Thread: New crisis in Europes

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Stalin never tried to get to Golders Green to gas all the Yids there. No doubt he was an absolute piece of shit but the fact remains that the only people in the entire history of the world who ever put into action a plan to universally annihilate all those they believed were inferior were the Krauts. And not too long ago either. The world is full of murderous dictators but the Germans were on another and altogether unique level. We forget that at our peril. The Germans committed the most monstrous crimes in humanity's history and despite the few dimwits and conspiracy nuts who deny this Europe still remembers what happens, that is why no European can ever meet a German without immediately thinking of Auschwitz. The Krauts are tolerated but they are a long way from forgiven. To the rest of if Europe they are still dangerous animals, we just don't mention it to their faces.

Why do I always get the feeling that you have a failed livelihood ?
(did a german beat you to a job/opportunity ?)

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Stalin never tried to get to Golders Green to gas all the Yids there. No doubt he was an absolute piece of shit but the fact remains that the only people in the entire history of the world who ever put into action a plan to universally annihilate all those they believed were inferior were the Krauts. And not too long ago either. The world is full of murderous dictators but the Germans were on another and altogether unique level. We forget that at our peril. The Germans committed the most monstrous crimes in humanity's history and despite the few dimwits and conspiracy nuts who deny this Europe still remembers what happens, that is why no European can ever meet a German without immediately thinking of Auschwitz. The Krauts are tolerated but they are a long way from forgiven. To the rest of if Europe they are still dangerous animals, we just don't mention it to their faces.

BS! You need to read history properly!

Originally Posted by eceg

It's tragic that DrBob fails to understand that it's his very own "never forget, never forgive, keep the dangerous animals down" thinking that led to the rise of the nazis with all it's ghastly horrors. It was this thinking that led to the punitive reparations against Germany after WW1 which collapsed German industry and caused hyperinflation and mass unemployment and poverty. It was these extreme conditions
which led to the otherwise unthinkable rise of extreme fascism in a civilized country.

Dear God, are you Krauts still whinging that it wasn't your fault? All this time and you still can't face up to what you did.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Why do I always get the feeling that you have a failed livelihood ?

Just part and parcel of you being wrong about pretty much everything, personality or habit I couldn't say but it's definitely ingrained.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Why do I always get the feeling that you have a failed livelihood ?
(did a german beat you to a job/opportunity ?)

Probably, and then his mind escaped to 1942 and that's where his hate comes from. But the world is different now. Sort of feel sorry for him, I said I'm soft touch.

Originally Posted by eceg

Time for DrBob to get up to date. Today, when most Europeans meet a German they think of Audi, BMW, Mercedes, FC Bayern Munich and the October Beer Fest. Many have moved there or plan to do so to find a well-paid job.
It's tragic that DrBob fails to understand that it's his very own "never forget, never forgive, keep the dangerous animals down" thinking that led to the rise of the nazis with all it's ghastly horrors. It was this thinking that led to the punitive reparations against Germany after WW1 which collapsed German industry and caused hyperinflation and mass unemployment and poverty. It was these extreme conditions
which led to the otherwise unthinkable rise of extreme fascism in a civilized country. Today Germany is one of Israel's staunchest supporters and has friendly relations with Poland (after Chancellor Brandt literally kneed down before them.)
If even Israel and Poland can today live in mutual trust and respect with Germany, why can't DrBob?

You're making a lot of sense for these parts.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Dear God, are you Krauts still whinging that it wasn't your fault? All this time and you still can't face up to what you did.

I believe they have many times officially and otherwise over the years.

Nobody said anything about fault, but a straw man like that is needed by the clearly fading capacities that once produced respecteable posts instead going for bully insults.
Tragic, really.

