2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

**Norton** · 26-02-2015, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Just out of interest, who does the Demoprats have instead of sHillary?

A liberal with a war record is what we need. Even better an actor with a war record. GOP love folks like Reagan. Must be born in the US, of pale complextion, well known to your average joe, and have a christian father.

Jane Fonda?

**thaimeme** · 26-02-2015, 08:04 PM

The establishment is known for looking out for the public's best interest and well-being.

**thaimeme** · 26-02-2015, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Just out of interest, who does the Demoprats have instead of sHillary?

A liberal with a war record is what we need. Even better an actor with a war record. GOP love folks like Reagan. Must be born in the US, of pale complextion, well known to your average joe, and have a christian father.

Jane Fonda?

I don't believe [very] old Jane is the progressive she once was.

How 'bout a good "Liberal" [not] All-American war-torn veteran hypocrite such as John Kerry..??

**slackula** · 26-02-2015, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Calling it this is like calling drone bombs bringing peace.

They always call tyrannical acts the exact opposite and dumb asses fall for it every time.

You used to be interesting and I thought you would get this even if BM can't but you are out with the pixies on it.

"Net neutrality" is largely the defacto state. They're not really changing anything or rocking the boat, they're just codifying the status quo.

If you don't want anything to change then congrats: you support NN.

**harrybarracuda** · 27-02-2015, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Net Neutrality is nothing more than plain old censorship - jing jing, man

*sigh* Not it is not, it will go some way to preventing that actually.

The current system allows internet providers to reduce speeds or charge more for different websites in order to ensure access and make more money. For example, Comcast reduced Netflix's speed and then charged Netflix money to ensure that it didn't happen again. Basically, "pay us money and access to your website gets priority. Don't pay and nobody will see your content". It would be like AT&T charging the pizza place extra money on top of their phone bill to ensure that their phone calls didn't "accidentally" get dropped.

Regulating the internet as a utility would make those behaviors illegal and all traffic would have to be treated equally. Providers don't like this because it destroys a huge potential revenue stream. The controversy is that the cable companies have lots of money and lobbyists and the initial proposals by the FCC were entirely pro-cable company and screwed consumers pretty badly. Like made no attempt to even pretend to protect consumers bad and then the FCC acted all surprised when people threw a fit and the big technology companies waded into the fight on the neutrality side.

Another note that doesn't get mentioned enough: net neutrality is an old idea with a new name. When ISPs started business in the 90s, they had a philosophy that they kept their hands off the traffic. Not only was it a philosophy, but you didn't do it because you didn't want your peers to do the same thing to do.

Then Comcast comes along and is so big it feels it can throw this philosophy away.

So this is a case of "it IS broke and it NEEDS to be fixed," not the "OMG OBUMMER IS REGULATIN' THE INTERWEZ! FEEDOM!" crap that the teaparty has spouted.

He's not very bright you know.

**Boon Mee** · 28-02-2015, 05:59 AM

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

**harrybarracuda** · 28-02-2015, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

BENGHAZI!

And I see Fox did another "News Alert" yesterday from three blokes claiming they were told to delay something (although Fox kept saying "Stand Down").

Something to do with them having a book to sell.

Best you buy a copy right now Booners!

**Boon Mee** · 28-02-2015, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

I see Fox did another "News Alert" yesterday from three blokes claiming they were told to delay something (although Fox kept saying "Stand Down").

Glued to Fox News are ya Hairy?

**harrybarracuda** · 28-02-2015, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

I see Fox did another "News Alert" yesterday from three blokes claiming they were told to delay something (although Fox kept saying "Stand Down").

Glued to Fox News are ya Hairy?

When it's the only English speaking channel in the hotel other than the Bombay Broadcasting Service, yes.

**Boon Mee** · 28-02-2015, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

I see Fox did another "News Alert" yesterday from three blokes claiming they were told to delay something (although Fox kept saying "Stand Down").

Glued to Fox News are ya Hairy?

When it's the only English speaking channel in the hotel other than the Bombay Broadcasting Service, yes.

Well, it's nice to know that our Indian friends subscribe to objective news reporting, eh?

**harrybarracuda** · 28-02-2015, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Asking the important questions focused at the 'usual suspects' aboard here who support Piano Legs:

Why did Hillary, and Susan Rice, and everyone else keep lying about a video to get the film maker thrown in jail, eh?

Hillary Clinton’s Top Aides Knew from First Minutes that Benghazi Was a Terrorist Attack, E-mails Disclose.

National Review

I see Fox did another "News Alert" yesterday from three blokes claiming they were told to delay something (although Fox kept saying "Stand Down").

Glued to Fox News are ya Hairy?

When it's the only English speaking channel in the hotel other than the Bombay Broadcasting Service, yes.

Well, it's nice to know that our Indian friends subscribe to objective news reporting, eh?

Huh? You have Indian friends?

**Boon Mee** · 03-03-2015, 08:00 AM

Dem Maria Cardona Struggles to Defend Clinton’s Lack of Accomplishments at State Dept

Not even a Democratic strategist could deliver an accomplishment Hillary Clinton earned during her time as Secretary of State.

