The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[MrG]

You have a lot of crazies in the US all of whom seem to be able to pick up a gun and kill with tedious regularity if they so choose.
Admission of the reality will lead to acceptance and then maybe, just maybe, your people might achieve progress.
Frankly, I think you are all a bit too, well, stupid.

It is stupid, but so is your "reasoning".
If you bothered to educate yourself on the subject you would find that roughly 85% of the population want gun control. About 70% of NRA members want gun control.
The reason nothing happens is because the government is corrupted by money from, among other places, the NRA.
Consider yourself slightly more educated on the subject than you were berfore your inane post.

[Seekingasylum]

^ It is going to be happening a lot more in your homeland and all of Euroland as well. Standby the party has just begun.

You gormless idiot. The violent death count in Europe pales into utter insignificance when compared to the US and, indeed, when one takes out of the equation doctrinal terrorism it is practically non-existent in many European countries.

Crazies + unlimited gun ownership = the US.

Its so simple, really, even septics should be able to grasp it but then, they never do so I suppose it must resolve to some innate, congenital stupidity, a trait you reflect so admirably.

[Seekingasylum]

You have a lot of crazies in the US all of whom seem to be able to pick up a gun and kill with tedious regularity if they so choose.
Admission of the reality will lead to acceptance and then maybe, just maybe, your people might achieve progress.
Frankly, I think you are all a bit too, well, stupid.

It is stupid, but so is your "reasoning".
If you bothered to educate yourself on the subject you would find that roughly 85% of the population want gun control. About 70% of NRA members want gun control.
The reason nothing happens is because the government is corrupted by money from, among other places, the NRA.
Consider yourself slightly more educated on the subject than you were berfore your inane post.

Ahh, so the majority and your President want gun control but it doesn't happen because of a " corrupt conspiracy " which has bought Congress, the Senate, the White House and every fucking state assembly in the entire fucking US of A?

RightyO, I geddit now. Thanks for that.

Daft as brushes, the lot of you.

[baldrick]

travel warnings for tourists to the USA

Tim Fischer urges DFAT to 'muscle up' and change US travel advice to reflect gun violence



Former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer has called on the Federal Government to alter its travel advice to the United States to reflect the rising death toll due to gun violence.
At least 14 people are dead following a shooting attack at a disability centre near the US city of Los Angeles.
The shooting comes less than a week after a gunman killed three people and wounded nine in a shooting rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs.
Mr Fischer said the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade needed to "muscle up" its travel advice and outline the danger of gun violence.
He told the ABC he was "tired of the US chucking handballs" over danger in Australia when warnings issued to Australians did not reflect the reality of the American situation.
"You are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita, per thousand people, and that varies state by state," he said.
"Those midwest states are shockers and let's start highlighting this. Let's start drilling down into this... It's time to call out the US."
Mr Fischer also condemned the "one-way" alliance with the US, calling on the cancellation of some delegates' travel.
No comment was provided by Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's office.
In the US, president Barack Obama said there were steps that could be taken to make Americans safer.
"We don't yet know what the motives of the shooters are, but what we do know is there are steps we can take to make Americans safer and that we should come together in a bipartisan basis at every level of government to make these rare as opposed to normal," he said, speaking after the disability centre attack.

[bsnub]

You gormless idiot.

You have a lot of crazies in the US all of whom seem to be able to pick up a gun and kill with tedious regularity if they so choose.
Admission of the reality will lead to acceptance and then maybe, just maybe, your people might achieve progress.
Frankly, I think you are all a bit too, well, stupid.

It is stupid, but so is your "reasoning".
If you bothered to educate yourself on the subject you would find that roughly 85% of the population want gun control. About 70% of NRA members want gun control.
The reason nothing happens is because the government is corrupted by money from, among other places, the NRA.
Consider yourself slightly more educated on the subject than you were berfore your inane post.

Ahh, so the majority and your President want gun control but it doesn't happen because of a " corrupt conspiracy " which has bought Congress, the Senate, the White House and every fucking state assembly in the entire fucking US of A?