^ The irony being that Mick cozied up to the Yermans in WW2. Aided and abetted did Mick

A gathering and a fire

Following a morning spent gathering tinder and logs, eight men sat around a fire. As the weather closed in and the temperature dropped, they huddled together to stay warm.
Some more men, attracted by the light of the fire, joined the group. The first group then began to pass back burning embers in order to spread the heat, at which point even more people joined the group.
One of the original gatherers then stood up and said, “Hold on, these guys didn’t help build our fire, nor are they bringing wood to help keep it going. We can’t keep passing out embers like this or our fire will go out”.
He was chastised by his friends who stated that the others came from a camp that didn’t have much wood in the first place, and that others were not trained in wood gathering so it wasn’t their fault. They accused him of being selfish in denying strangers access to their heat source. In order to be seen to be doing the right thing, he sat down and said nothing.
So they carried on handing out the embers until all the wood was gone. The fire duly died down and extinguished and so, everyone perished from the cold……equally!

Originally Posted by eceg

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I'm an Englishman who lived more than 20 years in Germany, not a Kraut.
Young Germans, cannot forget or forgive the nazis for their barbarity and the shame and guilt they brought to Germany. They have a heavy cross to bear for the sins of their grandparents.
The guiding principle of German Democracy is "Never Again". To ensure this "Never Again" Germans try to understand how such unimaginable things happened. They learn that repression such as the punitive reparations can lead to war and thus Germany is now a "softie" on the international stage. Learning from the mistakes of the past in order to avoid repeating them in the future is not whinging or denying those mistakes. Very few young Germans would claim "it wasn't our fault" but they would point out that "it wasn't my personal fault... I was born 50 years after the War ended!". Only a paranoid could regard Germans born after 1935 as dangerous animals.
Germany has faced up to what it did in the War in the best way possible; by having friendly and peaceful relations with all countries.

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Originally Posted by KEVIN2008

Originally Posted by eceg

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I'm an Englishman who lived more than 20 years in Germany, not a Kraut.
Young Germans, cannot forget or forgive the nazis for their barbarity and the shame and guilt they brought to Germany. They have a heavy cross to bear for the sins of their grandparents.
The guiding principle of German Democracy is "Never Again". To ensure this "Never Again" Germans try to understand how such unimaginable things happened. They learn that repression such as the punitive reparations can lead to war and thus Germany is now a "softie" on the international stage. Learning from the mistakes of the past in order to avoid repeating them in the future is not whinging or denying those mistakes. Very few young Germans would claim "it wasn't our fault" but they would point out that "it wasn't my personal fault... I was born 50 years after the War ended!". Only a paranoid could regard Germans born after 1935 as dangerous animals.
Germany has faced up to what it did in the War in the best way possible; by having friendly and peaceful relations with all countries.

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Thanks, KEVIN2008......me too!
Your "wood" story is good but forgets that there is (still !) enough wood for everybody.
It's the greedy and prestige crazy 1% hogging the wood that cause others to freeze.

WIth all respect to the OP, perhaps this thread should be renamed "Always a Crisis in Europe"

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Oh common Betty ! Chill a little. You are stepping over the borders

Herman, consider your leader's EU wants just this. You and Betty angry. So that they can come and claim to bring peace and harmony when both the UK and Germany are on their knees, waiting for the bullet. That comes from behind.

Refugee policy: Austria calls "the end of the invitation policy" Germany in particular, said the Austrian Foreign Minister . Sebastian is convinced : " We are overwhelmed, there are just too many people coming . " 31.10.2015

When will this christian lunatic Merkel give up ?
Where will the next fence be build ?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Oh common Betty ! Chill a little. You are stepping over the borders

Herman, consider your leader's EU wants just this. You and Betty angry. So that they can come and claim to bring peace and harmony when both the UK and Germany are on their knees, waiting for the bullet. That comes from behind.

That will never happen. We will fight them on the Beaches.

That's assuming of course that the Beaches meet EU Standard 104, Paragraph D, subsection viii for Environmental damage protection of Beaches, 2011.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Oh common Betty ! Chill a little. You are stepping over the borders

Herman, consider your leader's EU wants just this. You and Betty angry. So that they can come and claim to bring peace and harmony when both the UK and Germany are on their knees, waiting for the bullet. That comes from behind.

That will never happen. We will fight them on the Beaches.

That's assuming of course that the Beaches meet EU Standard 104, Paragraph D, subsection viii for Environmental damage protection of Beaches, 2011.

