Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Absolutely true.

And if the criterion for being a Jew and being entitled as of right to live in Israel, was based solely on being of Semitic descent from the mother, Israel would be full of inbred, bi-polar, and half-witted, congenitally diseased Arabs by now, ....on benefits for life.

No, isreal wouldn't exist and the world would be a much more peaceful place.

Like hell it would.

Fascists would just find another scapegoat for their problems and inbred mat-lickers would be ruling Europe.

The zionists are the fascists though. They were being the Nazis, Stalin, the whole lot. Same people who set up israel are the same people who funded all the ret of the atrocities of the world.

They never stop

Records of Israeli arms sales during Rwandan genocide to remain sealed | The Times of Israel

Aw cry me a river!

Israeli arms sales are like a drop in a bucket compared to US, Russian, Chinese, German, British and French arms sales 1

Global arms sales 2014 in US$1millions

United States............ 10194
2 Russia.............. 5971
3 China............... 1978
4 France.............. 1200
5 Germany.......... 1110
6 United Kingdom 1083
7 Israel............... 1074
8 Spain............... 824
9 Italy................. 786
10 Ukraine............ 664
11 Netherlands...... 561
12 Sweden............. 394
13 Switzerland...... 350
14 Turkey.............. 274
15 Canada............ 234

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry

ENT, possibly Israeli arms rank # 1 in quality.
They work correctly when they are supposed to.
Much of Israeli armaments are defensive in nature. Check out Rafael Industries.

www.rafael.co.il

Originally Posted by ENT

Aw cry me a river!

Israeli arms sales are like a drop in a bucket compared to US, Russian, Chinese, German, British and French arms sales 1

Global arms sales 2014 in US$1millions

United States............ 10194
2 Russia.............. 5971
3 China............... 1978
4 France.............. 1200
5 Germany.......... 1110
6 United Kingdom 1083
7 Israel............... 1074
8 Spain............... 824
9 Italy................. 786
10 Ukraine............ 664
11 Netherlands...... 561
12 Sweden............. 394
13 Switzerland...... 350
14 Turkey.............. 274
15 Canada............ 234

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry

To people committing genocide? Well of course, the US UK and France do that all the time, but victim israel, and you just need to google 6,000,000 jews to read all about that, surely they should not be arming genocidal maniacs. But you know what they say, birds of a feather and all that...

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The zionists are the fascists though. They were being the Nazis, Stalin, the whole lot. Same people who set up israel are the same people who funded all the ret of the atrocities of the world.

They never stop

Records of Israeli arms sales during Rwandan genocide to remain sealed | The Times of Israel

You're totally unreal in your claims!

According to you the Zionists were the Nazis, Stalin "the whole lot" (whatever that means), and are responsible for all the rest of world attrocities!!

Bloody hell!! They must be THE Superpower, more powerful than all the other world Superpowers combined!!

Woohooo!!

Are they the Lizard people?


Back to reality.


From your ref. above;

"Over the course of 100 days, an estimated 750,000 to one million Tutsis were brutally killed, largely with machetes and other simple weapons. The exact number of victims has been difficult to determine as no official records were kept of the massacre.

[COLOR="yellow"]Some of the weapons used allegedly included Israeli-made 5.56-mm bullets, grenades and rifles.[/COLOR]

However, the official documentation of those sales, and their extent, will remain closed to public eyes in light of Monday’s decision."



Not quite the slant you were spinning that story at, is it?

Ent, you are a Liar. You are not even worth debating or engaging with, bigoted liar.

Originally Posted by sabang

Ent, you are a Liar. You are not even worth debating or engaging with, bigoted liar.

Yup, it seems that way.

Originally Posted by sabang

Ent, you are a Liar. You are not even worth debating or engaging with, bigoted liar.

Is that so?

Tell me where.

^^^ and ^^ have had plenty of time to come up with your answers and have failed.

As expected, you've nothing to back up your false accusations.

What a shame.

Originally Posted by ENT

^^^ and ^^ have had plenty of time to come up with your answers and have failed.

As expected, you've nothing to back up your false accusations.

What a shame.

