Thread: Influx into the US

^ Off-topic.

The point of my posts is jobs.

But yes, there are criminals entering and even being released. I'll put these stats and reports up later.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The point of my posts is jobs.

There are lots of jobs. All the jobs that do not pay a living wage that only desperate immigrants will work. It is the same in the UK now with 700,000 illegal immigrants working in London alone working the jobs that pay substandard slave wages.

The borders stay open to let all the cheap workers in so that the big businesses and rich can get cheaper and cheaper slaves, which has the nasty side effect of vast swathes of long term unemployment. No matter how much these bastard politicians fudge the figures, unemployment is a huge problem

Originally Posted by wjblaney

In your heart you know he's right.

57 per cent decline

Between 2008 and 2012, 819,000 people entered the US from Mexico. In contrast, 1.9 million migrated from 2003 to 2007, representing a decline of 57 per cent according to figures from a US Census. These figures do not distinguish between legal and illegal US immigration.

Saenz, dean of the College of Public Policy at the Univeristy of Texas San Antonio [UTSA], said: "In the 1960s and 1970s it was not uncommon for the average Mexican woman to have seven births. As a result, the population of Mexico was quite youthful and 30 years ago approximately 35 per cent of the Mexican population were below the age of 15."

The previous high birth rate meant that many young Mexicans were unable to find employment at home. However, birth rate numbers in Mexico are not the same as they were three decades ago; the country's birth rate is now similar to that of the US.

Saenz said: "The excess labour force that existed in Mexico just 30 years ago is no longer there. Today we're seeing wealthier Mexican immigrants more likely to enter the United States on special visa programs. These programs often require them to make employment-creating investments."

Fleeing crime and violence

Rather than seeking immigration to the US to find employment in the construction sector as was previously the case, Mexicans are now arriving in the United States fleeing crime and violence in Mexico, mainly due to drug wars between rival cartels and gangs.

'Those arriving are much more likely to be naturalized US citizens coming back, English-speaking, better educated, older and female, compared with those Mexican immigrants arriving in the US decades ago', said Saenz.

Unauthorised Mexican immigrants

A similar study conducted by the Pew Research Center, shows that illegal Mexican immigrant numbers in the US has dropped since 2007. In 2007, 6.9 million unauthorised Mexican immigrants were living in the United States.

In addition due to economic factors and changing migration patterns, by 2010 the net migration figure had likely reached zero according to the Pew Research Center study. Pew added that since 2010, more Mexicans have departed the US than arrived. Therefore since 2010 more Mexicans have left the US than have arrived in the US.

The Pew Center's research seemingly disproves recent comments made by prospective Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, who said that unauthorised Mexican immigrants are 'flowing in like water' across US borders.

However, despite numbers dropping since 2007, in some US states Mexicans make up around 89 per cent of the total illegal immigrant population, with California having the largest concentration of illegal immigrants from Mexico with 1.6 million.
US Immigration from Mexico declines according to study


Illegal immigration to the US peaked during the Bush administration, and has fallen sharply in recent years.



It is a bit ironic that blowhards like Trump are trying to make this an election issue, because it just serves to highlight the effectiveness of the Obama administration in this regard.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The point of my posts is jobs.

There are lots of jobs. All the jobs that do not pay a living wage that only desperate immigrants will work. It is the same in the UK now with 700,000 illegal immigrants working in London alone working the jobs that pay substandard slave wages.

The borders stay open to let all the cheap workers in so that the big businesses and rich can get cheaper and cheaper slaves, which has the nasty side effect of vast swathes of long term unemployment. No matter how much these bastard politicians fudge the figures, unemployment is a huge problem

I agree with your points.

ILLegals will do lower paying jobs. (They also start contracting businesses in framing, painting, pressure washing, and tree surgury and undercut citizens.)

When ILLegals go legal (which is the point of my thread) they will enter the labor force where there are at least 6 applicants for 1 single job opening. I think many will enter the statistics of underemployed, on medicaid and competing for low paying cash jobs such as Wal-Mart.

