Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

What people really ought to know about ISIS, as opposed to the corporate media out lies and propaganda that some chose to believe are the facts.




1. The US has supported Al Qaeda and its affiliated organizations for almost half a century since the heyday of the Soviet Afghan war. These affiliated groups are what is known as ISIS.

2. CIA training camps were set up in Pakistan. In the ten year period from 1982 to 1992, some 35,000 jihadists from 43 Islamic countries were recruited by the CIA to fight in the Afghan jihad.

“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the Jihad.”

3. Since the Reagan Administration, Washington has supported the Islamic terror network.

Ronald Reagan called the terrorists “freedom fighters”. The US supplied weapons to the Islamic brigades. It was all for “a good cause”: fighting the Soviet Union and regime change, leading to the demise of a secular government in Afghanistan.



4. Jihadist textbooks were published by the University of Nebraska. “. “The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings”

5. Osama bin Laden, America’s bogyman and founder of Al Qaeda was recruited by the CIA in 1979 at the very outset of the US sponsored jihadist war against Afghanistan . He was 22 years old and was trained in a CIA sponsored guerilla training camp. His name is Tim Osman.

THE ISLAMIC STATE (ISIL)

6. The Islamic State (ISIL) was originally an Al Qaeda affiliated entity created by US intelligence with the support of Britain’s MI6, Israel’s Mossad, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency (GIP), Ri’āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-’Āmah ( رئاسة الاستخبارات العامة‎).

Spot whitie?

7. The ISIL brigades were involved in the US-NATO supported insurgency in Syria directed against the government of Bashar al Assad.

8. NATO and the Turkish High Command were responsible for the recruitment of ISIL and Al Nusrah mercenaries from the outset of the Syrian insurgency in March 2011. According to Israeli intelligence sources, this initiative consisted in:

“a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria. (DEBKAfile, NATO to give rebels anti-tank weapons, August 14, 2011.)



9.There are Western Special Forces and Western intelligence operatives within the ranks of the ISIL. British Special Forces and MI6 have been involved in training jihadist rebels in Syria.

10. Western military specialists on contract to the Pentagon have trained the terrorists in the use of chemical weapons.

“The United States and some European allies are using defense contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to secure chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria, a senior U.S. official and several senior diplomats told CNN Sunday. ( CNN Report, December 9, 2012)

11. The ISIL’s practice of beheadings is part of the US sponsored terrorist training programs implemented in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Rita Katz is a blatant Mossad asset.

12. Recruited by America’s ally, a large number of ISIL mercenaries are convicted criminals released from Saudi prisons on condition they join the ISIL. Saudi death row inmates were recruited to join the terror brigades.

13. Israel has supported the ISIL and Al Nusrah brigades out of the Golan Heights.

Jihadist fighters have met Israeli IDF officers as well as Prime Minister Netanyahu. The IDF top brass tacitly acknowledges that “global jihad elements inside Syria” [ISIL and Al Nusrah] are supported by Israel.


“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Moshe Ya’alon next to a wounded mercenary, Israeli military field hospital at the occupied Golan Heights’ border with Syria, 18 February 2014″

SYRIA AND IRAQ

14 The ISIL are the foot soldiers of the Western military alliance. Their unspoken mandate is to wreck havoc and destruction in Syria and Iraq, acting on behalf of their US sponsors.

15. US Senator John McCain has met up with jihadist terrorist leaders in Syria.


16 The Islamic State (IS) militia, which is currently the alleged target of a US-NATO bombing campaign under a “counter-terrorism” mandate, continues to be supported covertly by the US. Washington and its allies continue to provide military aid to the Islamic State.

17. US and allied bombings are not targeting the ISIL, they are bombing the economic infrastructure of Iraq and Syria including factories and oil refineries.

18. The IS caliphate project is part of a longstanding US foreign policy agenda to carve up Iraq and Syria into separate territories: A Sunni Islamist Caliphate, an Arab Shia Republic, a Republic of Kurdistan.

THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM (GWOT)

19. “The Global War on Terrorism” (GWOT) is presented as a “Clash of Civilizations”, a war between competing values and religions, when in reality it is an outright war of conquest, guided by strategic and economic objectives.

20 U.S. sponsored Al Qaeda terror brigades (covertly supported by Western intelligence) have been deployed in Mali, Niger, Nigeria, the Central African Republic, Somalia and Yemen.

