Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Norton

I'm all for equality across the board but the ad is crap because it is a direct appeal to support Hillary because she is a woman.

Might even work if 9-year-old girls could vote.

9 year olds have moms.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Humbert

An ad that appeals to the aspirations of young girls is 'sad crap'?

I'm all for equality across the board but the ad is crap because it is a direct appeal to support Hillary because she is a woman. I don't care the gender, race, religion or whatever of the president. Frankly most women don't care either. They as I want to hear what a candidate intends to do about domestic and international issues.

No doubt there are gender inequalities but this ad implies a vote for Hillary will eliminate the inequalties. There are all sorts of laws in place that prohibit gender discrimination.

Does anyone really believe Hillary can or will magically fix gender inequality?

Nope, the ad is a blatant attempt to get females to vote for Hillary.

She'll get a vast majority of the female vote anyway and given her likely GOP opponent easily win the presidency.

Misogynist dinosaurs like yourselves are precisely why appealing to women voters on certain issues is a very clever idea. To say they don't care about equal pay is demented.

After allowing the Paycheck Fairness Act to move forward last week, Senate Republicans turned around on Monday evening and unanimously voted to block the bill, which would ban salary secrecy and tighten rules to try to narrow the gender wage gap.
The vote came weeks after the Republican National Committee claimed that “All Republicans support equal pay.” Senate Republicans have unanimously shot the bill down multiple times over the past four years.
The bill includes a number of provisions aimed at preventing the gender wage gap in the first place, which currently means a woman who works full time, year round makes 77 percent of what a similar man makes and hasn’t budged in a decade.

Republicans Unanimously Block Equal Pay Bill | ThinkProgress

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Humbert

An ad that appeals to the aspirations of young girls is 'sad crap'?

I'm all for equality across the board but the ad is crap because it is a direct appeal to support Hillary because she is a woman. I don't care the gender, race, religion or whatever of the president. Frankly most women don't care either. They as I want to hear what a candidate intends to do about domestic and international issues.

No doubt there are gender inequalities but this ad implies a vote for Hillary will eliminate the inequalties. There are all sorts of laws in place that prohibit gender discrimination.

Does anyone really believe Hillary can or will magically fix gender inequality?

Nope, the ad is a blatant attempt to get females to vote for Hillary.

She'll get a vast majority of the female vote anyway and given her likely GOP opponent easily win the presidency.

Misogynist dinosaurs like yourselves are precisely why appealing to women voters on certain issues is a very clever idea. To say they don't care about equal pay is demented.

After allowing the Paycheck Fairness Act to move forward last week, Senate Republicans turned around on Monday evening and unanimously voted to block the bill, which would ban salary secrecy and tighten rules to try to narrow the gender wage gap.
The vote came weeks after the Republican National Committee claimed that “All Republicans support equal pay.” Senate Republicans have unanimously shot the bill down multiple times over the past four years.
The bill includes a number of provisions aimed at preventing the gender wage gap in the first place, which currently means a woman who works full time, year round makes 77 percent of what a similar man makes and hasn’t budged in a decade.

Republicans Unanimously Block Equal Pay Bill | ThinkProgress

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

No, they generally earn less than men for the same job hence the term "gender wage gap".

http://www.livescience.com/39124-wom...-than-men.html

"Women who work in engineering or optics earn less than men, and the wage gap peaks mid-career, a new survey finds.

Median salaries for men in these fields were 36 percent higher overall than for women. The median salary for men was $79,755, compared with $58,431 for women."

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

Good grief, where have you been hiding?

It's called a gap, not because a nuclear physicist male is compared to a burger flipper at some joint in San Antone . . Good grief.

Compare like to like, obviously

Originally Posted by RPETER65

library science

Originally Posted by RPETER65

teachers

Jaysus Christo

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Originally Posted by longshot

Just check out her forthcoming ad and tell me again its not an very sexist campaign.

“her”?

hope you didn’t place any bets on the statement you made above,…..

leaked/Unreleased video by BillforFirstLady2016, creator Luke Montgomery

BillForFirstLady2016.com is a national online grassroots movement of young Americans who support women’s and LGBT equality working to elect Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 and make "herstory" by putting a woman in the White House. “Bill for First Lady” is a can’t-help-but-smile way to say “Hillary for president!"

Paid for by BillForFirstLady2016.com Not Authorized by any Candidate or Candidate's Committee.