And yes, government and business like these influxes of illegal - and legal - labor. People with the equivalent of an education up to age 12 (which is not uncommon in latin america), or the equivalent of a high school education in the home country.

I hope this thread stays on the topic of jobs - or, a lack of jobs, that is.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by wjblaney

In your heart you know he's right.

In my heart I know he's racist scum like the rest of the republicans.

Good that he's getting the GOP point of view out there early though.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The point of my posts is jobs.

There are lots of jobs. All the jobs that do not pay a living wage that only desperate immigrants will work. It is the same in the UK now with 700,000 illegal immigrants working in London alone working the jobs that pay substandard slave wages.

The borders stay open to let all the cheap workers in so that the big businesses and rich can get cheaper and cheaper slaves, which has the nasty side effect of vast swathes of long term unemployment. No matter how much these bastard politicians fudge the figures, unemployment is a huge problem

I agree with your points.

ILLegals will do lower paying jobs. (They also start contracting businesses in framing, painting, pressure washing, and tree surgury and undercut citizens.)

When ILLegals go legal (which is the point of my thread) they will enter the labor force where there are at least 6 applicants for 1 single job opening. I think many will enter the statistics of underemployed, on medicaid and competing for low paying cash jobs such as Wal-Mart.

And yes, government and business like these influxes of illegal - and legal - labor. People with the equivalent of an education up to age 12 (which is not uncommon in latin america), or the equivalent of a high school education in the home country.

I hope this thread stays on the topic of jobs - or, a lack of jobs, that is.

They also get driving licenses and therefore can vote for the corrupt politicians who let them in. In the US it is all part of the long term plan to remove the separate countries to leave a North American Union with Canada, Mexica and USA.

Remember General "I should be in jail but I am a neocon scumbag globalist bilderberger" Petraeus saying “After America comes North America”. Same is happening with Europe, breaking down nationalism (a collective understanding of what is means to be British, French, German etc) by flooding countries with other nationalities who care not one jot about the historical past of and the culture of a country.

Its all part of the big plan.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The point of my posts is jobs.

There are lots of jobs. All the jobs that do not pay a living wage that only desperate immigrants will work. It is the same in the UK now with 700,000 illegal immigrants working in London alone working the jobs that pay substandard slave wages.

The borders stay open to let all the cheap workers in so that the big businesses and rich can get cheaper and cheaper slaves, which has the nasty side effect of vast swathes of long term unemployment. No matter how much these bastard politicians fudge the figures, unemployment is a huge problem

I agree with your points.

ILLegals will do lower paying jobs. (They also start contracting businesses in framing, painting, pressure washing, and tree surgury and undercut citizens.)

When ILLegals go legal (which is the point of my thread) they will enter the labor force where there are at least 6 applicants for 1 single job opening. I think many will enter the statistics of underemployed, on medicaid and competing for low paying cash jobs such as Wal-Mart.

And yes, government and business like these influxes of illegal - and legal - labor. People with the equivalent of an education up to age 12 (which is not uncommon in latin america), or the equivalent of a high school education in the home country.

I hope this thread stays on the topic of jobs - or, a lack of jobs, that is.

They also get driving licenses and therefore can vote for the corrupt politicians who let them in. In the US it is all part of the long term plan to remove the separate countries to leave a North American Union with Canada, Mexica and USA.

Remember General "I should be in jail but I am a neocon scumbag globalist bilderberger" Petraeus saying “After America comes North America”. Same is happening with Europe, breaking down nationalism (a collective understanding of what is means to be British, French, German etc) by flooding countries with other nationalities who care not one jot about the historical past of and the culture of a country.

Its all part of the big plan.

As for Sabang's Pew research article, there are many stats in it that cannot be corrorborated. Not saying they are false, but saying it's difficult and perhaps not possible to check.

Related to this thread is (IMO) the H1-B visa - insourcing.


Congress: Middle Class Incomes Drop as Immigration Surges

Paul Bedard, Washington Examiner, April 23, 2015

Wages of America’s middle class have dropped below 1970s levels as immigration has surged 325 percent, according to a new congressional report that questions claims that native Americans are economically helped by greater immigration.

