Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Islamic State deputy leader 'killed in Iraq air strike'

The second-in-command of Islamic State (IS) has been killed in a US-led coalition air strike in northern Iraq, the Iraqi ministry of defence says.

Abdul Rahman Mustafa Mohammed, also known as Abu Alaa al-Afari, was at a mosque near Tal Afar that was targeted, spokesman Brig-Gen Tahsin Ibrahim said.

However, the US military later denied coalition planes had attacked a mosque.

In recent weeks, there were unconfirmed reports that Afari had taken temporary charge of IS operations.

Iraqi sources claimed IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been incapacitated as a result of an air strike in Iraq in March.

Gen Ibrahim told the BBC that Afari was killed alongside dozens of militants who he had been meeting at the al-Shuhada (Martyrs) mosque in the village of al-Iyadhiya, near Tal Afar, where he was reportedly a well-known preacher.

Tal Afar, in the northern province of Nineveh, was seized by IS in June 2014.

Video as well...
Islamic State deputy leader 'killed in Iraq air strike' - BBC News

Does it really matter if high ranking officers in ISIS are killed? There always seems to be 10 replacements waiting in the wings.

ISIS on the move again to take over Ramadi.

The French seem to be making more raids on ISIS than Britain.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-raids-Britain

Ramadi has fallen to ISIS thanks to the chickenshit Iraqi army. Too bad the US spent $25 billion training them. What a waste of the tax payer's money and I wonder what that money could have done if spent on the US infrastructure.

Originally Posted by OhOh

"The ‘psychological victory’ of US special forces who assassinated a senior ISIS leader in Syria will not have much effect on the battlefield, defense analyst Ivan Eland told RT,

This guy was the cheif money coordinator for ISIS. I understand the computers and other intelligence seized at the compound could be very helpful.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Ramadi has fallen to ISIS thanks to the chickenshit Iraqi army. Too bad the US spent $25 billion training them. What a waste of the tax payer's money and I wonder what that money could have done if spent on the US infrastructure.

The Iraqi army has inadvertently become the main arms supplier to IS

^ And one of the main suppliers of manpower.

OK, so how long now before ISIS moves to Bagdad, or will they just continue taking the smaller towns and cities? Lots of options now for ISIS, but few for Iraq or the coalition.

You might want to ask your govt why Iraq is so fucked up now.

Don't need to since it is pretty obvious. Remember though, many other nations took part in the destabilization of Iraq.

Well if you can look into what Emma skye Senior adviser to top brass generals of USA says come back and tell us what you think.

The obama admin fucked it right up.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Well if you can look into what Emma skye Senior adviser to top brass generals of USA says come back and tell us what you think.

The obama admin fucked it right up.

Oh don't talk shit, Bush was the one who fucked it up by taking out Saddam and putting a corrupt Shi'a in charge.

IS was born on his watch.

Just sit back and leave the Sunni and Shi'a to duke it out, no point in getting in the firing line, they're both ungrateful bastards anyway.

Bollocks, every fucker blames bush for everything, the present Admin did a runner.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Bollocks, every fucker blames bush for everything, the present Admin did a runner.

I suggest that you go and do some homework on the history of IS and Maliki's leadership, specifically his refusal to accept US troops unless it was under Iraqi law, before you continue talking out of your arse.

And don't forget which gormless c u n t put Maliki in charge.

You clearly don't have a fucking clue on the subject.

Ye harry as normal your the Man.

So the USA where aware of the threat from Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999 and they joined up with Al Qaeda in 2004 and had a very strong support base in Iraq, along comes obomba and decides to get out of Iraq and focus on Afganistan that has a strong force of Al Qaeda who then travel to Iraq and become ISIS.

Obomba advisers say his strategy is wrong and then with the leaving of Iraq four years later he sends troops back to Iraq to train iraq forces, to late ISIS is on the rampage.

Whilst Maliki was there the threat of the terrorists was minimum, he left and bang the shit hits the fan.

Yep all fault of the Bush admin.

The world got involved in something they didn't have a clue what the outcome would be, and here we are now, the flood gates have opened.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

along comes obomba and decides to get out of Iraq and focus on Afganistan that has a strong force of Al Qaeda who then travel to Iraq and become ISIS.

