Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Syrian army, Islamic State wage fierce battle in south Damascus

Reuters Staff
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BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Syrian army and its allies engaged in a fierce battle on Saturday with Islamic State fighters in an enclave south of Damascus held by the jihadist group.

Reuters witnesses, a war monitor and state television reported intense fighting including artillery bombardment and small arms fire.

The army had made broad advances, said state television. The monitor, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said it had gained control of several buildings in the densely built-up area.

Footage on state TV showed tanks rolling across an open area of fields to the edge of the enclave, which includes parts of al-Qadam district, al-Hajar al-Aswad and the Yarmouk Palestinian refugee camp.

It showed uniformed soldiers moving through battered streets with dense clouds of black smoke overhead, while the whizz and crash of artillery fire, the rattle of small arms fire and deep echoing blasts could all be heard.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad this month defeated rebels in their biggest stronghold near Damascus in eastern Ghouta, and has since then focussed on ending resistance in several smaller pockets near the Syrian capital.

Islamic State lost most of its territory in Syria last year in the face of two rapid offensives, one by the Syrian army backed by Russia and Iran, and the other by an alliance of Kurdish and Arab militias backed by the United States.

It has held onto some areas of desert in eastern Syria, as well as to the pocket in south Damascus and one other area by the borders with Jordan and Israel which is held by a group that has pledged allegiance to it.

Russia’s entry into the war in 2015 has propelled Assad to a succession of victories that have dashed any rebel hopes of ousting him militarily, but rebel groups still hold large swathes of northwest and southwest Syria.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday after meeting in Moscow with his counterparts from Turkey and Iran that the three countries need to help Syria’s government clear its country of terrorists.

Turkish Foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu meanwhile said Russia, Iran and Turkey needed to work with the United Nations to ensure the legitimacy of any political solution in Syria as any military solution would be illegal and unsustainable.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mi...HZ0LV?rpc=401&

If that's accurate the IS is in trouble (painful, not mortal), and really don't want to compound it by going the wrong way (south of Damascus toward Israel), that would make for a distinctly unpleasant sandwich filling.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Oh come on the ameristanis and their "allies" won eastern Syria from IS months ago. The blond buffoon said so.



Turkey needs to continue with it's previous statements to Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. The UN backed commission wants to split the country up or insert it's favourite head-choppers in to continue the "legitimate fight of the Syrian people" or some such twaddle.

You mean to stop Assad slaughtering absolutely *everyone* who disagrees with his dictatorship?

Fuck, even his old man never went that far.

I hope you're not expecting a democracy to sprout in the Middle East, Harry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You mean to stop Assad slaughtering absolutely *everyone* who disagrees with his dictatorship?

Fuck, even his old man never went that far.

^Mr. Clue has clue on every Dictator around the world.

Really, as I wrote here the other day about NK/SK concert "We are one" at Pyongyang, I saw so many henchmen with Kalashnikov in audience and behind each performer... https://teakdoor.com/world-news/18479...h-korea-4.html (Historic meeting between North & South Korea leaders kicks off)

Originally Posted by Neverna

I hope you're not expecting a democracy to sprout in the Middle East, Harry.

There already is one, and has been for many years.

Which kinda shows how little you know.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Mr. Clue has clue on every Dictator around the world.

Really, as I wrote here the other day about NK/SK concert "We are one" at Pyongyang, I saw so many henchmen with Kalashnikov in audience and behind each performer...

Can you read, dimwit?

What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Oh come on the ameristanis and their "allies" won eastern Syria from IS months ago. The blond buffoon said so.



Turkey needs to continue with it's previous statements to Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. The UN backed commission wants to split the country up or insert it's favourite head-choppers in to continue the "legitimate fight of the Syrian people" or some such twaddle.

Yes good idea, the Brits tried that on a grander scale and it worked out fine.

Originally Posted by jabir

it worked out fine.

Some made £millions, Vicky and Liz got a few more baubles and the odd India/Arabian stud stallion, to improve their blood lines. What more can a lady want.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You mean to stop Assad slaughtering absolutely *everyone* who disagrees with his dictatorship?

He has to be a dictator, hasn't he? Otherwise why would the "international community" (i.e. 5% of the world population) want him out?
They (the 5%) always do not mind to lay down the lives (not their own) to lay off a dictator, do they?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

He has to be a dictator, hasn't he? Otherwise why would the "international community" (i.e. 5% of the world population) want him out?
They (the 5%) always do not mind to lay down the lives (not their own) to lay off a dictator, do they?

Another clueless moron who has no understanding whatsoever of Syrian demographics....

Originally Posted by OhOh

If everyone has been slaughtered, how is it the Syrian population that stayed behind and the returnees, are being filmed celebrating in many Syrian cities, is it all CGI?
Some countries, including Syria and Lebenon, in the ME have as 'arry suggests had democracy for decades. Not the proven, bought and paid for by the puppet masters, sham western type.

Using Syria (a country that has used violence to oppress the majority since Assad's dad was in power) and Lebanon (the Shi'a minority of whom blew up the former Prime Minister they didn't like) demonstrates that your knowledge of the region is on a par with Klondyke's.

I'll grant you that Lebanon has a lot more nuances than Syria, in that while the Muslims outnumber other religions and sects, they are split equally between Shi'a and Sunni minorities, and thus it relies on Iran and Syria's influence (and armaments) to prop up the Shi'a there.