“Well, the short answer to that is that she focused on making sure that America was stronger abroad than it was when Obama took office,” strategist Maria Cardona said.

The other pundits on the roundtable rebuked her answer.

Republicans are sure to attack Clinton on her record as Secretary of State. The list of failed states in the Middle East grows, while the Islamic State poses a greater threat than ever before.

Mark Halperin challenged Cardona.

“Besides Iran and Cuba, name a country who the United States has better relationships with now than when President Obama took office,” Halperin said.

Cardona said that the world “is a complicated place.” She said Clinton had many back-door conversations that improved America’s standing in the world.

The translation of that response is that there is no strong answer. Clinton does not have a single identifiable accomplishment to showcase next to a string of disasters such as Benghazi during her time in Foggy Bottom."

Dem Maria Cardona Struggles to Defend Clinton?s Lack of Accomplishments at State Dept | Washington Free Beacon

Acomplishments while at Foggy Bottom?

How 'bout any accomplishments ever?

**Boon Mee** · 03-03-2015, 01:44 PM

Wow: Hillary Clinton Used A Private Email Account During Her Entire Tenure At State Department To Hide Every Email Communication.

Clinton used a domain registered to herself one week before her Senate confirmation hearings. Going to be tough for the MSM to sweep this under the rug, but they will find a way.

The New York Times reported Monday night that, during her tenure at the State Department, Hillary Clinton never used her official email account to conduct communications, relying instead on a private email account. As the Times notes, only official accounts are automatically retained under the Federal Records Act, meaning that none of Clinton’s email communication was preserved.

In March 2013, an adviser to Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal, had his email hacked by “Guccifer” — the Romanian hacker perhaps best known for revealing George W. Bush’s paintings to the world. At the time, Gawker reported that Blumenthal was communicating with an account that appeared to belong to Clinton at the “clintonemail.com” domain. The content of some of those emails was published by RT.com.

Examining the registry information for “clintonemail.com” reveals that the domain was first created on January 13, 2009 — one week before President Obama was sworn into office, and the same day that Clinton’s confirmation hearings began before the Senate."

Hacked emails indicate that Hillary Clinton used a domain registered the day of her Senate hearings - The Washington Post

Nothing to see here - move along. And besides, what does it matter?

**Boon Mee** · 04-03-2015, 05:47 AM

Hillary Clinton's Private E-Mail Draws Scrutiny

Wanna drop 'ol Piano Legs a line or two?

[email protected].

Tell her that she'd make a great POTUS!

Hillary Clinton's Private E-Mail Draws Scrutiny | The Smoking Gun

**robuzo** · 04-03-2015, 08:59 AM

Sorry, SL, but this is bad. Nominating her at this point would be monumentally stupid:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us...ses-flags.html
WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton exclusively used a personal email account to conduct government business as secretary of state, State Department officials said, and may have violated federal requirements that officials’ correspondence be retained as part of the agency’s record.

Mrs. Clinton did not have a government email address during her four-year tenure at the State Department. Her aides took no actions to have her personal emails preserved on department servers at the time, as required by the Federal Records Act.

It was only two months ago, in response to a new State Department effort to comply with federal record-keeping practices, that Mrs. Clinton’s advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails and decided which ones to turn over to the State Department. All told, 55,000 pages of emails were given to the department. Mrs. Clinton stepped down from the secretary’s post in early 2013.

Her expansive use of the private account was alarming to current and former National Archives and Records Administration officials and government watchdogs, who called it a serious breach.

“It is very difficult to conceive of a scenario — short of nuclear winter — where an agency would be justified in allowing its cabinet-level head officer to solely use a private email communications channel for the conduct of government business,” said Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle & Reath who is a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration.

A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, Nick Merrill, defended her use of the personal email account and said she has been complying with the “letter and spirit of the rules.”

Under federal law, however, letters and emails written and received by federal officials, such as the secretary of state, are considered government records and are supposed to be retained so that congressional committees, historians and members of the news media can find them. There are exceptions to the law for certain classified and sensitive materials.

Mrs. Clinton is not the first government official — or first secretary of state — to use a personal email account on which to conduct official business. But her exclusive use of her private email, for all of her work, appears unusual, Mr. Baron said. The use of private email accounts is supposed to be limited to emergencies, experts said, such as when an agency’s computer server is not working.

“I can recall no instance in my time at the National Archives when a high-ranking official at an executive branch agency solely used a personal email account for the transaction of government business,” said Mr. Baron, who worked at the agency from 2000 to 2013.

Regulations from the National Archives and Records Administration at the time required that any emails sent or received from personal accounts be preserved as part of the agency’s records.

But Mrs. Clinton and her aides failed to do so.

How many emails were in Mrs. Clinton’s account is not clear, and neither is the process her advisers used to determine which ones related to her work at the State Department before turning them over.