These various affiliated Al Qaeda entities in the Middle East, sub-Saharan Africa and Asia are CIA sponsored “intelligence assets”. They are used by Washington to wreck havoc, create internal conflicts and destabilize sovereign countries.

21 Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shabab in Somalia, the Libya Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) (supported by NATO in 2011), Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Jemaah Islamiah (JI) in Indonesia, among other Al Qaeda affiliated groups are supported covertly by Western intelligence.

22. The US is also supporting Al Qaeda affiliated terrorist organizations in the Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region of China. The underlying objective is to trigger political instability in Western China.

Chinese jihadists are reported to have received “terrorist training” from the Islamic State “in order to conduct attacks in China”. The declared objective of these Chinese-based jihadist entities (which serves the interests of the US) is to establish a Islamic caliphate extending into Western China. (Michel Chossudovsky, America’s War on Terrorism, Global Research, Montreal, 2005, Chapter 2).

HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS

23 The Terrorists R Us: While the US is the unspoken architect of the Islamic State, Obama’s holy mandate is to protect America against ISIL attacks.

24 The homegrown terrorist threat is a fabrication. It is promoted by Western governments and the media with a view to repealing civil liberties and installing a police state. The terror attacks by alleged jihadists and terror warnings are invariably staged events. They are used to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation.

In turn, the arrests, trials and sentences of “Islamic terrorists” sustain the legitimacy of America’s Homeland Security State and law enforcement apparatus, which has become increasingly militarized.

The ultimate objective is to instill in the minds of millions of Americans that the enemy is real and the U.S. Administration will protect the lives of its citizens.

25. The “counter-terrorism” campaign against the Islamic State has contributed to the demonization of Muslims, who in the eyes of Western public opinion are increasingly associated with the jihadists.

26 Anybody who dares to question the validity of the “Global War on Terrorism” is branded a terrorist and subjected to the anti-terrorist laws.

The ultimate objective of the “Global War on Terrorism” is to subdue the citizens, totally depoliticize social life in America, prevent people from thinking and conceptualizing, from analyzing facts and challenging the legitimacy of the inquisitorial social order which rules America.

The Obama Administration has imposed a diabolical consensus with the support of its allies, not to mention the complicit role of the United Nations Security Council. The Western media has embraced the consensus; it has described the Islamic State as an independent entity, an outside enemy which threatens the Western World.

I was wondering where you could get such an utter load of bollocks then I realised it's the bloke who reckons the US knew about 9/11 and the Tsunami beforehand.

I thought the rule was that if something has been deleted repeatedly by the moderators, and that "poster" kept persisting, then that poster was slung into jail???


Anyway - so you don't try to talk about the content, or dispute any of the documented facts in there, just go on your typical Tin Foil Hat attacks? All you can do still? Back on block again. Thought you would be different without your fan snubb, but no.

Oh... and 9/11 was an inside job. Categorically. 100%.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

What people really ought to know about ISIS, as opposed to the corporate media out lies and propaganda that some chose to believe are the facts.




1. The US has supported Al Qaeda and its affiliated organizations for almost half a century since the heyday of the Soviet Afghan war. These affiliated groups are what is known as ISIS.

2. CIA training camps were set up in Pakistan. In the ten year period from 1982 to 1992, some 35,000 jihadists from 43 Islamic countries were recruited by the CIA to fight in the Afghan jihad.

“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the Jihad.”

3. Since the Reagan Administration, Washington has supported the Islamic terror network.

Ronald Reagan called the terrorists “freedom fighters”. The US supplied weapons to the Islamic brigades. It was all for “a good cause”: fighting the Soviet Union and regime change, leading to the demise of a secular government in Afghanistan.



4. Jihadist textbooks were published by the University of Nebraska. “. “The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings”

5. Osama bin Laden, America’s bogyman and founder of Al Qaeda was recruited by the CIA in 1979 at the very outset of the US sponsored jihadist war against Afghanistan . He was 22 years old and was trained in a CIA sponsored guerilla training camp. His name is Tim Osman.

THE ISLAMIC STATE (ISIL)

6. The Islamic State (ISIL) was originally an Al Qaeda affiliated entity created by US intelligence with the support of Britain’s MI6, Israel’s Mossad, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency (GIP), Ri’āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-’Āmah ( رئاسة الاستخبارات العامة‎).

Spot whitie?

7. The ISIL brigades were involved in the US-NATO supported insurgency in Syria directed against the government of Bashar al Assad.

