Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Ok so Nevada has a diverse albeit small population, which means Clinton big money would have more influence than a grassroots candidate like Sanders.

I wasn't thinking along those lines Mr Earl. I was thinking more about the influence that early selections would have on later ones. With S.C. looking like a large victory for Ms Clinton, the win in Nevada will mean a 3-1 advantage going into 1st March. The fence sitters may just remain where they are instead of jumping on the Bernie bandwagon.

Will we be getting a twofer if Hillary is elected president? Just a thought that some voters may be considering.

^^ I'm still here dummy; celebrating rather prematurely I see.

I like sanders, but if Clinton is the nominee she will be destroyed, so it works out well for me. She is the epitome of the establishment in the year of the outsider.

You should be worried that Trump is within 5% given the things he has said and Clinton has already played every pandering card she has at her disposal. Its shocking how close they are.

And also in the only survey of likely voters he comes out ahead.

Suffolk University/USA Today (2/11-2/15 2016)

6) 2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Asked of 1,000 likely voters
Hillary Clinton (D) 43%
Donald Trump (R) 45%
Undecided 12%

Ah, 1000 voters is hardly a representative sample. Just sayin.

^ it can be. Depends on the sampling methodology. I don't know if it's a representative sample.

Anyway check the sampling sizes on all the other surveys; it's one of the larger ones.

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I don't think it means fuck all, especially at this stage of the game.

^ I don't think it means much beyond a gut check, but I am not the one constantly posting these polls. And i keep getting mentioned too.

My hope is for a Trump vs Sanders general election.

^Love it

In terms of potential match ups

I think in a Trump v Sanders, Sanders has the edge

Sanders v Rubio, Rubio has the edge

Rubio v Clinton, she will annihilate him

Clinton v Trump, good bye and good night Clinton.

^ yep a lot of people would come out to vote just because they hate Hillary.

Hillary is even more of a polarizing figure than Barry ever was, and Barry was just half black.

Hillary is all greedy, lying, bitch, 100%.

Trump is going to go the same way as Romney.

When he starts getting asked hard questions, it's not going to be enough to come out with the "The Chinese are killing us, we're going to bring jobs back from China, it's going to be amazing and huge, and we're going to make America great again" bullshit.

If you want to know what a lying, hypocritical cvnt looks like, peruse the image:

^ it's the point he is making, it's currently cheaper for him to make stuff in China than the usa, it's a purely business decision.

So as president he's going to insist that other businesses don't go for cheaper options like he himself did??

^ no he is going to ensure the trade deals don't give unfair advantages to counties like China. for example they manipulate their currency to make it artificially lower so us companies cannot compete.

And how exactly will he ensure that, a series of mean tweets?

Anyway that genie is well and truly out of the bottle. Artificial currency manipulation by the Chinese is outside of the scope of trade deals and the U.S. themselves are past masters of unfairly weighted and govt. subsidized trade deals.

Besides those are only small factors in a much larger puzzle. Americans won't work for less so they can't directly compete on labor costs and building that wall of his will keep out immigrants that would.

As has been pointed out already Trump's good at announcing grandiose visions but in the real world following up on them is another matter altogether. He can't 'make' the Chinese do anything - they'll tell him to go fuck himself... In Cantonese or whatever.

^ I think he was talking protectonism by imposing huuuge tariffs on imported goods in an attempt to stop US industry going overseas. I am not sure he understands the trade treaties currently in place nor how such attempts, in many cases, backfire.

Originally Posted by longway

^ no he is going to ensure the trade deals don't give unfair advantages to counties like China. for example they manipulate their currency to make it artificially lower so us companies cannot compete.

The fact is that Chinese can make shit cheaper and cnuts like Trump have been outsourcing to them to save money, and in the process have dented the US jobs market.

The only way to reverse that trend is to start making the shit in the US, but the associated increase in costs will result in an associated increase in prices.

Which wouldn't be a completely bad thing because it would create more jobs and bring in more money.

But it would also without a doubt increase personal debt and then you have another bubble ready to burst.

Trying anything else like a trade war when China's holding all your tickets is an absolute recipe for getting royally fucked up the arse.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^ yep a lot of people would come out to vote just because they hate Hillary.

Hillary is even more of a polarizing figure than Barry ever was, and Barry was just half black.

Hillary is all greedy, lying, bitch, 100%.

She can be linked to so many of the problems facing the USA today, NAFTA, the removal of Glass Steagall, the 2008 crsis, bad trade deals, Iraq, Libya Syria, ISIS etc, Trump will destroy her, it will be embarrassing for her, she is only strong in comparison with other shit candidates, like Rubio, Cruz, or Bush before he dropped out.

In your opinion. But then your objectivity in the matter is dubious at best. You seem harbor an almost pathological hated for the woman. And vaginas.

^ Again there is no attempt to debate the issues only ad hominen attacks. Whether I harbour a hatred or not is irrelevant; what is relevant are the points I bring up.

I despise her, and my reasons for despising her are well laid out. Its got nothing to do with her sex, but her record.

I think you need to look up ad hominem. I said that your objectivity about her is questionable: something you just substantiated again yourself in your post.

You despise her, in your own words, and the 'issues' as you put it are merely your opinions that flow from that. Why is it ok for you to abuse and denigrate but at even a hint of having your views questioned you get all precious and start bleating about personal attacks.