2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

**AntRobertson** · 18-02-2016, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by longway

why the need to a personal dig at the commentator

Hardly personal, he's grating, childish and annoying and his points contrived and facile. What makes him exempt from being commented on.

Originally Posted by longway

You really think that an ad that features sanders 80% of the time, reiterating his steadfast determination to take down wall street doesn't help him?

Yep.

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 09:41 AM

^ I never said he was exempt, ok so we have had contributions from the number 1 and 2 lamest posters in the forum, anyone else have an opinion?

**AntRobertson** · 18-02-2016, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by longway

why the need to a personal dig at the commentator

Originally Posted by longway

ok so we have had contributions from the number 1 and 2 lamest posters in the forum

You really do a fantastic job of undermining yourself.

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 10:19 AM

^ well you are facile, contrived, and annoying. And oh so predictable

**harrybarracuda** · 18-02-2016, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by longway

^ well you are facile, contrived, and annoying. And oh so predictable

Were you born this much of a dickhead or have you just had a huge amount of practice?

You come out with feeble, contrived arguments and when challenged try and change the narrative into a argument.

Hillary's ad is the perfect example.

It rams home the point that Bernie thinks he can solve the worlds ills by attacking Wall Street.

It shows him as a monotonous, single issue candidate.

It demonstrates that he has no depth when it comes to Security or Foreign Policy matters.

But such is your desperation for Hillary not to win and demolish the Chump, you are seeing things that simply are not there.

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ well you are facile, contrived, and annoying. And oh so predictable

It rams home the point that Bernie thinks he can solve the worlds ills by attacking Wall Street.

It shows him as a monotonous, single issue candidate.

It demonstrates that he has no depth when it comes to Security or Foreign Policy matters.

But such is your desperation for Hillary not to win and demolish the Chump, you are seeing things that simply are not there.

Nothing I say here can change anything, you reality challenged chipmunk.

She is airing an ad that rams home that Sanders wants to go after wall street in a big way, it generates interest in him, it doesn't put people off. His biggest issue is that many people don't know who he is, she is raising his profile on his biggest strength, on top of that once voters go and check him out, they see is far from a single issue candidate.

Anyway wall street is not an issue, its THE issue, so much of what ails the usa stems from the corrupting influence of big money. People know this.

Just a couple of months ago he was 20-30% behind in nevada, and as his message about the banks got known and he got known, nevadans flocked to him, and she is helping him spread that message.

and later on should she win the nomination she is going to need the sanders supporters in a big way, but portraying him this dishonestly; its a very distorted picture of sanders, will backfire on her then.

**piwanoi** · 18-02-2016, 02:13 PM

Hey Longway pick the bones out of this video

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 03:12 PM

^As Bernstein said she is 'blowing up her own campaign', he is not exactly a Fox news shill is he?

She is continuing to do what she has been doing.

I think her judgment is very poor in general and it shows in her campaigning, but people here are not able to accept how bad it is.

Watch sanders ad, it dings her subtly, but focuses on his own message. For all his zany appearance, he is a very effective campaigner; charismatic, and able to market his brand and get his message out perfectly. And he manages to keep his integrity throughout (so far anyway)

By contrast Silliary comes across as a smug idiot (and I think that's exactly who she is) with her purely negative ad who tries to portray him as a nutcase with a one track mind almost at the level of a hobo shouting at tall buildings in manhattan; she has no idea what she is doing.

The ad begins at 00:49

anyway whatever way you want to parse the rhetoric she has been caught napping.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-02-2016, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by longway

and later on should she win the nomination she is going to need the sanders supporters in a big way, but portraying him this dishonestly; its a very distorted picture of sanders, will backfire on her then.

There is nothing dishonest about it at all.

Whether you agree with him or not, Bernie is a single issue candidate: The rich are too rich and powerful.

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 05:41 PM

^ far from it, and anyway its disingenuous to dismiss it as a single issue when it is enmeshed with so many others, immigration, banking, housing, employment, trade, foreign policy; it has a massive impact in all kinds of social and financial and even cultural aspects of society; its the single great issue.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-02-2016, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by longway

^ far from it, and anyway its disingenuous to dismiss it as a single issue when it is enmeshed with so many others, immigration, banking, housing, employment, trade, foreign policy; it has a massive impact in all kinds of social and financial and even cultural aspects of society; its the single great issue.

You appear to be arguing with yourself again.

**piwanoi** · 18-02-2016, 06:20 PM

Bernie appears to be in full flow here about Hilarious's bosom pal HK

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ far from it, and anyway its disingenuous to dismiss it as a single issue when it is enmeshed with so many others, immigration, banking, housing, employment, trade, foreign policy; it has a massive impact in all kinds of social and financial and even cultural aspects of society; its the single great issue.

You appear to be arguing with yourself again.

I don't know why bother replying to you. Its like responding to a demented parrot.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-02-2016, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ far from it, and anyway its disingenuous to dismiss it as a single issue when it is enmeshed with so many others, immigration, banking, housing, employment, trade, foreign policy; it has a massive impact in all kinds of social and financial and even cultural aspects of society; its the single great issue.

You appear to be arguing with yourself again.

I don't know why bother replying to you. Its like responding to a demented parrot.

Well you're the turnip who, in response to me saying "Bernie is a single issue candidate", said "It's the single great issue".

Sounds to me like your two functioning brain cells are at odds again.

**Norton** · 18-02-2016, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by longway

she has been caught napping.

It's like déjà vu all over again.

2008 revisited.

