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    Take you time boys read this and try to understand every point, then if you have any opinions on this post please reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Amazingly it seems someone in Russia is starting to see some fucking sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Seems like just a week ago the who reason for Putin's actions in Syria was to keep Assad in power. Now they don't know what we're talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    It's good to be King. Easier to flip-flop and spin the message. Carry on.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    So, you mean now that Russia has changed it's mind about cradeling Assad a solution can be found. Beginning to see a pivot here by both the Ruskies and their minion hand puppets.
    Hi guys, glad to see that the idiotic consensus of the unread (ICOTU) have one theme to play with.

    Some quotes, plus links to the publishers, over time from the Russian government, for your education:

    June 5 2012: Russia says Assad could go in Syria settlement
    Russia said Tuesday it was prepared to see Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leave power in a negotiated solution to 15 months of bloodshed that has claimed more than 13,000 lives.
    ...
    "We have never said or insisted that Assad necessarily had to remain in power at the end of the political process," Gatilov told the ITAR-TASS news agency in Switzerland.
    "This issue has to be settled by the Syrians themselves."
    September 15 2012: Russia says not 'clinging' to Syria's Assad
    "We are not clinging to any political figures," Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said in brief comments reaffirming the country's official position. "And anyone who claims otherwise is distorting the picture," Gatilov told the Interfax news agency.
    ...
    "It is only through the political process -- and not through any decision of the UN Security Council -- that the Syrians should determine the future of their state and its make-up," he added.

    December 20 2012: Putin Says Russia Not Wedded to Assad, Wants End to Strife
    Russia isn’t wedded to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and its main goal is to end the civil war in the country, President Vladimir Putin said.
    ...
    We aren’t concerned about Assad’s fate, we understand that the same family has been in power for 40 years and changes are obviously needed,” Putin said.
    September 15 2015: Russia's Vladimir Putin Says Only Syrian People Can Decide The Future Of President Assad
    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that only Syrian people are entitled to decide who should govern their country and how. He was reacting to the reference of the U.S. coalition partners who want to see Syrian President Bashar Assad leave his office.
    October 30 2015: by Russia's Foreign minister Lavrov in a press conference with U.S. Secretary of State:
    Lavrov: As John has said, we have no agreement on the destiny of Assad. Russia believes that it is up to Syrian people to decide within the framework of the political process. It is said in the joint statement that the political process should be done by the Syrian people and belong to the Syrian people, and the Syrian people should decide the future of their country.
    ...
    "Journalist": [...] Russia has said, as you said just a few moments ago, that you do not necessarily believe that Mr. Assad needs to go?
    ...
    Lavrov: I did not say that Assad has to go or that Assad has to stay. I said that Assad’s destiny should be decided by the Syrian people, as well as all other aspects of further development of the Syrian state.
    Flipflopping, unattributed, person of position, inconsistent Russia!! Stopped swallowing the MSM propaganda from the unexceptional crusader coalition?

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Everyone: "Assad has to go" Putin: "Can I pick his replacement?"
    As posted yesterday:

    European Union - EEAS (European External Action Service) | Final declaration on the results of the Syria Talks in Vienna as agreed by participants

    The "participants" at a "Meeting in Vienna, on October 30, 2015, China, Egypt, the EU, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United Nations, and the United States [“the participants”] came together to discuss the grave situation in Syria and how to bring about an end to the violence as soon as possible.

    AGREED on 9 items, one of which:

    Item 8. This political process will be Syrian led and Syrian owned, and the Syrian people will decide the future of Syria.

    Now, you ICOTU members, might say the "participants" are nobodies. The countries who are involved with the war, may wish to disagree with you on their status, in Syria signed a declaration, they all may have been lying, but the fact remains harry your "everyone" is a total load of shitty crap, again.

    But hey keep spreading the MSM.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    Your source is a blog site for opinions of people whose identity is intentionally withheld. Not reputable.
    Does that make a difference to the persons opinion?

    As posted yesterday, the publisher of the quote is irrelevant when a named source is published. In the instance you are referring to, it was a named American Government spokesperson. As we know when a member of the unexceptional empire speaks knees tremble in fear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    Nah, even Assad knew the game was much bigger than himself.
    Exactly, and there are probably many instances of him be quoted, if you can be bothered to look, ICOTU.
    Last edited by OhOh; 05-11-2015 at 10:26 AM.
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