Thread: A Good Idea!

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Terrific idea. As a Yank, I've always believed that America's fat, spoiled young should have to do two years of some sort of national service

In my day that was called the "Draft." Met a young Thai kid, 19 years old who was on his so called "Gap Year," as he just completed his studies at the British International School. I asked him what he was going to do? Nothing, just travel a bit on Mom and Dad.

I had a laugh inside. My "Gap Year," was spent in Vietnam chasing Charlie. Quite a difference in perspectives.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Would certainly cut down the numbers in the next generation of welfare cheats.

It might eliminate the next crop of NBA and NFL players as well...

Originally Posted by ltnt

It might eliminate the next crop of NBA and NFL players as well...

Thats why they wont do it. No sports to keep the unwashed masses occupied and there really would be a revolution!

Originally Posted by ltnt

I had a laugh inside. My "Gap Year," was spent in Vietnam chasing Charlie. Quite a difference in perspectives.

Or was Charles chasing you?

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Terrific idea. As a Yank, I've always believed that America's fat, spoiled young should have to do two years of some sort of national service

In my day that was called the "Draft."

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Would certainly cut down the numbers in the next generation of welfare cheats.

It might eliminate the next crop of NBA and NFL players as well...

I was actually thinking more along the line of civilian work vice military.

I don't watch NBA or NFL so don't care about the next generation of spoiled prima donnas.

One reason the major 3rd World countries like China, India and Brazil will become economic superpowers is that they do not fund Welfare States as we 'civilised societies do, so they do not need to throw a significant portion of their GDP into that unsustainable black hole.

Quite aside from the adverse implications for a society happily breeding a race of parasites latched onto the Nanny's nipples.

Fair enough to help support those who are genuinely disabled or otherwise unable to work or find work, but a fair and reasonable message for the career idlers should be to work or starve. Unfortunately there's little sense left in a world coaxed along by the bleeding hearts, where everyone is a victim except the real victims, those who in return for an honest day's work are bled dry to feed the loafers. Oh yes, and forced sterilisation for the scum that exist simply to produce babies for the rest of us to feed, clothe, house and educate just enough to follow in their parent's footsteps.

Fire away...!

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah Ian 4th March 1961 until I lost her 16 March 2003 , we had intended to retire here as she just loved Thailand but fate dealt her a bad hand, never mind the 42 wonderful years and the memories are priceless and I count myself very lucky indeed

I don't agree with you about anything really (as you well know ), but I bow my head and raise my hat to you on that good sir.

42 years is indeed a wonderful thing, and it is truly saddening to read that you and your late wife didn't have the opportunity to realise your plans together.

To address your OP: as the libbiest liberal who has ever libbed a progressive lib I find it incomprehensible that people on the dole should not perform some sort of community service as they seek employment.

Want your dole cheque?
OK, Here's a stick and a rubbish bag, go and clean up a couple of hundred square yards of the local park and get back to us.
Oh, you are educated? Well then head down to the public library (if it is still open!) and help the librarians with their re-sorting project.
What's that? You are an obese single mother of 8 with no intention of ever seeking gainful employment? Here's a begging bowl and a map to the bus station. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I was actually thinking more along the line of civilian work vice military.

Obama had the temerity to suggest that about AmeriCorps and was subsequently hammered for being a Nazi or something..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...of-americorps/

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Almost forgot. Instead of having their welfare, food stamp, and other benefits INCREASED for each bastard child these welfare whores drop, I think their benefits should be cut, significantly, each time they breed.

I've always wished or hoped they would do this in Canada, but these people have rights and if you try to mess with any of their rights, all hell breaks loose.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Terrific idea. As a Yank, I've always believed that America's fat, spoiled young should have to do two years of some sort of national service between high school and college/real employment.

How do they pay rent, and buy gasoline for their cars? Food?

I think volunteering should be for those who choose to volunteer.

Ref my earlier post, I found this BBC article from 2005

BBC NEWS | Europe | German benefit protests contained

Unemployed Germans have been encouraged to take "one-euro jobs" - wages of one to two euros per hour on top of jobless benefit for public service work, such as helping in nursing homes or rubbish collection.

UK way behind the Germans...as usual....

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah Ian 4th March 1961 until I lost her 16 March 2003 , we had intended to retire here as she just loved Thailand but fate dealt her a bad hand, never mind the 42 wonderful years and the memories are priceless and I count myself very lucky indeed

I don't agree with you about anything really (as you well know ), but I bow my head and raise my hat to you on that good sir.

42 years is indeed a wonderful thing, and it is truly saddening to read that you and your late wife didn't have the opportunity to realise your plans together.

To address your OP: as the libbiest liberal who has ever libbed a progressive lib I find it incomprehensible that people on the dole should not perform some sort of community service as they seek employment.

Want your dole cheque?
OK, Here's a stick and a rubbish bag, go and clean up a couple of hundred square yards of the local park and get back to us.
Oh, you are educated? Well then head down to the public library (if it is still open!) and help the librarians with their re-sorting project.
What's that? You are an obese single mother of 8 with no intention of ever seeking gainful employment? Here's a begging bowl and a map to the bus station. Good luck.