By the way, how does your bet look for Clinton vs Trump?

Not that good?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Carson tops former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 50 - 40 percent in the final face-off.

** Pretty much knew the Quinnipac polls were no longer giving Landreth the joy they once were.

I don’t think anyone is concerned with a Carson vs Clinton match up. At least not on the Democratic side of the aisle.

pyramids full of grain
Noah’s Ark was real [when did ship building (of that size) start anyway?]

Our next president (no not ),……

feeling damn good on the bet, im surprised at how well trump is holding up. trump actually has one unique selling point, that is far more powerful than shillary's selling point - her vagina, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for voters - he has his own money, now that is special. shillary's corporately owned vagina vs a man who can fund his own campaign and be his own man, it will be a very compelling race.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Humbert

An ad that appeals to the aspirations of young girls is 'sad crap'?

I'm all for equality across the board but the ad is crap because it is a direct appeal to support Hillary because she is a woman. I don't care the gender, race, religion or whatever of the president. Frankly most women don't care either. They as I want to hear what a candidate intends to do about domestic and international issues.

No doubt there are gender inequalities but this ad implies a vote for Hillary will eliminate the inequalties. There are all sorts of laws in place that prohibit gender discrimination.

Does anyone really believe Hillary can or will magically fix gender inequality?

Nope, the ad is a blatant attempt to get females to vote for Hillary.

She'll get a vast majority of the female vote anyway and given her likely GOP opponent easily win the presidency.

Misogynist dinosaurs like yourselves are precisely why appealing to women voters on certain issues is a very clever idea. To say they don't care about equal pay is demented.

After allowing the Paycheck Fairness Act to move forward last week, Senate Republicans turned around on Monday evening and unanimously voted to block the bill, which would ban salary secrecy and tighten rules to try to narrow the gender wage gap.
The vote came weeks after the Republican National Committee claimed that “All Republicans support equal pay.” Senate Republicans have unanimously shot the bill down multiple times over the past four years.
The bill includes a number of provisions aimed at preventing the gender wage gap in the first place, which currently means a woman who works full time, year round makes 77 percent of what a similar man makes and hasn’t budged in a decade.

Republicans Unanimously Block Equal Pay Bill | ThinkProgress

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

Are you sure you aren't Booners in disguise?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's funny how some on the Right co-opt things like racism and sexism to portray themselves as the victim(s). By "funny" I mean 'pathetic'.

Originally Posted by panama hat

By 'pathetic' I mean 'moronic'

The fuckwits are back, what a pair of wankers.

Originally Posted by longway

and i am pointing out that shillary's campaign is based on sexism

And I am pointing out that you are quite probably mentally retarded. Quite probably

Originally Posted by longway

The fuckwits are back, what a pair of wankers.

Yes, luckily you are normal and write this:

Originally Posted by longway

btw did you ever wonder why an employer would pay one worker more than another worker, if they did the same job? do you really think they would fork out more cash unless there was a discernable difference between the 2? why not just hire another woman and pay her less too? why get an expensive man?

The good thing is that you'd buck the trend and get paid less than a woman simply because you're . . . well . . . retarded

^ The call me names fuckwits just dont let up do they?

Empty hat and no trousers, soon to be followed by his idiot friend no doubt.

Originally Posted by longway

fuckwits

Originally Posted by longway

wankers

Originally Posted by longway

The call me names fuckwits just dont let up do they?

Another genius is born

^ I am just responding in kind empty hat. neither of you 2 fuckwits actually address the substance, you simply call me names.

Originally Posted by longway

The fuckwits are back

Originally Posted by longway

what a pair of wankers

Originally Posted by longway

The call me names fuckwits just dont let up do they?

Originally Posted by longway

Empty hat and no trousers

Originally Posted by longway

his idiot friend

Originally Posted by longway

empty hat

Originally Posted by longway

you 2 fuckwits

Quality - all this in just three posts. Impressive

Originally Posted by Norton

I hired hundreds of women all over the world and not once did I give a thought to pay them less than male counter parts.

Your early and single years in Bangkok are not at issue here, nor are your sexual peccadilloes.


Having said that, I think you're quite off-base about Norton, harry. He is easily one of the good guys here

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Misogynist dinosaurs like yourselves

Let's get something straight right now. You know nothing about me but here is a hint. Long before it was en vogue I hired hundreds of women all over the world and not once did I give a thought to pay them less than male counter parts.

