Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^Bobo, post it over in the 2016 Republican Presidential Candidate thread. Trump is a Republican.

No better to start a new thread. We should ditch these truncated threads. The time has come to stop posting in them. We need to rebuild.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^Bobo, post it over in the 2016 Republican Presidential Candidate thread. Trump is a Republican.

No better to start a new thread. We should ditch these truncated threads. The time has come to stop posting in them. We need to rebuild.

Fuck off snubby it's working fine except for the occasional dickhead that can't read.

Originally Posted by bsnub

No better to start a new thread. We should ditch these truncated threads. The time has come to stop posting in them. We need to rebuild.

I say wait until after the conventions. Then start a "2016 U.S. presidential campaign" thread

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by bsnub

No better to start a new thread. We should ditch these truncated threads. The time has come to stop posting in them. We need to rebuild.

I say wait until after the conventions. Then start a "2016 U.S. presidential campaign" thread

A reasonable compromise. We'll know by then for sure who is actually running.

Originally Posted by Humbert

'I've got plenty of nuthin'.

and nuthins got plenty of me. song in there somewhere, heh, i like it.

Dem/GOP issues/posts are becoming intermingled now we have 2 presumptive nominees. Time for someone to start a new thread. "2016 US Presidential race" would be good.

Originally Posted by Norton

Dem/GOP issues/posts are becoming intermingled now we have 2 presumptive nominees. Time for someone to start a new thread. "2016 US Presidential race" would be good.

No it wouldn't.

E.g. What does discussion about Trump's fundraising woes have to do with the Clinton campaign?

Fuck all.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Norton

Dem/GOP issues/posts are becoming intermingled now we have 2 presumptive nominees. Time for someone to start a new thread. "2016 US Presidential race" would be good.

No it wouldn't.

E.g. What does discussion about Trump's fundraising woes have to do with the Clinton campaign?

Fuck all.

Agreed. Nothing wrong or confusing with the current set-up.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

E.g. What does discussion about Trump's fundraising woes have to do with the Clinton campaign?

Really? Surrogates contrast the way the two campaigns are funded all the time. Plenty of room for discussion there.

Personally, I think waiting until after the convention is fine if you're going to stomp your feet about it.

In the two weeks since Hillary Clinton wrapped up the Democratic presidential primary, runner-up Bernie Sanders has promised to work hard to defeat Donald Trump — but he’s given no sign he’ll soon embrace Clinton, his party’s presumptive nominee. Neither have many of Sanders’s supporters.

A June 14th Bloomberg Politics national poll of likely voters in November’s election found that barely half of those who favored Sanders — 55 percent — plan to vote for Clinton.

Instead, 22 percent say they’ll vote for Trump, while 18 percent favor Libertarian Gary Johnson.

Just as I thought. She is going to regret rigging the nomination process.

As usual I was right.

Nearly Half of Sanders Supporters Won't Support Clinton - Bloomberg Politics

Originally Posted by longway

As usual I was right.

You mean 'as usual I am taking a victory lap before the race is run'. Clinton supporters said the same about refusing to support Obama in 2008. By the time the election rolls around most will come around especially given the odious possibility of Trump in the White House.

^ Its not that they wont vote for Clinton, they are choosing Trump, if they haven't gone off him already, they aren't going to now.

Bernie bros know a shill when they see one, they wont go back, especially as she treated them with disdain during the primaries.

Trump will recover soon enough in the polls, but she fell off a cliff with her numbers and she is not going to recover.

^A few diehards may not vote at all but very few will vote for Trump and then only out of ignorance. Trump is anathema to anyone who has progressive values.

Originally Posted by MrG

They are not stupid people, and they are not "political" people normally, but they do not see the implications for themselves or their kids of a Trump in office, a Trump Supreme Court, etc.

Maybe not stupid but intellectually wishy-washy if they have not thought the supreme court issue through.

Originally Posted by MrG

True. But I have a nephew and his wife, early 30s, who are Bernie people but say they will vote for Trump or not at all

And I know dozens of Bernie supporters in Seattle and Atlanta who would never vote for Trump under any circumstances.

^ Yeah, but that's just the crusties and hipsters.

Originally Posted by MrG

so Bernie people coming to Hillary is still in the offing

Bernie needs to go to the convention and get the DNC to support some of his platform. Once done then rally his supporters to vote Dem and reject all GOP candidates.

Originally Posted by longway

^ Yeah, but that's just the crusties and hipsters.

It's engineers, pharmacists, CGI designers, architects and medical professionals. So fuk off.

^ Yeah well 22% of them are voting for Trump, so you fuk off.

Hillaryous says 'sigh' instead of making the sound.

She then thanks everyone 3 times for attending.

How Bad Is Hillary?... She Just Read "Sigh" from Her TelePrompter (VIDEO)

Originally Posted by MrG

^
True. But I have a nephew and his wife, early 30s, who are Bernie people but say they will vote for Trump or not at all rather than Hillary. They are not stupid people

Well obviously they fucking are.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrG They are not stupid people, and they are not "political" people normally, but they do not see the implications for themselves or their kids of a Trump in office, a Trump Supreme Court, etc. Maybe not stupid but intellectually wishy-washy if they have not thought the supreme court issue through.

Like I said, they're not into politics.

Originally Posted by Humbert

And I know dozens of Bernie supporters in Seattle and Atlanta who would never vote for Trump under any circumstances.

I'm sure there are many more than those that would turn to Trump. I have heard a figure as high as 20% could turn or just not vote.
Americans voting against their own interest. Nothing new.

^The single issue that will attract Sanders voters to Trump are the trade deals and this mainly applies to blue collar voters who have suffered the most by globalization.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^The single issue that will attract Sanders voters to Trump are the trade deals and this mainly applies to blue collar voters who have suffered the most by globalization.

There's probably $20 million of adverts all ready to roll, showing Trump's merchandise with the "Made in China" and "Made in Mexico" labels.

So that one's dead in the water.