2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

**RPETER65** · 21-10-2016, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If you can possibly get past the fact that Dinesh D'Souza is an ass-kissing right wing twat who's been convicted for campaign fraud, you'd realise that your stupid video belongs in the shitter.

Still doesn't answer the very salient question of how the Clintons got so rich so quickly.

Fucking hell, is it International Be A Fucking Right Wing Imbecile Day today?

Forbes Welcome

So you have no answer as to how a government employe could be flat broke leaving the White House and now have a net worth of about $300,00 come on Harry you know everything help us out.

Yeah, you see that funny underlined bit with "forbes" in it?

It's called a link.

Just click it and go and grab a dictionary for words with more than one syllable.

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

**RPETER65** · 21-10-2016, 04:50 PM

Debate Check III: Eight Hillary Lies Debunked
Clinton tells tall tales on Second Amendment, immigration, Clinton Foundation, and more
by Edmund Kozak | Updated 20 Oct 2016 at 8:19 AM
Another presidential debate, another master class in straight-faced lying from Hillary Clinton. Clinton didn’t pass up her final chance to mislead the country about her policy positions, damning scandals — and, of course, Donald Trump.

When it came to the subject of the Supreme Court, Clinton clearly hoped voters would take her for some sort of constitutional scholar. “I would hope that the Senate would do its job and confirm the nominee that President Obama has sent to them. That’s the way the Constitution fundamentally should operate. The president nominates, and then the Senate advises and consents or not,” Clinton said.

“Everything I did as secretary of state was in our interest and in furtherance of our values.”
Unfortunately for Clinton’s interpretation, there is nothing in the Constitution which mandates that the Senate immediately respond to the president’s nomination. When it came to the subject of the Second Amendment, Clinton once again demonstrated dishonesty — and her weak knowledge of the Constitution.

“I support the Second Amendment,” Clinton said. “I understand and respect the tradition of gun ownership. It goes back to the founding of our country. But I also believe that there can be and must be reasonable regulation,” she insisted.

This is nonsense. The Second Amendment clearly states that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Moreover, the tradition of gun ownership is based not on the right to hunt or shoot clay pigeons, but the right to protect oneself and one’s family from evil men and tyrannical governments. The policies Clinton supports fundamentally deny these truths.

When it came to the equally divisive issue of abortion, Clinton once again displayed a propensity for lying. "So many states are putting very stringent regulations on women that block them from exercising that choice to the extent that they are defunding Planned Parenthood," Clinton said.

But regardless of one's position on the issue, defunding Planned Parenthood in no way blocks a woman's right make that choice. Moreover, Clinton conveniently ignored the fact that the states which moved to defund Planned Parenthood did so in the wake of videos that revealed the organization may have engaged in shockingly illegal and immoral behavior — selling parts of aborted children for profit.

On the issue of immigration, Clinton asserted that Trump "started his campaign bashing immigrants, calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and drug dealers." In reality, Trump criticized lax immigration policy which permitted immigrants who were rapists and criminals and drug dealers to enter the country with ease.

"I am also arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the shadows, putting them into the formal economy will be good because employers can't exploit them and undercut Americans' wages," Clinton said. But putting cheap illegal labor into the formal economy immediately negates the economic benefit of cheap illegal labor. Welfare use for immigrant populations is also disproportionately high compared to other demographic groups. The sudden transformation of all illegal workers into U.S. citizens would wreak havoc on wages, the job market, and benefits infrastructure.

One of Clinton's most outrageous lies came when discussing her view on globalization and borders. "We will not have open borders," she insisted. "That is a rank mischaracterization." Moderator Chris Wallace challenged Clinton, referring to comments she made to a Brazilian bank. "My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders," Clinton said at the time.

"Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, I was talking about energy," Clinton responded. However if one does read the rest of the sentence as Clinton suggests, it clearly shows she is lying. "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere," she said.

It is clear she is talking about a borderless hemisphere with free movement of peoples powered by sustainable energy, not a common market with open trade and open borders solely in the sustainable energy sector.

Clinton also had the audacity to chastise Wallace for bringing up her speech. "You are very clearly quoting from WikiLeaks and what is important about that is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans," Clinton said. No — what's important is that the Democratic candidate for president is one of the most corrupt and dishonest politicians in U.S. history.

Even if WikiLeaks was an agency of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, that does not make the revelations in their leaks any less true. Clinton also repeated the claim that Trump "encouraged espionage against our people." But Trump did no such thing — he called on Russians to release emails he assumed they already had, a distinction clearly lost on Clinton.