The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service report studied immigration and middle class income from 1945-2013 and found that as immigration slowed between 1945 and 1970, American incomes increased.

But when immigration expanded, the incomes of the bottom 90 percent of Americans went flat and then dropped beginning in 2000.

In the report to the Senate Judiciary Committee, the CRS reported that the foreign-born population of the United States surged 324.5 percent, from 9,740,000 to 41,348,066, from 1970 to 2013.

And as that happened, incomes of the bottom 90 percent dropped 7.9 percent in 2013 dollars, from an average of $33,621 to $30,980.

The report could throw cold water on congressional efforts to expand immigration for tech and other jobs. One bill, sponsored by Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch and backed by presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio would boost guest worker levels and remove any cap on green cards for certain foreign graduates of American colleges and universities.

Congress: Middle Class Incomes Drop as Immigration Surges | American Renaissance

Mass immigration is great.

All that cheap labour for Republican business owners, so they can blackmail Americans into accepting lower wages and benefits.

The only reason they don't legalise them all is because they know they'd vote Democrat.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

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Wonder what quality contribution to the thread harry has made? I would assume it is something scintillating, enthralling, insightful, and full to the brim of opinion on the subject, not his opinion of the another member posting.
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Wonder no more. See the previous post which is just chock full of insightful and pertinent comments regarding immigration.

And don't forget "And fucking spot on".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by wjblaney

In your heart you know he's right.

In my heart I know he's racist scum like the rest of the republicans.

Good that he's getting the GOP point of view out there early though.

Sounds like a promotion. Drugs addicts, criminals, rapists, they gonna vote GOP.

Damn Foreigners..

Was reading an article earlier today about SS and how money is being borrowed out of the trust fund to pay today's recipients. And how we're looking at major changes by around 2033 partially because we don't have enough young people paying in. Goes on to note how nobody seems to notice there is an asterisk (*) on your annual statement where your estimated benefits are proclaiming what "you may get" unless changes are made. Goes on to talk about a current surplus of $$$ in MEDICAID and attributes that too ... Illegal immigrants.

We need immigration reform ... And we need it fast.

^ The problem is,

"immigration reform" is a bullshit term.

It's "let more ILLegals in to search for jobs that do not exist and have them go on Medicaid.

Many ILLegals do not speak their native first language of Spanish well. Quit school at 10-12-13 years of age.

What jobs will be available to them when they go legal?

Many are getting work permits now to legally work.

There are already TOO MANY people applying to wal-mart.

^ Problem is ... Old people are living longer and the baby boomer generation only averaged about 2 kids per couple. And generations that followed are only averaging something like 1.7 kids per couple. And those old geezers already collecting SS aren't going to vote to reduce their benefits any time soon.

What do you mean there aren't any jobs? The trucking industry consistently reports a severe shortage of drivers and many companies provide CDL training.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

More news on jobs.

Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007

By PAUL BEDARD • 8/7/15


All of the employment gains among women since the recession hit in December 2007 have been taken by foreigners, even at a time when the numbers of U.S.-born women surged more than 600,000, according to new federal statistics.

The jobs data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed gains in the "employment level" among "foreign born women" and losses among "native born women."

Link?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Black Heart

More news on jobs.

Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007

By PAUL BEDARD • 8/7/15


All of the employment gains among women since the recession hit in December 2007 have been taken by foreigners, even at a time when the numbers of U.S.-born women surged more than 600,000, according to new federal statistics.

The jobs data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed gains in the "employment level" among "foreign born women" and losses among "native born women."

Link?

Thanks for the FYI Harry. My bad.

Here is the link: Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007 | Washington Examiner

We also wonder why someone from the NIR has such ego-involvement regarding whether or not this poster would pick oranges, eh?

I've been in LOS so long now I've picked my nose up to the second knuckle with a big fat green booger on the end of my finger and never got a reaction from the locals

btw, before we get some flaming going on that post, we're sure that if Hairy was to do the same, he'd eat that fucker!