**longway** · 18-02-2016, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by longway

^ far from it, and anyway its disingenuous to dismiss it as a single issue when it is enmeshed with so many others, immigration, banking, housing, employment, trade, foreign policy; it has a massive impact in all kinds of social and financial and even cultural aspects of society; its the single great issue.

You appear to be arguing with yourself again.

I don't know why bother replying to you. Its like responding to a demented parrot.

Well you're the turnip who, in response to me saying "Bernie is a single issue candidate", said "It's the single great issue".

Sounds to me like your two functioning brain cells are at odds again.

Its quite simple you demented parrot; he is not a single issue candidate, however his greatest focus is on the most important issue, and without dealing with that issue, you pissing into the wind if you are trying to deal with the rest.

**Norton** · 19-02-2016, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by longway

Who is this guy?

As others have noted he's a well known baseball player. My point is Hillary should be very concerned given it appears what is happening now against Bernie looks a repeat (deja vu all over again

) of her run in 2008 against Obama. A vitual unknown with an inspirational program whipping a shoe in to win.

Bernie could well win if he can spin his economic, education and health programs are a benefit to ALL. Should he do this, Hillary's lead in states where minority vote plays a big role will evaporate.

Also note the super delegates can and will as they did in 2008 leave Hillary and support Bernie.

**bsnub** · 19-02-2016, 12:25 PM

^ Bernie has a better chance to win in the general elections anyway. He has a commanding lead over all of the Republicans in the polls.

**misskit** · 19-02-2016, 12:37 PM

^^I saw in the Atlanta Journal, that a very influential Clinton supporter is now backing Sanders. Look what he says about Sanders policies benefitting his constituents. HuffPo picked up the news. Sanders spoke at Morehouse college this week.

Key Georgia Democrat Switches from Clinton to Sanders

The second most powerful Democrat in the Georgia State Senate on Tuesday switched his endorsement from Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders. The announcement from Sen. Vincent Fort came as Sanders worked to shore up his support among minority voters in the South, a voting bloc among which Clinton holds an electoral advantage over the Vermont senator.

“After months of looking at Bernie’s record and studying his positions on healthcare, Wall Street, predatory lending and the minimum wage, I came to the conclusion that Bernie’s position on the issues that affect my constituents in Georgia the most conform most closely to my positions,” Fort told the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

The African American lawmaker, who represents Fulton County and parts of Atlanta, said that Sanders is "speaking to the issues that are the most critical" to his constituents. “He’s going to do well here," Fort added. "As people study and listen to him, I think there’s going to be movement toward his campaign."

More here. Key Georgia Democrat Switches From Clinton To Sanders

**Norton** · 19-02-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

Key Georgia Democrat Switches from Clinton to Sanders

More to come for sure. Hillary recently recieved endorsement from the Congressional Black Caucus. A group of professional policians who have done little to address the general issues blacks face. Their endorsement means nothing to your average black. Particularly younger ones. Bernie is connecting with them. Hillary isn't hence her support among blacks nationally is declining.

**S Landreth** · 21-02-2016, 05:40 AM

Let’s take a look at where things stood the day before the Nevada Democratic Caucus, which I understand is a difficult state to poll.

Clinton chance of winning was at 72%
Clinton should have pulled in 52% of the states 43 delegates (more delegate news)

Results (with 93% of the results in),……..

Clinton wins
Clinton wins of 56% pledged delegates and 58% pledged and unpledged delegates

Originally Posted by longshot

I got a bargain for Bernie winning Nevada at nearly 3 to 1. 538 gives him a 50% chance of winning there.

You know there used to be another demented loser that used to post here and you could bet his predictions would be wrong 100% of the time. I don’t bet (for the most part), but please tell me longshot, who do you think will win the South Carolina primary? I might place a bet on the person you think will lose.

Looking ahead,…….

Looking further ahead,……

Maybe ?

**Troy** · 21-02-2016, 04:03 PM

I think Sanders needed Nevada to keep up the momentum if he was to be a serious challenge to Clinton. Still, it must have given her a little scare and possibly a little change to encompass some of his thoughts.

America simply isn't ready for Bernie just yet...Let's hope a younger version jumps into view next time.

**Mr Earl** · 22-02-2016, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Troy

I think Sanders needed Nevada to keep up the momentum if he was to be a serious challenge to Clinton. Still, it must have given her a little scare and possibly a little change to encompass some of his thoughts.

America simply isn't ready for Bernie just yet...Let's hope a younger version jumps into view next time.

Not sure why Nevada is deemed so important, not many people there. Still given the resources Clinton has you'd think she'd have won by a much bigger margin.

As far as America being ready for Bernie Sanders; America was ready for Bernie Sanders 50 years ago, imho.

**S Landreth** · 22-02-2016, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by Troy

I think Sanders needed Nevada to keep up the momentum if he was to be a serious challenge to Clinton. Still, it must have given her a little scare and possibly a little change to encompass some of his thoughts.

America simply isn't ready for Bernie just yet...Let's hope a younger version jumps into view next time.

Not sure why Nevada is deemed so important, not many people there.

You don’t pay very good attention, do you?

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Now on to Nevada where there’s a more diverse population

President Hillary Clinton

**Mr Earl** · 22-02-2016, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

You don’t pay very good attention, do you?

Honestly. when I see a page full of your stupid graphs and equations, I don't bother with any of it.

Ok so Nevada has a diverse albeit small population, which means Clinton big money would have more influence than a grassroots candidate like Sanders.
Do you have a cutesy graph comparing the money spent by each candidate?

Now that might be interesting.

And correlate that with the votes each received on a cutesy graph.

Now that might be interesting.

How about a graph delineating the level of bullshit with the amount of money spent?

Now that might be interesting.

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