Indeed , one would have hoped for the reason for the accusation first time around without you having to ask for it

US State Department spokesman, 'territories are not part of Israel,' Vice President Joe Biden says settlements leading Israel towards a 'one-state reality.'

The United States signalled its opposition to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's recent declaration that the Golan Heights will forever remain a part of Israel, stressing on Monday that Washington did not consider the Golan a part of Israel.

"Every administration on both sides of the aisle since 1967 has maintained that those territories are not part of Israel," US State Department Spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

Kirby went on to say that the conditions under which the Golan Heights should be returned must be decided through negotiations between the respective parties. "And obviously, the current situation in Syria makes it difficult to continue those efforts at this time," Kirby said.

US: Golan Heights are not part of Israel - Israel News, Ynetnews


USA's had years to voice its objections to Israel's presence on the Golan, but didn't really make any sort of a fuss until now.

There's a good reason for USA's recent moaning.

OIL.

USA's fighting another one of its oil wars in Syria, it's got nothing to do with bringing democracy to the land. US can't get hold of the Golan oil unless the Golan is re-integrated into Syria, where USA and its allies want to depose Syria's Assad and establish their approved government there.

Once done, getting Israel to hand back the Golan would be a prerequisite to to US exploitation of recent oil finds there, aided and abetted by their new USA backed Syrian puppet regime they'd like there.

As John Kirby said, the conditions under which the Golan Heights should be returned must be decided through negotiations between the respective parties. "And obviously, the current situation in Syria makes it difficult to continue those efforts at this time,"

Negotiations re. Golan? Between whom?

Between Israel and USA's hoped for new puppet regime in Syria.

Interesting Article about the US and the the Golan Heights Articles: Is Obama plotting yet again to harm embattled Israel?

Syrians reject Israel's vow to control Golan 'forever'


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has for the first time held his weekly cabinet meeting in the occupied Golan Heights, amid criticism from local Syrian activists.

Speaking in the Jewish-only settlement of Maaleh Gamla on Sunday, Netanyahu declared that the 70 percent of the Golan, which Israeli forces occupied during the 1967 Middle East war, will "always remain" under Israeli control.

"I convened this celebratory meeting in the Golan Heights to send a clear message: The Golan will always remain in Israel's hands. Israel will never withdraw from the Golan Heights," he said.



Hezbollah fighters push towards Golan Heights
The move came on the 70th anniversary of Syria's independence, marking the withdrawal of French colonial forces from the country in 1946.

Netanyahu's declaration comes at a time when Syria is engulfed in a civil war between Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government and opposition groups. Although it started as a largely unarmed uprising in March 2011, the United Nations estimates that more than 260,000 have been killed so far.

About 20,000 indigenous Syrian Arabs - mostly from the Druze religious community - live in six villages still standing in the occupied territory. Meanwhile, upwards of 21,000 Israeli settlers live in 33 Jewish-only settlements subsidised and protected by the Israeli government.

While local Syrians are split over the ongoing civil war, the vast majority oppose Israel's occupation. They hold Israeli-issued travel documents, but most have rejected offers of Israeli citizenship and remain legally "stateless".

Since the outbreak of the Syrian conflict, the Netanyahu government has also invested millions of dollars in Israeli settlements in the Golan.

Benedetta Berti, a security analyst and research fellow at the Tel Aviv-based Institute for National Security Studies, explained that the Netanyahu government views control of the Golan as essential to the country's security.

She said that Israel is monitoring the Syrian-controlled side closely for activity by Iranian troops and Hezbollah, the Lebanese armed group fighting alongside Assad.

"I think the Israeli security establishment still believes it is not in Israel's interest to get directly involved in the internal battles between Assad and his opponents," said Berti.

Nonetheless, she argued that big advances by pro-Assad forces could trigger "some type of Israeli 'signalling' operation", like the killing of Samir Kantar, a former prisoner and high-profile Hezbollah fighter.

Kantar, who had served 29 years in Israeli prison, was killed in December by a suspected Israeli air strike in the Jaramana area of Damascus.