RightyO, I geddit now. Thanks for that.

Daft as brushes, the lot of you.

Ah gormless? I think you describe yourself well. Have you ever been to the US? I think not. MrG is correct. The NRA has almost all Republicans in their back pocket. That is a FACT. The Republicans currently control both the House of Representatives and the Senate. If democrats try to push gun control through either legislative bodies it will be blocked and you can bet that the NRA's massive lobbying power will be all over that.

Genticles I suggest that you call the nurse to change your diapers because you clearly have no fcuking clue what is going in in the US.

Civics lesson is done for the day.

[Hans Mann]

[panama hat]

So there have been 355 mass shootings in 2015 alone and as many as 21 people are dead today from another two...

And Americans are worried about ISIS?!

They should get Americans with guns to go to the ME - two birds, one stone

Waiting to see how you libtards will blame this one on Fox News.

But hey you just worry about what some "libtard" might say about Fox News because clearly that's the important thing.

Clearly . . . he mentions 'libtards' several times . . . no-one else has

You are talking rubbish, Rick.

As usual

Rick

Frankly, I think you are all a bit too, well, stupid.

Well, that's a bit obvious

The reason nothing happens is because the government is corrupted by money from, among other places, the NRA.

I would disagree - it's not money that's keeping the gummint from legislating strict gun ownership laws, it's the potential political backlash proponents of this tightening believe they will receive.

Basically cowardly politicians who pander to as many groups as possible to be re-elected

[harrybarracuda]

You have a lot of crazies in the US all of whom seem to be able to pick up a gun and kill with tedious regularity if they so choose.
Admission of the reality will lead to acceptance and then maybe, just maybe, your people might achieve progress.
Frankly, I think you are all a bit too, well, stupid.

It is stupid, but so is your "reasoning".
If you bothered to educate yourself on the subject you would find that roughly 85% of the population want gun control. About 70% of NRA members want gun control.
The reason nothing happens is because the government is corrupted by money from, among other places, the NRA.
Consider yourself slightly more educated on the subject than you were berfore your inane post.

Ahh, so the majority and your President want gun control but it doesn't happen because of a " corrupt conspiracy " which has bought Congress, the Senate, the White House and every fucking state assembly in the entire fucking US of A?

RightyO, I geddit now. Thanks for that.

Daft as brushes, the lot of you.

You do a fairly dismal job of dismissing the power of the NRA's political sticks and carrots. And the millions they and their affiliates spend buying influence or votes.

[harrybarracuda]

I would disagree - it's not money that's keeping the gummint from legislating strict gun ownership laws, it's the potential political backlash proponents of this tightening believe they will receive.

Basically cowardly politicians who pander to as many groups as possible to be re-elected

It's both.

[bsnub]

Maybe the Muslim was upset being expected to attend a christian function. Maybe they were singing praise jesus songs.

Nobody in the US could be expected or forced to attend an xmas party.

Horrific . . . but nothing will change

What is your solution?

[Cujo]

Maybe the Muslim was upset being expected to attend a christian function. Maybe they were singing praise jesus songs.

Nobody in the US could be expected or forced to attend an xmas party.

Horrific . . . but nothing will change

What is your solution?

The solution is obvious, more guns. If everyone at the facility for the developmentally disabled was armed this would never have happened.

[S Landreth]

What is your solution?

Strict licensing

[bsnub]

^^ I am not one of those that believes that. That view belongs to the Fox news watchers. The point I would like to make is that even if you stopped all guns sales in the US tomorrow there are still more guns than people in the US. Most of them are not traceable in anyway. You cant just pass a law to solve this problem.

Strict licensing

How? like I said most guns are not traceable.

[RPETER65]

^^ I am not one of those that believes that. That view belongs to the Fox news watchers. The point I would like to make is that even if you stopped all guns sales in the US tomorrow there are still more guns than people in the US. Most of them are not traceable in anyway. You cant just pass a law to solve this problem.