You clearly have no desire to seriously debate any subject without resorting to name calling when an opinion doesn't fit your predetermined partisan blindered opinion.

The ad in question is not clever. It is a blatant attempt to garner votes because of her gender which for many women an insult to their intelligence.

Hope Hillary never allows this "leaked" video to air. Will do more harm than good.

Wonder what response an ad stating; vote for me, I'm black and will fix all racial inequalities?

You may very well try and paint yourself as a knight in shining armour, but you seem to disregard the fact that there has NEVER been a female President (or even Vice President) in the history of the US.

This current congress is about 80% male (and 80%) white, so don't tell me that "There are all sorts of laws in place that prohibit gender discrimination", because that means precisely squit.

Since she as at a predisposed disadvantage of being a woman, there is absolutely nothing wrong with her appealing to the female vote.

As usual, it is Republicans that squash equal pay legislation, as they still think women, Hillary included, should be in the kitchen making dinner, cleaning the house or taking care of the kids.

Note, however, that I did not call you a "Republican misogynist dinosaur".

Even I have morals.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

Good grief, where have you been hiding?

It's called a gap, not because a nuclear physicist male is compared to a burger flipper at some joint in San Antone . . Good grief.

Compare like to like, obviously

Originally Posted by RPETER65

library science

Originally Posted by RPETER65

teachers

Jaysus Christo

Well that is not what I read, the national statistics on the wage gap between men and women lump all catagories together and come up with a median wage for both men and women.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Could that descrepancy be because of different career choices from men to women, in other words do women engineers make less than their male counter parts or could it be more women go into the lower paying professions like teachers or library science?

Good grief, where have you been hiding?

It's called a gap, not because a nuclear physicist male is compared to a burger flipper at some joint in San Antone . . Good grief.

Compare like to like, obviously

Originally Posted by RPETER65

library science

Originally Posted by RPETER65

teachers

Jaysus Christo

Five Jobs Where Women and Men Have Equal Earning Power

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Five Jobs Where Women and Men Have Equal Earning Power
Five Jobs Where Women’s Salaries Equal (or Exceed) Men’

By Lydia Dishman, PayScale.com

Research from the Institute for Women’s Policy Research (IWPR) shows that if the gender wage gap continues to close as slowly as it has over the last 50 years, it will take until 2056 for women’s earnings to equal men’s.

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“The labor market has changed dramatically during the last few decades,” says Heidi Hartmann, IWPR president. “Women’s labor force participation has shot up and women are receiving college degrees and graduate degrees at faster rates than men -- yet the gender wage gap is improving very slowly.”

But that’s not necessarily true across the board, according to Katie Bardaro, lead analyst at online salary database PayScale.com. The frequently quoted statistic that women earn 77 cents for every dollar men earn is based on an overview of all pay, for all jobs in every industry, she says. “It doesn’t take into account factors such as women tending to take jobs in lower-paying industries such as healthcare or teaching,” Bardaro says. In fact, “if you hold everything constant, women and men hold the same wage in a variety of jobs,” she says.

Based on PayScale’s study of compensation for full-time, private-sector employees in typically male-dominated industries, here’s a look at five careers that pay equal or slightly higher wages for women.

1. Systems Engineer
Female Median Annual Salary: $72,300
Male Median Annual Salary: $71,500

Systems engineering is hot right now, especially in technology hubs such as Silicon Valley. Many engineers hold undergraduate degrees in computer science or math and work for a variety of companies and may have flexible schedules. Some who work for software vendors and consulting firms travel frequently, while others telecommute. Because IT is a relatively new profession, “it looks as if, from the beginning, there was less discrimination against women,” says Ariane Hegewisch, the IWPR’s study director.

Find systems engineer jobs.

2. Electrical Engineer
Female Median Annual Salary: $66,000
Male Median Annual Salary: $66,000

Electrical engineers don’t just work on power generators; they test equipment and design new and better electronics for everything from lighting and wiring in buildings to radar and navigation systems. These industries are historically more likely to be unionized, which helps to keep pay more equitable, says Hegewisch.

Find electrical engineer jobs.

3. Mechanical Engineer
Female Median Annual Salary: $61,100
Male Median Annual Salary: $60,400

Mechanical engineers have a hand in creating better car engines, steam and gas turbines, air conditioners, elevators and escalators, and even the robots used in manufacturing. A four-year degree is usually required to start. Data from the Engineering Workforce Commission indicates that 2.24 percent more women earned BS degrees in mechanical engineering in 2011 than they did five years before.