But really.... Syria, a democracy?

You don't honestly believe that shit do you? I thought you were just trying a wind up.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But really.... Syria, a democracy?

You don't honestly believe that shit do you?

'arry my belief in democracy has dimmed over the years. The methods of abuse by those who profess accountability and trust, in and for their actions/results, has gone. I now look for measurable delivery, of the promises made.

Western democracy has failed to deliver to the average Joe in the street, financially, socially or spiritually, Asian democracy is providing delivered success in measurable steps. There are many more steps to go, but they are improving year after year. The western model of society is broken and declining too rapidly. I worry more and more for my grown children's futures, back from once I came.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Asian democracy is providing delivered success in measurable steps.

Where's that then?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Where's that then?

Read the financial papers, see whose expanding production, whose GDP is increasing, whose workers are being paid more than last year, whose companies are expanding, whose companies are being stopped, for security/fear of losing alleged strategic dominance, from buying some western companies.

Those counties are Asian not western.

The high tech western companies are losing money or are being shown to be liars and cheats. The western institutions are unaffordable or bound by self imposed red tape. Their societies live in fear, of finances, of safety, of declining standards in so many areas. Why, because they cannot afford to fix their problems, because the wealth has been stolen from the masses and placed into the hands of an unexceptional few. Spreading the rewards to the many enables the many to decide when and what to buy, that choice is becoming less and less available generally and is growing not lessening.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Read the financial papers, see whose expanding production, whose GDP is increasing, whose workers are being paid more than last year, whose companies are expanding, whose companies are being stopped, for security/fear of losing alleged strategic dominance, from buying some western companies.

Those counties are Asian not western.

The high tech western companies are losing money or are being shown to be liars and cheats. The western institutions are unaffordable or bound by self imposed red tape. Their societies live in fear, of finances, of safety, of declining standards in so many areas. Why, because they cannot afford to fix their problems, because the wealth has been stolen from the masses and placed into the hands of an unexceptional few. Spreading the rewards to the many enables the many to decide when and what to buy, that choice is becoming less and less available generally and is growing not lessening.

I'll repeat the question, because you're waffling again.

Originally Posted by OhOh (What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?)
Asian democracy is providing delivered success in measurable steps.

Where's that then?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

He has to be a dictator, hasn't he? Otherwise why would the "international community" (i.e. 5% of the world population) want him out?
They (the 5%) always do not mind to lay down the lives (not their own) to lay off a dictator, do they?

Nothing wrong with fighting to the last drop of other peoples' blood.

Originally Posted by jabir

Nothing wrong with ordering others to fight to the last drop of other peoples' blood.

FIFY.

Putin's pilots have been hammering ISIS



The Kremlin has had Syria on lockdown for nearly three years with its mighty army, air force and navy running the show.

Since Vladimir Putin intervened in support of the Bassar Al-Assad’s regime in 2015, the tide of the Syrian civil war has changed dramatically.

Pro-government forces now control 78,000 sq km compared to 19,000 sq km before Putin got involved.

Moscow's devastating air power has almost wiped out the opposition in urban centres.

Human rights organisations accuse the Kremlin of killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians – particularly during the Aleppo offensive.

In December it emerged more than 48,000 Russians have seen combat action and pilots had flown some 34,000 operations.

Putin announced a partial withdrawal at the time as he declared victory, but said Russian troops would maintain a presence at the Hemeimeem air base and a naval facility in the port of Tartus.

“Your heroic actions and professionalism helped preserve the Syrian state, stop mass killings, executions and terror against civilians,” Putin told hundreds of soldiers.

The exact numbers of Russian troops stationed in Syria has always been a closely guarded secret but it’s thought thousands remain, on top of the air force and navy.

It emerged a Brit submarine was hunted by the Kremlin’s lethal “black hole” stealth vessel in the Mediterranean as it headed near the Syrian coast before the raid.

Putin’s naval presence has included three of the new Buyan-m-class corvettes, four Kilo-class submarines and one Kirov-class battlecruiser.

The air power has included 14 strategic TU-22M3s, 12 tactical Su-24M2s and 12 Mi-24P/35m attack helicopters.

Assad’s regime launched 40 missiles in a failed bit to stop the 105 dropped by allied fighter jets which destroyed three chemical weapons sites.

And now it’s reported that Russia now plans to deliver S-300 surface-to-air missiles to Assad in what could be seen as a sign to stop further US action.

Russia has perhaps unsurprisingly gained huge clout in Syria with its mining and oil companies reportedly cementing lucrative contracts.

Up to 85% of Russian air crew and 90% of its frontline divisions are said have gained battle experience in Syria.

Read more:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...Vladimir-Putin

Yes and they've been hammering the Syrian people too, dumbass.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes and they've been hammering the Syrian people too, dumbass.

I'm sure they think it's worth it.

It has to be a big shock for some to see what Putiun has achieved, despite the poor state some 20 years ago, with the troublesome Russian history, despite all the hampering by the powers that be.

And who looks sometimes on some world forums (not necesserily TD), youtube, etc, may see how huge approval at world public (not necesserily "international community") he is enjoying, never such a case in history...

And that all without big mouth and world propaganda as the other do.

This has to bring a shiver to many...

Originally Posted by OhOh

I'm sure they think it's worth it.

Well the word is "He", not they.