8. NATO and the Turkish High Command were responsible for the recruitment of ISIL and Al Nusrah mercenaries from the outset of the Syrian insurgency in March 2011. According to Israeli intelligence sources, this initiative consisted in:

“a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria. (DEBKAfile, NATO to give rebels anti-tank weapons, August 14, 2011.)



9.There are Western Special Forces and Western intelligence operatives within the ranks of the ISIL. British Special Forces and MI6 have been involved in training jihadist rebels in Syria.

10. Western military specialists on contract to the Pentagon have trained the terrorists in the use of chemical weapons.

“The United States and some European allies are using defense contractors to train Syrian rebels on how to secure chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria, a senior U.S. official and several senior diplomats told CNN Sunday. ( CNN Report, December 9, 2012)

11. The ISIL’s practice of beheadings is part of the US sponsored terrorist training programs implemented in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Rita Katz is a blatant Mossad asset.

12. Recruited by America’s ally, a large number of ISIL mercenaries are convicted criminals released from Saudi prisons on condition they join the ISIL. Saudi death row inmates were recruited to join the terror brigades.

13. Israel has supported the ISIL and Al Nusrah brigades out of the Golan Heights.

Jihadist fighters have met Israeli IDF officers as well as Prime Minister Netanyahu. The IDF top brass tacitly acknowledges that “global jihad elements inside Syria” [ISIL and Al Nusrah] are supported by Israel.


“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Moshe Ya’alon next to a wounded mercenary, Israeli military field hospital at the occupied Golan Heights’ border with Syria, 18 February 2014″

SYRIA AND IRAQ

14 The ISIL are the foot soldiers of the Western military alliance. Their unspoken mandate is to wreck havoc and destruction in Syria and Iraq, acting on behalf of their US sponsors.

15. US Senator John McCain has met up with jihadist terrorist leaders in Syria.


16 The Islamic State (IS) militia, which is currently the alleged target of a US-NATO bombing campaign under a “counter-terrorism” mandate, continues to be supported covertly by the US. Washington and its allies continue to provide military aid to the Islamic State.

17. US and allied bombings are not targeting the ISIL, they are bombing the economic infrastructure of Iraq and Syria including factories and oil refineries.

18. The IS caliphate project is part of a longstanding US foreign policy agenda to carve up Iraq and Syria into separate territories: A Sunni Islamist Caliphate, an Arab Shia Republic, a Republic of Kurdistan.

THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM (GWOT)

19. “The Global War on Terrorism” (GWOT) is presented as a “Clash of Civilizations”, a war between competing values and religions, when in reality it is an outright war of conquest, guided by strategic and economic objectives.

20 U.S. sponsored Al Qaeda terror brigades (covertly supported by Western intelligence) have been deployed in Mali, Niger, Nigeria, the Central African Republic, Somalia and Yemen.

These various affiliated Al Qaeda entities in the Middle East, sub-Saharan Africa and Asia are CIA sponsored “intelligence assets”. They are used by Washington to wreck havoc, create internal conflicts and destabilize sovereign countries.

21 Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shabab in Somalia, the Libya Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) (supported by NATO in 2011), Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Jemaah Islamiah (JI) in Indonesia, among other Al Qaeda affiliated groups are supported covertly by Western intelligence.

22. The US is also supporting Al Qaeda affiliated terrorist organizations in the Xinjiang Uighur autonomous region of China. The underlying objective is to trigger political instability in Western China.

Chinese jihadists are reported to have received “terrorist training” from the Islamic State “in order to conduct attacks in China”. The declared objective of these Chinese-based jihadist entities (which serves the interests of the US) is to establish a Islamic caliphate extending into Western China. (Michel Chossudovsky, America’s War on Terrorism, Global Research, Montreal, 2005, Chapter 2).

HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS

23 The Terrorists R Us: While the US is the unspoken architect of the Islamic State, Obama’s holy mandate is to protect America against ISIL attacks.

24 The homegrown terrorist threat is a fabrication. It is promoted by Western governments and the media with a view to repealing civil liberties and installing a police state. The terror attacks by alleged jihadists and terror warnings are invariably staged events. They are used to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation.

In turn, the arrests, trials and sentences of “Islamic terrorists” sustain the legitimacy of America’s Homeland Security State and law enforcement apparatus, which has become increasingly militarized.

The ultimate objective is to instill in the minds of millions of Americans that the enemy is real and the U.S. Administration will protect the lives of its citizens.