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.[1
U.S.?Iraq Status of Forces Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Iraqui Govt. refused to give immunity to any remaining US troops, who could have faced prosecution for Iraqi authorities. The only way U.S. combat troops can go back in is if they are invited by the Iraqis.

Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, in an attempt to lay the blame on the current crisis on the Prime Minister of Iraq Nouri Al-Malik, advanced the administration’s claim that they diligently tried and failed to get a status of forces agreement with Iraqi government so they could not leave forces.

Tuesday on “Fox News Radio,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)49%
said Donilon’s excuse “falls into the category of ‘if you like your healthcare you can keep it” saying it was a “complete rewriting of history.”

Graham told the story of his personal role in the negotiations during the draw down of U.S. forces in Iraq. He said when he and Sens. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)45%
and Joe Lieberman (I-CT) were in Iraq, Malik agreed to a “follow up force” being left in theater and it was the Obama administration’s intentional refusal to give the Iraqis a solid troop number that destroyed the deal.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2014/...ces-agreement/

=Horatio Hornblower;3018318]
Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, in an attempt to lay the blame on the current crisis on the Prime Minister of Iraq Nouri Al-Malik, advanced the administration’s claim that they diligently tried and failed to get a status of forces agreement with Iraqi government so they could not leave forces.

Tuesday on “Fox News Radio,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)49%
said Donilon’s excuse “falls into the category of ‘if you like your healthcare you can keep it” saying it was a “complete rewriting of history.”

Graham told the story of his personal role in the negotiations during the draw down of U.S. forces in Iraq. He said when he and Sens. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)45%
and Joe Lieberman (I-CT) were in Iraq, Malik agreed to a “follow up force” being left in theater and it was the Obama administration’s intentional refusal to give the Iraqis a solid troop number that destroyed the deal.

Graham said...McCain said.... Then why didn't Malik step up and say so publically?
Where's the beef, L'il Lindsey?

And by the way, Breitbart is your source...? Please get a real source, maybe step up to Drudge.

Graham: White House Lying About Iraq Status of Forces Agreement - Breitbart[/QUOTE]

Go inside the link and watch the video,that's unless its his double.

And then we have the present Obomba admin making statements like this.

‘OVERALL, YES.’ WHITE HOUSE INSISTS STRATEGY AGAINST ISIS IS WORKING
During the White House press briefing today, ABC News reporter Jon Karl questioned Press Secretary Josh Earnest about President Obama’s current strategy against ISIS, asking if he believed that the president’s strategy was succeeding.

“Overall, yes,” Earnest said after hesitating for a moment, admitting that although Ramadi had fallen into the hands of Islamic State terrorists, there had been other successful operations in Iraq.

“The strategy that the president has laid has enjoyed periods of progress,” Earnest added.

Earnest referred to Obama’s October 2014 statement that there would be “periods of setback” during the fight against ISIS.

He also assured reporters that Obama was deeply involved in the fight, insisting that he was asking about the operation “just about every day.”

After fielding several questions about the fall of Ramadi, Earnest questioned reporters about their persistence.

“Are we going to light our hair on fire every time there’s a setback?” he asked.

?Overall, Yes.? White House Insists Strategy Against ISIS is Working - Breitbart

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Sounds like your standard, run-of-the-mill template for a political answer. Do you think that, when asked about the success of an overall stratagey in light of a recent military failure, any US Administration would have answered substantially differently. How far back do you remember?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Well if you can look into what Emma skye Senior adviser to top brass generals of USA says come back and tell us what you think.

The obama admin fucked it right up.

Oh don't talk shit, Bush was the one who fucked it up by taking out Saddam and putting a corrupt Shi'a in charge.

IS was born on his watch.

Just sit back and leave the Sunni and Shi'a to duke it out, no point in getting in the firing line, they're both ungrateful bastards anyway.

You don't think Obama helped by pulling all the military out before Iraq was capable of taking care of it's self, and let ISIS get there feet on the ground in Syria and Iraq before he committed any military action to stop them.