Another lie came when Clinton claimed that Obama has cut the federal deficit by two-thirds. In 2008, the federal budget deficit was $459 billion. In July of this year the Obama administration announced the deficit was expected to reach $600 billion. Moreover, the national debt has increased by 84 percent under Obama, from over $10.6 trillion in 2009 to over 19.7 trillion as of this month.

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But Clinton's most boldfaced, unabashed lie undoubtedly arrived when it came to the issue of her uncomfortably close relationship to the Clinton Foundation while secretary of state, allegedly engaging in repeated instances of pay-to-play.

"Everything I did as secretary of state was in our interest and in furtherance of our values," Clinton said. How granting Russians — who Clinton seems to think are hiding under her bed — uranium mining rights or authorizing massive arms deals to repressive Islamic dictatorships is in our interest or in furtherance of our values, Clinton did not say.

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**Humbert** · 21-10-2016, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Why? Is giving speeches a crime? What's wrong with speaking to people you have fundamental differences with? Are you so narrow minded that you would only speak to people who agree with you? Never mind I already know the answer to that one.

**Mr Earl** · 21-10-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Why? Is giving speeches a crime? What's wrong with speaking to people you have fundamental differences with? Are you so narrow minded that you would only speak to people who agree with you? Never mind I already know the answer to that one.

It might make a wee difference if you are Bill Clinton who collected a nice fat 500k$ for speaking at his own clinton foundation fundraiser for Haitii.

Is that a load of crooked, immoral, thieving shit, or what?

The Clintons should be going to jail, not the White House.

**aging one** · 21-10-2016, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

It might make a wee difference if you are Bill Clinton who collected a nice fat 500k$ for speaking at his own clinton foundation fundraiser for Haitii. Is that a load of crooked, immoral, thieving shit, or what? The Clintons should be going to jail, not the White House. __________________ Fuck the government!

A simple link would suffice. One thing both the Clintons are is not stupid Earl.

**harrybarracuda** · 21-10-2016, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

You do realise the question was "How did they get so rich so quickly"?

The answer is quite obviously enormous speaking fees and book royalties, you stupid old codger.

They filed their tax returns, didn't they?

Don't change the subject because you're too thick to understand the question or the answer.

**harrybarracuda** · 21-10-2016, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

How granting Russians — who Clinton seems to think are hiding under her bed — uranium mining rights or authorizing massive arms deals to repressive Islamic dictatorships is in our interest or in furtherance of our values, Clinton did not say.

Once more you moron: Clinton had nothing to do with the sale of the Uranium company.

“...the State Department was just one of nine agencies involved in the U.S. government’s review of the sale of Uranium One. In addition to the fact that Hillary Clinton herself did not have a role in the State Department’s review of the deal, the Department itself was just one player — and not even a major one — in the C.F.I.U.S. process. It is the Treasury Department that serves as the lead agency in all C.F.I.U.S. matters, and seven other U.S. agencies besides State — including the Departments of Justice, Energy and Commerce — sit on the panel. To the extent a deal like the sale of Uranium One could be said to raise any national security concerns, both the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security also sit on the panel, and would have been party to the overall approval. Moreover, the 2010 sale of Uranium One was approved by more than just C.F.I.U.S. It was also green-lighted by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Utah Department of Radiation and the Canadian government. In addition, the Union of Concerned Scientists affirmed that the deal did not raise national security concerns.”

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**harrybarracuda** · 21-10-2016, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Why? Is giving speeches a crime? What's wrong with speaking to people you have fundamental differences with? Are you so narrow minded that you would only speak to people who agree with you? Never mind I already know the answer to that one.

It might make a wee difference if you are Bill Clinton who collected a nice fat 500k$ for speaking at his own clinton foundation fundraiser for Haitii.

Is that a load of crooked, immoral, thieving shit, or what?

The Clintons should be going to jail, not the White House.

The Clinton Foundation raised $30 million for Haiti.

So big fucking deal.

**Cold Pizza** · 21-10-2016, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

For me this.

That's the entire US.

Declining wages, 48% of jobs are service sector, and 7/10 of American adults have less than $1000 in savings.

0% interest rates, 40% of GDP is fed, state, and local spending.

That....is a sinking ship.

**SKkin** · 21-10-2016, 08:23 PM

Vote for Hillary and get a BJ from Madonna. Well it's all over now...