25. The “counter-terrorism” campaign against the Islamic State has contributed to the demonization of Muslims, who in the eyes of Western public opinion are increasingly associated with the jihadists.

26 Anybody who dares to question the validity of the “Global War on Terrorism” is branded a terrorist and subjected to the anti-terrorist laws.

The ultimate objective of the “Global War on Terrorism” is to subdue the citizens, totally depoliticize social life in America, prevent people from thinking and conceptualizing, from analyzing facts and challenging the legitimacy of the inquisitorial social order which rules America.

The Obama Administration has imposed a diabolical consensus with the support of its allies, not to mention the complicit role of the United Nations Security Council. The Western media has embraced the consensus; it has described the Islamic State as an independent entity, an outside enemy which threatens the Western World.

Sure...
They have a history, worldwide, of such dubious activity.
Have to create and maintain an enemy/boogieman to perpetuate the game....

It's what they're all about.
And most circles turn a blind eye to such activity.....buying into the propaganda.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Sure...
They have a history, worldwide, of such dubious activity.
Have to create and maintain an enemy/boogieman to perpetuate the game....

It's what they're all about.
And most circles turn a blind eye to such activity.....buying into the propaganda.

Indeed. Guess they have never read the Zbigniew Brzezinski's book where he he outlines exactly what he did in the past, what he would do in the future, why they do it, who benefits, and also the fact that the vast majority of the world are basically too fricking dumb to cotton on to it. Kissinger wrote a very similar book as well, but that was even worse in the end, albeit a lot of what he said they would do, so far, they have done. Not bad for a Soviet spy, codename Bor.

I like to keep an open mind about these things.....the truth is often stranger than we can conceive of. Here's the other side of the argument :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allega...sama_bin_Laden

The Big Zbig with his main man, Tim Osman... aka Osama Bin Laden.

Search Wikileaks for all the documents you could possibly dream of that show categorically that Osama Bin Laden was CIA asset Tim Osman, who came to the US to tour army bases, for training, and even went to the white house. All there on stamped, verified, internal top secret leaked documents.

Some more insights from the Washington Post :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a64_story.html

A snip :

Zarqawi was, at the time of the bombing, the head of a particularly vicious terrorist network called al-Qaeda in Iraq. But the Jordanians had known him back in the days when he was Ahmad the hoodlum, a high school dropout with a reputation as a heavy drinker and a brawler. They had watched him wander off to Afghanistan in the late 1980s to fight the communists, then return as a battle-hardened religious fanatic. After a first try at terrorism, he had vanished into one of Jordan’s darkest prisons. This time, he emerged as a leader of men.


Still, few would have ever heard of Zarqawi had Washington not intervened. His terrorist career was at a dead end when the George W. Bush administration inadvertently made him a terrorist superstar, declaring to the world in 2003 that this then-unknown Jordanian was the link between Iraq’s dictatorship and the plotters behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The claim was wrong, yet, weeks later, when U.S. troops invaded Iraq, the newly famous and well-funded terrorist gained a battleground and a cause and soon thousands of followers. Over three tumultuous years, he intentionally pushed Iraq to the brink of sectarian war by unleashing wave after wave of savage attacks on Shiite civilians in their mosques, bazaars and schools.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I thought the rule was that if something has been deleted repeatedly by the moderators, and that "poster" kept persisting, then that poster was slung into jail???


Anyway - so you don't try to talk about the content, or dispute any of the documented facts in there, just go on your typical Tin Foil Hat attacks? All you can do still? Back on block again. Thought you would be different without your fan snubb, but no.

Oh... and 9/11 was an inside job. Categorically. 100%.

Yeah it's good that you sneak a few bits in there that are documented, it's just that the descriptions have been altered and they're buried amongst a pile of fabricated conspiratorial crap.

Everyone knows the US supported Bin Laden.

They same way they know the US supported Saddam.

And the same way they know the US negotiated with the Taliban to try and get a pipeline built.

These are documented facts.

What you are choosing to ignore as that all three turned on them and were no longer friends.

You have this feeble-minded idea that the US paid Obama to carry out 9/11 or some such crap, when he'd been orchestrating terror attacks on the US for years.

You're simply clueless, but I'll grant you, you have a very fertile imagination to go with it.