Find mechanical engineer jobs.

4. Videographer
Female Median Annual Salary: $39,300
Male Median Annual Salary: $38,800

Camera operators shoot video for television programs, music videos, motion pictures, documentaries and training sessions. Richard Pierce, spokesperson for New York University’s Tisch School of the Arts, says the school has encouraged women to enroll in the program by making female high school students aware of scholarship opportunities available to women only. He also says the growth of independent films has contributed to the number of women videographers.

Find videographer jobs.

5. Computer Repair Technician
Female Median Annual Salary: $31,500
Male Median Annual Salary: $31,500

Computer repair is no longer just for the guys, partly because schools offering certificate and associate’s degree programs are recruiting more women, Bardaro says. The big win is that repair techs can earn degrees online and have flexible work schedules, she says. “With more opportunities to work from home…this field is more attractive to working moms,” Bardaro says.

Find computer repair technician jobs.

Source: All salary data provided by online salary database PayScale.com. Salaries listed are median, annual salaries for full-time employees of each gender at all years of experience and include any bonuses, commissions or profit sharing. The annual pay for the different genders was calculated by determining the characteristics of a “typical” male worker -- such as experience, education, company size, etc. -- then comparing pay for female workers who have the same characteristics. This method ensures an apples-to-apples comparison of pay between genders.

career-advice.monster.com

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by longway

and i am pointing out that shillary's campaign is based on sexism

And I am pointing out that you are quite probably mentally retarded. Quite probably

Originally Posted by longway

The fuckwits are back, what a pair of wankers.

Yes, luckily you are normal and write this:

Originally Posted by longway

btw did you ever wonder why an employer would pay one worker more than another worker, if they did the same job? do you really think they would fork out more cash unless there was a discernable difference between the 2? why not just hire another woman and pay her less too? why get an expensive man?

The good thing is that you'd buck the trend and get paid less than a woman simply because you're . . . well . . . retarded

And the real fact is you have no answer for the question.

Originally Posted by longway

^ The call me names fuckwits just dont let up do they?

Empty hat and no trousers, soon to be followed by his idiot friend no doubt.

Let's name the f*ckwits. So that we all know. Islamic state terrorist Neverna, Brain Dead Panama Hat, now Stroller made some good point on other thread so not sure about him. Land of confusion

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Misogynist dinosaurs like yourselves

Let's get something straight right now. You know nothing about me but here is a hint. Long before it was en vogue I hired hundreds of women all over the world and not once did I give a thought to pay them less than male counter parts.

You clearly have no desire to seriously debate any subject without resorting to name calling when an opinion doesn't fit your predetermined partisan blindered opinion.

The ad in question is not clever. It is a blatant attempt to garner votes because of her gender which for many women an insult to their intelligence.

Hope Hillary never allows this "leaked" video to air. Will do more harm than good.

Wonder what response an ad stating; vote for me, I'm black and will fix all racial inequalities?

You may very well try and paint yourself as a knight in shining armour, but you seem to disregard the fact that there has NEVER been a female President (or even Vice President) in the history of the US.

This current congress is about 80% male (and 80%) white, so don't tell me that "There are all sorts of laws in place that prohibit gender discrimination", because that means precisely squit.

Since she as at a predisposed disadvantage of being a woman, there is absolutely nothing wrong with her appealing to the female vote.

As usual, it is Republicans that squash equal pay legislation, as they still think women, Hillary included, should be in the kitchen making dinner, cleaning the house or taking care of the kids.

Note, however, that I did not call you a "Republican misogynist dinosaur".

Even I have morals.

You are using percentages of people voted into positions as comparables for gender discrimination, what do you suggest rules on who one can vote for based on percentages of men and women in those positions, maybe a law demanding every other presidential term has to be a women.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You are using percentages of people voted into positions as comparables for gender discrimination, what do you suggest rules on who one can vote for based on percentages of men and women in those positions, maybe a law demanding every other presidential term has to be a women.

I didn't suggest any rules.

I simply pointed out the facts.

It's up to the parties themselves to start picking female candidates on merit, rather than their mates on a dodgy handshake.

Of course women can help in this by getting out and voting for pro-equality candidates - i.e. not Republicans.