European Project... Maggie or Churchill would have rejected it. In the fifties, ideas of European superstate... oops. now europe is a minor player in world economy. How the world changes.

Oh and Free Europe without EU and euro, bring back nation states and border controls.

Get back to EC, yeah cultural exchange is great, police co-op is great, but without any agri subsidies all will be better

Who remembers latest directive by bureaucratic machinery of EU? Well, the taxpayers will feel it, always later on and then some next year and next

Chris Story

Christopher Edward Harle Story FRSA (1938 – 14 July 2010[1]) was an English writer, publisher and government adviser specialising in intelligence and economic affairs, who is perhaps best known for his collaboration with KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn on the 1995 book The Perestroika Deception.

Christopher Story, the son of Colonel Henry Harle Story MC of the Cameronians,[2] was educated at Eton College and Christ Church, Oxford, and then worked as an industrial writer in Canada. In 1963, he formed his own publishing company specialising in intelligence and founded "World Reports Limited" that year.[3]

Since 1970, Story edited and published International Currency Review,[4] which has included the World Bank, the Federal Reserve, and the Bank of England amongst its subscribers.[5] Story became an economic adviser to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher,[6] and in 1991, a year after her resignation, he published Soviet Analyst due to his continued scepticism about Mikhail Gorbachev, perestroika and the official version of events in the Soviet Union.[7] Soviet Analyst was a respected journal whose previous editors included Robert Conquest and Tibor Szamuely,[8]

In May 1992, Story was approached by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn, who supported Story's analysis of the Soviet Union in Soviet Analyst. Golitsyn handed over to Story his memoranda to the CIA, which Story edited and published in 1995 as The Perestroika Deception. In an interview in 1995, Story said: "The purpose of perestroika has been to convince the gullible West that communism is dead, that the Soviet Union has collapsed."[9] Story said that he agreed with Golitsyn that "the Sino-Soviet split was a deception which masked the continuing collaboration between the Russians and China."[10]

In 2002, Story published The European Union Collective, which applied Story's analysis to the European Union. He was also critical of the German intelligence establishment, pointing out its Nazi origins.[11] Story claimed that former British Prime Minister Edward Heath was "recruited by Germans before the war" and was an agent of "the secret Nazi strategic continuum since exposed as the Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD), Dachau."[12]

Story claimed that successive European collective treaties have been routinely procured by means of bribery and that there was a corrupt financial incentive for ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon, which entered into force in 2009. Story claimed that slush fund money was being paid into offshore bank accounts for the top 'facilitators' of the treaty

When you understand that the people behind the EU, the Private Fereral Reserve, and the Soviet Union are all the same people.... you start to get a better understanding of what is really happening in Europe and what the end game is.

Yes.

They failed to see that europe is nothing today, minor market, 20% and some. Europe no longer rules and their idea of global domination is just silly, they still try it in the EU. But the world does not care.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Story claimed that successive European collective treaties have been routinely procured by means of bribery and that there was a corrupt financial incentive for ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon, which entered into force in 2009. Story claimed that slush fund money was being paid into offshore bank accounts for the top 'facilitators' of the treaty

Panam, when you agree with me as in your PM with red, why you sent me red? You are hard to read, man. Inshallal or whatev

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Inshallal or whatev

Definitely whatev or his Bulgarian brother Wherev

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Panam, when you agree with me as in your PM with red, why you sent me red?

Because it was a repo, not a PM. You're welcome

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes.
Europe no longer rules and their idea of global domination is just silly,

Another straw man / lie.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes.
Europe no longer rules and their idea of global domination is just silly,

Another straw man / lie.

Sorry for you, but that is a fact, numbers like, not some koran 'facts', watch bloomberg, man.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes.
Europe no longer rules and their idea of global domination is just silly,

Another straw man / lie.

Sorry for you, but that is a fact, numbers like, not some koran 'facts', watch bloomberg, man.

An old saying: You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes.
Europe no longer rules and their idea of global domination is just silly,

Another straw man / lie.

Sorry for you, but that is a fact, numbers like, not some koran 'facts', watch bloomberg, man.

Show me where Europe (or the EU) has declared they want "global domination".