David Petraeus' bright idea: give terrorists weapons to beat terrorists | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | The Guardian

Just remember, traitor David Petraeus suggested getting Al Qaeda to fight ISIS on the US's behalf. How was that supposed to work? AQ who allegedly hit the world trade center a couple of times and is the arch (but now forgotten) enemy of the USA, who hate the USA, have vowed to destroy the USA.... can be called up and

Kerry - Heh, if we give you a load of guns and bombs will you forget all about our past differences, and fight with us against your Muslim Brothers ISIS who also hate us?

Rag HEad - Well, we do hate you according to the media, and we allegedly did 9/11, so we're not sure about that

Kerry - Oh go on - Puuuurrrllleeeease. Do us a favour. Oh go on...

Rag HEad - Yeah go on then. Send us a billion dollars in cash and weapons and we will help you out.


............Its a gameshow to keep idiots scared and the owners of the world in power, with lovely wars and a closing net of tyranny around the west.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Oh... and 9/11 was an inside job. Categorically. 100%.

Now you just broke your previous post, sorry mate

And tell that to my friend 9/11

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Oh... and 9/11 was an inside job. Categorically. 100%.

Now you just broke your previous post, sorry mate

And tell that to my friend 9/11

Why? What does allegedly mean then? AQ was an invention of the US, notably Zbigniew Brzezinski who today, and always has been, obombas mentor and handler. ISIS is also a creation by the same people. 9/11 was an inside job with no links at all to the accused AQ. When I say "AQ who allegedly hit the world trade center a couple of times" and "and we allegedly did 9/11" it is clear that I mean that they are alleged to have done it. They didn't, but they are alleged to have done it by the media and Washington cover up.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

9/11 was an inside job

Oh dear

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by pseudolus

9/11 was an inside job

Oh dear

More clear evidence pointing towards that, than the created to fail report that you seem to believe.

So rather go to south america like all you nazi war criminals do.. did? Nice weather in Buenos Aires?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

So rather go to south america like all you nazi war criminals do.. did? Nice weather in Buenos Aires?

You mean the Nazis that the US and UK got out of Germany under operation Paper Clip? The ones who were funded by the US, especially the Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford Foundations in their eugenics? The ones who set up the EU? The ones who are the inspiration to the Ukranian Nazis who the US are funding, arming, and controlling? Those Nazis?

^Just humour him gently.

I know who set up what was to become EU of today, the grand plan for European supremacy. Right, that failed. Sorry. Not sorry. How could europe have supremacy, europe is over, it's gone Fokin losers

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I know who set up what was to become EU of today, the grand plan for European supremacy. Right, that failed. Sorry. Not sorry. How could europe have supremacy, europe is over, it's gone Fokin losers

No. It was never about European Supremacy. It was about the destruction of the nation states of Europe so that the US or Europe could be easily shunted into the One World Government. It matters not to the globalists whether it was Britain who achieved that, with their Empire, Hitler with his advances, the EU, ASEAN and North American Union.... all means to an end.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^Just humour him gently.

I'm not replying for his benefit, but for the benefit of others who are not quite as much hard line believers of the proven liars of Washington and London - aka politicians and their media.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

destruction of the nation states of Europe

Glad we agree

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I know who set up what was to become EU of today, the grand plan for European supremacy. Right, that failed. Sorry. Not sorry. How could europe have supremacy, europe is over, it's gone Fokin losers

For many centuries Europeans have ruled the known world. Taking it in turn. The countries have risen, decayed and fallen. In each of their "days of empire" they were accepted world leaders. What they haven't done and never will, is disappear.

To suggest they are losers indicates great ignorance or an inferiority complex..

Originally Posted by OhOh

For many centuries Europeans have ruled the known world

True, Europeans had their turn (still, maybe less than Chinese or Koreans or Japanese or Arabs), but now, this day, Europeans do not deserve anything more than they work for. Innovation and product development is in US, UK, SE and E Asia. Lights off europe

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I know who set up what was to become EU of today, the grand plan for European supremacy. Right, that failed. Sorry. Not sorry. How could europe have supremacy, europe is over, it's gone Fokin losers

For many centuries Europeans have ruled the known world. Taking it in turn. The countries have risen, decayed and fallen. In each of their "days of empire" they were accepted world leaders. What they haven't done and never will, is disappear.

To suggest they are losers indicates great ignorance or an inferiority complex..

Indeed... the owners of the world, on the whole, are people from Europe. People get confused with the USA...using the old Exceptionalism ruse to convince them and everyone else that it is a good thing.

All you euros can do is to promote you are better than anyone else fake Volkswagen until US finds out you are cheating, no euro agency cared about that because you are all bent