“It’s a shame it didn’t take place automatically when she was secretary of state as it should have,” said Thomas S. Blanton, the director of the National Security Archive, a group based at George Washington University that advocates government transparency. “Someone in the State Department deserves credit for taking the initiative to ask for the records back. Most of the time it takes the threat of litigation and embarrassment.”

Mr. Blanton said high-level officials should operate as President Obama does, emailing from a secure government account, with every record preserved for historical purposes.

“Personal emails are not secure,” he said. “Senior officials should not be using them.”

Penalties for not complying with federal record-keeping requirements are rare, because the National Archives has few enforcement abilities.

Mr. Merrill, the spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, declined to detail why she had chosen to conduct State Department business from her personal account. He said that because Mrs. Clinton had been sending emails to other State Department officials at their government accounts, she had “every expectation they would be retained.” He did not address emails that Mrs. Clinton may have sent to foreign leaders, people in the private sector or government officials outside the State Department.

The revelation about the private email account echoes longstanding criticisms directed at both the former secretary and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, for a lack of transparency and inclination toward secrecy.

And others who, like Mrs. Clinton, are eyeing a candidacy for the White House are stressing a very different approach. Jeb Bush, who is seeking the Republican nomination for president, released a trove of emails in December from his eight years as governor of Florida.

It is not clear whether Mrs. Clinton’s private email account included encryption or other security measures, given the sensitivity of her diplomatic activity.

Mrs. Clinton’s successor, Secretary of State John Kerry, has used a government email account since taking over the role, and his correspondence is being preserved contemporaneously as part of State Department records, according to his aides.

Before the current regulations went into effect, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, used personal email to communicate with American officials and ambassadors and foreign leaders.

Last October, the State Department, as part of the effort to improve its record keeping, asked all previous secretaries of state dating back to Madeleine K. Albright to provide it with any records, like emails, from their time in office for preservation.

“These steps include regularly archiving all of Secretary Kerry’s emails to ensure that we are capturing all federal records,” said a department spokeswoman, Jen Psaki.

The existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi as it sought correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and her aides about the attack.

Two weeks ago, the State Department, after reviewing Mrs. Clinton’s emails, provided the committee with about 300 emails — amounting to roughly 900 pages — about the Benghazi attacks.

Mrs. Clinton and the committee declined to comment on the contents of the emails or whether they will be made public.

The State Department, Ms. Psaki said, “has been proactively and consistently engaged in responding to the committee’s many requests in a timely manner, providing more than 40,000 pages of documents, scheduling more than 20 transcribed interviews and participating in several briefings and each of the committee’s hearings.”

**pseudolus** · 04-03-2015, 02:44 PM

^ Yup - it seems that the owners of the US has decided that they want Jeb Bush to be president after all. Might as well close this thread now and await the avalanche of inside information leaked out about sHillary in the near future.

**harrybarracuda** · 04-03-2015, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Hillary Clinton's Private E-Mail Draws Scrutiny

Wanna drop 'ol Piano Legs a line or two?

[email protected].

Tell her that she'd make a great POTUS!

Hillary Clinton's Private E-Mail Draws Scrutiny | The Smoking Gun

Who doesn't have a private email account for the bit on the side?

Do you think it was only Bill playing away from home?

**buriramboy** · 04-03-2015, 05:48 PM

Who's the republican front runner these days then to save America from Hillary, Donald Trump???? I think Hillary's election will be good for the continued demise of the US so vote Hillary.

**BobR** · 04-03-2015, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ Yup - it seems that the owners of the US has decided that they want Jeb Bush to be president after all. Might as well close this thread now and await the avalanche of inside information leaked out about sHillary in the near future.

Families that destroy countries, it's not just a Thai thing. Sad thing is, much like here there are enough fools at home to vote him in. Sadly Romney and Hilary both seem little better.

**thaimeme** · 04-03-2015, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ Yup - it seems that the owners of the US has decided that they want Jeb Bush to be president after all. Might as well close this thread now and await the avalanche of inside information leaked out about sHillary in the near future.

Doesn't matter who takes that office, as they historically work for the same club.

**S Landreth** · 05-03-2015, 03:01 PM

The first poll in March. Rasmussen poll

Walker,……..don’t some of us wish. If it was Walker it could be the largest presidential landslide victory for a Dem in recent history.

Lions, tigers, Benghazi and emails. Oh my

**harrybarracuda** · 05-03-2015, 03:19 PM

You don't think that's going to stop the latest Faux News "scandal" do you?

**bsnub** · 05-03-2015, 04:23 PM

Of course Faux news cared less when Colin Powell did it.

Secretary of State Colin Powell Also Used Personal Email Account | Mediaite

**importford** · 05-03-2015, 05:07 PM

government email accounts were hacked by the Chinese mafia,...

**S Landreth** · 05-03-2015, 07:34 PM

Another poll became available this early morning and again, it’s all blue.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

The first poll in March. Rasmussen poll

Walker,……..don’t some of us wish. If it was Walker it could be the largest presidential landslide victory for a Dem in recent history.

Lions, tigers, Benghazi and emails. Oh my

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