In Quneitra, situated in the side of Golan still controlled by Syria, media activist Abu Omar al-Jolani said Syrians are united in their opposition to Israel's occupation of the territory.

Read more;
Syrians reject Israel's vow to control Golan 'forever' - AJE News

I would like to believe that I'm an optimist , however I highly doubt that there will ever be a lasting peace in the Middle East , simply because Most Arab's would like to see the Israeli's wiped off the face of the Earth ,for me all this bollox about land is just a smoke screen for the Arab's real intent of annihilating every single one of them .

I would like to believe that I'm an optimist , however I highly doubt that there will ever be a lasting peace in the Middle East , simply because israel is pursuing its greater israel project, with expansion to the Nile and Euphrates which is signified by the blue lines on their flag; that they want most Arab's wiped off the face of the Earth supported by the USA, UK and France, and excused their barbaric actions by idiots like Piwi and Ent who have fallen hook line and sinker for their propaganda and rewriting of history. .

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

You have had plenty of time to come up with proof and have failed. As expected, you've nothing to back up your false accusations.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I would like to believe that I'm an optimist , however I highly doubt that there will ever be a lasting peace in the Middle East , simply because israel is pursuing its greater israel project, with expansion to the Nile and Euphrates which is signified by the blue lines on their flag; that they want most Arab's wiped off the face of the Earth supported by the USA, UK and France, and excused their barbaric actions by idiots like Piwi and Ent who have fallen hook line and sinker for their propaganda and rewriting of history. .

If you believe all that garbage you must be completely mad.

Are the lizard people part of your fantasies too?

It's the sound of two tin-foiled heads butting!

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

You have had plenty of time to come up with proof and have failed. As expected, you've nothing to back up your false accusations.

Your un-original piece of plagiarization lifted from my post in reply to an abusive Islamophile and his brown noser in this thread just doesn't wash.

Approximately 77% of the original British mandate Palestine lying east of the Jordan was ceded to the Arabs under the rulership of the Sherif of Mecca, King Abdullah in 1921, in return for their supporting the British in the WW1 campaigns in Palestine, Canaan and the Levant.

The remaining 23% of Palestine, lying to the west of the River Jordan, which was designated as a Jewish homeland by Britain, was further divided by the UNO, allocating 56.47% of that remainder, ie, 12.98% of the total land area of British mandate Palestine.

So 43.63% of the 23% left, the land designated to be a Jewish homeland by the British, was also allocated by the UNO to the Arabs.

Arabs rejected the deal altogether, demanding all of the British mandated territory and that the Jew leave or die.

Any further information on the matter offered to a fool or a Muslim will never suffice, so take what I've posted or leave it.

jew leave or die

Fallacy - this was never the case. Jews, christian and muslims live happily side by side in that area right up until the zionist terrorists bombed israel into existence. It's just a lie propagated by the zionist propaganda machines to keep POOR VICTIM ISRAEL myth going to fool suckers like you.

Your ignorance of the Israeli war of independence is amazing.

Your anti-Semitism glows in the dark, it's so toxic.

Originally Posted by ENT

Your ignorance of the Israeli war of independence is amazing.

Your anti-Semitism glows in the dark, it's so toxic.

Oh dear - you still think BIBI and his bunch of terrorist scum bags are semites? How stupid can you be.

Israel war of independence? Is that what you are calling it? Thats amusing really. What do you call Rape - Mans struggle for masculinity?

Weapons from the US and Stalin sent to the Zionists to wipe out the Arabs in the land (because, you know, Stalin was a Zionist, and the whole soviet thing.... well you don't know. Go and have a look), and to start their expansion toward greater israel. You expect the neighbours to sit around whilst the non semite European terrorists continued to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Arabs, and then start on their land?


It's very amusing to hear all the muslims bashers complaining about muslims being in their country "we're being invaded" etc and at the same time, not seeing anything wrong with the arab states being invaded by non semite europeans pretending to be jews, funded and armed by the west, and setting about slaughtering the arab populations. Don't see the irony of your position, Ent?

Let me make it easier for you to comprehend, ENT.

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel,

The highlighted part = rubbish/nonsense/fiction.