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters

“If you vote for Hillary Clinton,” Madonna told the crowd at Madison Square Garden, “I will give you a blow job.”

“And I’m good,” the 58-year-old “Like a Virgin” singer, an outspoken supporter of the Democratic presidential nominee, said to cheers from the audience.

“I’m not a tool. I take my time,” Madonna boasted.

Madonna pledges oral sex for Clinton voters | TheHill

**harrybarracuda** · 21-10-2016, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

Vote for Hillary and get a BJ from Madonna. Well it's all over now...

Fuck, that's a shitload of votes for Trump right there.

**RPETER65** · 22-10-2016, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Why? Is giving speeches a crime? What's wrong with speaking to people you have fundamental differences with? Are you so narrow minded that you would only speak to people who agree with you? Never mind I already know the answer to that one.

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

**Humbert** · 22-10-2016, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

So, no answer. Dumb fcuk dodge as usual.

**Humbert** · 22-10-2016, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Has it ever crossed your mind that event speaking is a very well paid profession you brainwashed retard.

TOP PAID SPEAKERS

1. Donald Trump, $1-1.5 million:

In 2006 and 2007, The Learning Annex shelled out a hefty fee to have Donald Trump at their Real Estate Wealth Expos, paying him a whopping $1.5 million per speech for a 17-seminar conference. Trump only had to speak for an hour at each one, but audience members say he gave them their money’s worth by staying to answer audience questions. This was after Trump had already raked in one million per speech speaking at the same seminars in 2005. The company felt Trump was well worth the money, however, as few others have the celebrity and business savvy he does.

2. Ronald Reagan, $1 million:

Back in 1989, the Fujisankei Communications Group in Japan paid this former president a cool million per speech to come to the country and tour. Reagan gave two speeches while there as well as speaking at media outlets and giving interviews. Still, Reagan didn’t make out too shabby with $2 million (in 1989 dollars) under his belt for sharing his business and presidential experience with the company desperately in need of public relations help. The Reagans created a national sensation in Japan, boosting the company’s profile.

3. Tony Blair, $616,000:

On a lecture by lecture basis, Blair is likely the world’s best paid speaker. In 2009, he made almost $616,000 for two half-hour speeches given in the Philippines, raking in over $10,000 a minute. Listeners didn’t get to hear what he had to say for free, however, and many tickets to the event topped $500. Even in a time of economic crisis when many have slashed their fees, Blair’s have remained buoyant, due perhaps to his lengthy stint as Prime Minister and the insight and analysis he can offer as a result of it.

4. Bill Clinton, $150,000- $450,000:

It isn’t unusual for this former president to net $150,000 and up for a speech. Clinton has spoken at a wide range of events around the world from environmental conferences to business meetings, often promoting causes like HIV/AIDS treatment, economic empowerment and leadership development. The same charisma and likeability that won him two elections likely contribute to organizations’ willingness to shell out the big bucks to have him speak. Clinton has scaled back his speaking schedule, however, to support his wife as Secretary of State.

5. Rudy Guilani, $270,000:

While millions of New Yorkers got to hear Guiliani speak for free during his time as mayor, his speaking fees aren’t cheap now that he’s retired. Since his time in office, he’s earned nearly $10 million in speaking fees, with his most expensive gig netting him $217,000. This speech was given at Sage Capital, a St. Louis-based private equity firm, and chances are his presidential candidacy may have helped out the bottom line on his fees as well.

6. Alan Greenspan, $250,000:

Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan has been able to bring in the bucks since retiring through giving speeches. Only a week after his retirement, Greenspan spoke at a Lehman Brothers dinner, earning himself $250,000. Worth noting is that his successor to the position, Ben Bernacke, won’t even make that in his first year on the job, earning just $191,000.

7. Lance Armstrong, $100,000 and up:

Straight facts are hard to get on just what Armstrong is paid to appear as a keynote speaker. With inspirational fodder gained both from his successful battle against cancer and his comeback win of the Tour de France, Armstrong is in demand as a speaker regardless of the kind of fees he commands. While he might only need $100,000 to appear at some events, industry insiders have noted that he asked for $750,000 for a series of speeches given overseas just last year, a fee that might not be out of line for celebrity speakers.

8. Al Gore, $100,000-150,000:

Since his time as Vice President and his famous run for president, Al Gore has made a name for himself as a strong opponent of global warming and an environmental activist. Gore has maintained his draw as a speaker because of this activism, and now routinely charges in the $100,000 range for speeches. Having an Oscar-winning film and a Nobel Peace Prize under his belt sure can’t hurt either. While some have criticized his high fees, his camp maintains that he donates a percentage of his fees to the Alliance for Climate Protection.

