than the dominant, immigrant Ashkenazi Jews in Israel and Palestine.

But theres no such thing as a Palestinian ehh, Ent.

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

The Jews and Israeli's are using largely concocted myths to justify the persecution, dispossession and marginalisation of their own people, their own shared ancestry. In fact, the people they are persecuting quite probably have more actual Hebrew blood in them than the dominant, immigrant Ashkenazi Jews in Israel.

Bloody immigrants.

**AntRobertson** · 21-04-2016, 04:45 PM

This is the point where ENT just starts doubling-down on his dribble and obfuscating rather than admitting that he's wrong...

...

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

ENT, which post of yours in this thread do you think supports your claim?

Don't be so bloody lazy, read the posts and the refs I've given first, and stop expecting me to spoon feed you.

I hate to say 'I told you so...'*

*Nah, not really.

**piwanoi** · 21-04-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

You got something against Jews?

How on Earth did you make that Assumption ?

**pseudolus** · 21-04-2016, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by ENT

You got something against Jews?

How on Earth did you make that Assumption ?

what am I then? Self hater?

**piwanoi** · 21-04-2016, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ A barefaced lie and you know it. The 'west bank' has been continuously occupied for many thousand years.

Why bother with this Hasbara bullshit- everyone knows it is a lie? If Israel wants to keep the place (which it obviously does) it needs to form a combined state, and grant citizenship to the people there.

Again- name another country where the indigenous people do not enjoy basic human rights and citizenship in their own land?

If the West Bank is so bad for the Arabs under Israeli occupation ,why is'nt there hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers leaving and flooding into Europe like they are from the other Islamic dominated shitholes?

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