Strict licensing

How? like I said most guns are not traceable.

It does pain me to say this, but for once I agree with Snubbles, except for the Fox News part.

[harrybarracuda]

You can pass laws to mitigate the problem. And have an amnesty/buyback of assault-type weapons, which they did in Australia (and they have had no mass shooting since).

The only people that will keep them against the law are fucking right wing nutters and you can just go and take those fuckers out with a SWAT team, because they are the ones who will probably end up shooting up a school with them anyway.

[Black Heart]

PH, you cannot disarm they US population. Even it was a fefederal and military order it could not logistically happen.

[Pragmatic]

[panama hat]

^ Nice reasoning, have a green

[Cujo]

What is your solution?

Disarm the population.

This ridiculous notion that the gummint would somehow turn tyrannical is not only far fetched but also in direct disproportion to the number of people killed - NOT by the government.
What was a possibility two hundred+ years ago is not now.

Many things have changed in the last 250 years, it's time the constitution reflects this and the laws are coded accordingly.

What exactly is it they're afraid of?
And if the government was going to turn tyrannical they have tanks, fighter jets with smart bombs, drones and all manner of other hardware,
Your peashooter isn't going to help.

[thaimeme]

What is your solution?

Disarm the population.

This ridiculous notion that the gummint would somehow turn tyrannical is not only far fetched but also in direct disproportion to the number of people killed - NOT by the government.
What was a possibility two hundred+ years ago is not now.

Many things have changed in the last 250 years, it's time the constitution reflects this and the laws are coded accordingly.

What exactly is it they're afraid of?
And if the government was going to turn tyrannical they have tanks, fighter jets with smart bombs, drones and all manner of other hardware,
Your peashooter isn't going to help.

All a bit moot, as the systems are already tyrannical in their making - the dumbed down illusionary population doesn't recognize as such....nor will they ever.

[Cujo]

What is your solution?

Disarm the population.

This ridiculous notion that the gummint would somehow turn tyrannical is not only far fetched but also in direct disproportion to the number of people killed - NOT by the government.
What was a possibility two hundred+ years ago is not now.

Many things have changed in the last 250 years, it's time the constitution reflects this and the laws are coded accordingly.

What exactly is it they're afraid of?
And if the government was going to turn tyrannical they have tanks, fighter jets with smart bombs, drones and all manner of other hardware,
Your peashooter isn't going to help.

All a bit moot, as the systems are already tyrannical in their making - the dumbed down illusionary population doesn't recognize as such....nor will they ever.

Oh FUCK OFF will you.
FFS

[panama hat]

What is your solution?

Disarm the population.

This ridiculous notion that the gummint would somehow turn tyrannical is not only far fetched but also in direct disproportion to the number of people killed - NOT by the government.
What was a possibility two hundred+ years ago is not now.

Many things have changed in the last 250 years, it's time the constitution reflects this and the laws are coded accordingly.

What exactly is it they're afraid of?
And if the government was going to turn tyrannical they have tanks, fighter jets with smart bombs, drones and all manner of other hardware,
Your peashooter isn't going to help.

Afraid of the people they themselves vote into office to represent them . . . the system itself does in no way lend itself to creating a tyrannical government but that hasn't entered the thick skulls into tiny brains.
Multi-party politics
Splintered parties
State independence\etc etc etc . . .



Idiots

[harrybarracuda]

^ Nice reasoning, have a green

Yeah, I put a lot of thought into that.

[baldrick]

Afraid of the people they themselves vote into office to represent them

except most of the weapon loonies will not have voted for the "black muslim who was born in kenya"

but I bet they want to vote for trump

seppoland still has a long descent into the abyss ahead of it

[thaimeme]

Much more beneficial for the earth if the Yanks militaristically occupied their own than to bring these activities upon the world -

Remember: perpetual war for perpetual peace. Practice these lovely ideals domestically and mind your own.