9. Richard Branson, $100,000 and up:

This business mogul is known world wide for his record company and airlines, not to mention his forward-thinking business plans. It is, perhaps, a combination of these things–his business savvy, willingness to take risks, and ultimate success–that make him such a desirable speaker. Of course, if you want to bring him to your event, expect to pay at least $100,000, though many other companies have been rumored to have paid more.

10. Sarah Palin, $100,000 and up:

**harrybarracuda** · 22-10-2016, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Has it ever crossed your mind that questioning the Clinton's speaking fees and to who they are speaking might be a good idea?

Why? Is giving speeches a crime? What's wrong with speaking to people you have fundamental differences with? Are you so narrow minded that you would only speak to people who agree with you? Never mind I already know the answer to that one.

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

What is this parochial babble supposed to mean? Did you hear Trump say it or something?

It sounds like the sort of meaningless bluster he'd come out with at one of his rallies.

**harrybarracuda** · 22-10-2016, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

10. Sarah Palin, $100,000 and up:

Fucking hell you could get a proper comedienne for that.

**david44** · 22-10-2016, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fucking hell you could get a proper comedienne for that.

good one

**Dragonfly** · 22-10-2016, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by SKkin

Vote for Hillary and get a BJ from Madonna. Well it's all over now...

Fuck, that's a shitload of votes for Trump right there.

who would want a blowjob from an old 58yr old washed out singer ?

you are not very bright, aren't you ?

**harrybarracuda** · 22-10-2016, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by SKkin

Vote for Hillary and get a BJ from Madonna. Well it's all over now...

Fuck, that's a shitload of votes for Trump right there.

who would want a blowjob from an old 58yr old washed out singer ?

you are not very bright, aren't you ?

Buttplug you're doing it again: contributing nothing.

https://teakdoor.com/members-only/169...e-butters.html (Can anyone find anything positive Butters/Dragonfly has contributed to this?)

**RPETER65** · 22-10-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

So, no answer. Dumb fcuk dodge as usual.

What I said is my answer

**harrybarracuda** · 22-10-2016, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

So, no answer. Dumb fcuk dodge as usual.

What I said is my answer

Yes, it's a dumb fuck dodge as usual because you don't see to have any idea what anyone else is talking about.

Famous people getting speaking fees is nothing.

And there is NO evidence, except in your crackpot mashups of fact and fiction like Clinton Cash and D'Sousa's feeble conspiracy theories, that anything Clinton did as Sec. of State was influenced by how her husband picked up his wage packets.

**RPETER65** · 23-10-2016, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Your head is either to deep in the sand or you have put on the blinders, you can't see the forest for the trees.

So, no answer. Dumb fcuk dodge as usual.

What I said is my answer

Yes, it's a dumb fuck dodge as usual because you don't see to have any idea what anyone else is talking about.

Famous people getting speaking fees is nothing.

And there is NO evidence, except in your crackpot mashups of fact and fiction like Clinton Cash and D'Sousa's feeble conspiracy theories, that anything Clinton did as Sec. of State was influenced by how her husband picked up his wage packets.

Just keep following your masters.

**bsnub** · 23-10-2016, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Just keep following your masters.

You fucking brainwashed lemming the only puppet on a string here is you. You spout nothing but far right talking points from right wing blogs controlled by oligarchs like Rupert Murdock and the Koch brothers. You are absolutely utterly brainwashed. You are the true servant of the oligarchs.

**slackula** · 23-10-2016, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

You are the true servant of the oligarchs.

Why is everyone laughing? This is the absolute epitome of the behaviour of Evangelical Christian fuckwits. Look how they are falling over themselves to run away from Drump's marriages and sex abuse while proclaiming he is the second coming of a middle-eastern terrorist!

Xtian play book 101 (check out what Pence has done in office for reference):

1. Do something completely unacceptable to everyone else
2. Think "Forgive me, imaginary friend"
3. Believe you're forgiven and everyone else is therefore required to put up with your shit
4. Tell everyone else how bad they are, because they don't do what you think they should
5. If called out, say the person is persecuting you, or doesn't understand Christianity, or is cynical or some shit
6. Repeat

**harrybarracuda** · 23-10-2016, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Just keep following your masters.

Says the muppet who does nothing but parrot rubbish he cuts and pastes from right whinge websites.

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