Cheers for the compliment QC ,just because we are politically different does not mean we are different in our outlook on certain aspects of life, actually it was 47 years together as we starting courting when we was 14!, I told every one in the School I was going to marry Moreen (spelled correctly) I often said hey if you found a diamond would you throw it away In 2007 I had to go back to the UK to sort some business out, and of course I went to her grave, it was a bit too much for me ,and as I stood there tears streaming down my face talking to her headstone an old gentleman stopped to look at me ,I gathered myself and said I suppose you think I'm crazy eh, he just smiled and said no not at all, in fact I have come to have a good talk to my wife who is in a grave not 30 yards away from your wife's

^ Amazing and a genuinely heartwarming story of devotion.





Now, get back to being a pillock so we can start arguing again!

Originally Posted by piwanoi

What prompted me to start this thread was reading the seemingly endless storys week in week out of cases like this , it fair makes my blood boil ,and talking to the many farang OAP's in my area they feel just the same ,truly the mind boggles , Jobless mother-of-seven insists her family 'deserve' £1.25MILLION taxpayer-funded home they 'trashed' | Mail Online you lot tell me , whats the answer to this lunacy?

Judging by the 2 pics of one of the sons they look like a fine addition to the neighborhood. Fucking disgrace.

Where I grew up it was Cambodian refugees during the Khmer Rouge. Family of 10 or so would get a free house, car, jobs, govt aid, etc then all the young soulless killers (aka teenage boys) would form a gang and start killing locals and stealing shit. We only had local neighborhood gangs that would just fight and screw around but the Cambodian's moved it to the next level. They wouldn't fight they would just shoot or stab you to death. Everyone quickly learned not to fuck with the Cambo's.

This looks like a similar story.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Personally myself I think that this is a good idea,Why should'nt some one who is receiving more in benefits than the national minimum wage do a bit of worth while work for the community? back there in Manchester were I came from the place was rife with work shy loafers with many doing cash in hand jobs in the black economy ,and from what my 3 kids have told me little has changed , Society is keeping these people ,its way overdue that they paid society back!Pick up litter for your dole: Long-term unemployed would also clean up graffiti or cook for the elderly in Tory 'work for benefits' crackdown | Mail Online

It's a good idea but it would be a great idea if it was taken further. If the state is paying people to work full time on these kinds of tasks, it should employ them properly. Give them a full time job working for the council. It would have the added benefits of cutting down the employment levels. Win-win situation.

Bill Clinton signed the Welfare to Work Program in 1996 where able bodied slackers had to seek employment or take job training to qualify for benefits. the program was working really well for years with people getting off the welfare roles. Most jobs were in government but that's ok since it restored some pride in the people who had a job for the first time in their life, then along came Obama who cut out the requirement to try get a job to qualify for welfare

^^
The problem with these forced labour schemes is that people who do not want to do the job can be disruptive, in the hope they will get fired. The only solution really is to ensure the maximum level of benefits is less than the minimum wage so that claiming them is no longer an attractive option. Suddenly cleaning lavatories becomes preferable to claiming benefits because it pays more.

This time Piwanoi I want repo.

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Originally Posted by beazalbob69

Originally Posted by piwanoi

What prompted me to start this thread was reading the seemingly endless storys week in week out of cases like this , it fair makes my blood boil ,and talking to the many farang OAP's in my area they feel just the same ,truly the mind boggles , Jobless mother-of-seven insists her family 'deserve' £1.25MILLION taxpayer-funded home they 'trashed' | Mail Online you lot tell me , whats the answer to this lunacy?

Judging by the 2 pics of one of the sons they look like a fine addition to the neighborhood. Fucking disgrace.

Where I grew up it was Cambodian refugees during the Khmer Rouge. Family of 10 or so would get a free house, car, jobs, govt aid, etc then all the young soulless killers (aka teenage boys) would form a gang and start killing locals and stealing shit. We only had local neighborhood gangs that would just fight and screw around but the Cambodian's moved it to the next level. They wouldn't fight they would just shoot or stab you to death. Everyone quickly learned not to fuck with the Cambo's.

This looks like a similar story.

Yeah the eldest 19 year old son is in clink for Drug dealing so that,s more dough from the tax payer to keep him there!,,guess what his name is? yeah right first Guess , its Osama ,so you can only surmise as to just were their loyalty,s lie!.

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

then along came Obama who cut out the requirement to try get a job to qualify for welfare

Yeah, that is totally untrue right wing blogosphere bullshit.

Some Republican state governors requested that they could change the requirements and the admin gave them the freedom to do it.

Does Obama’s Plan ‘Gut Welfare Reform’?

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ts-ron-haskins

Originally Posted by ltnt

I had a laugh inside. My "Gap Year," was spent in Vietnam chasing Charlie.

How did that work out?

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Terrific idea. As a Yank, I've always believed that America's fat, spoiled young should have to do two years of some sort of national service between high school and college/real employment.

How do they pay rent, and buy gasoline for their cars? Food?

Same way the fat fuckers always have - from Mommy - from selling drugs - from Mummy's welfare checks or Daddy's disability checks.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by barbaro

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Terrific idea. As a Yank, I've always believed that America's fat, spoiled young should have to do two years of some sort of national service between high school and college/real employment.

How do they pay rent, and buy gasoline for their cars? Food?

Same way the fat fuckers always have - from Mommy - from selling drugs - from Mummy's welfare checks or Daddy's disability checks.

Hey Davis , your my kind of guy, no mistake, but you appear to have left out " mugging some person that is prepared to go out and do a honest day's work"