War in Iran - likely?

[pseudolus]

The confirmation of Hagel as US sec Def makes one think that war in Iran is not going to happen with Mr Peace Obama in office unless having broken him already, AIPAC want to see him prove his loyalty with an attack in their neck of the woods.

However, it will come, and I assume Israel will launch nukes at Iran by the end of the year; Iran will destroy Israel in a land war through pure numbers of troops, so Nuke it will be




The reason? Apparently it is Iran building Nukes. But wait a moment, Mossad and the CIA say they are not!

Recent assessments by American spy agencies are broadly consistent with a 2007 intelligence finding that concluded that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program years earlier, according to current and former American officials. The officials said that assessment was largely reaffirmed in a 2010 National Intelligence Estimate, and that it remains the consensus view of America’s 16 intelligence agencies.

Israel though are still ploughing ahead with their fantasies and rhetoric with a special bonding moment of Joe "You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist" Biden (no shit..Zionists are Jewish either) hearing

"Frankly, while exhausting all diplomatic means is understandable, I do not believe it will lead to a moment of truth when the ayatollahs will give up their nuclear situation. Therefore, all options must remain on the table," Barak said on Sunday.

"We expect all those who say it to mean it. Ladies and gentlemen, we mean it. And let me repeat it, we mean it," he added forcefully.

AIPAC, which touts itself as the most influential US foreign policy lobby, will also hear a speech live from Netanyahu on Monday via video link, following an address by US Vice President Joe Biden.

They call the mostly peaceful Iran (only had Iran - Iraq war because Iraq, pushed by the USA had invaded Iran lets not forget, and they fought to liberate themselves...freedom, .... liberty...and all that stuff) a rogue state; a threat to the worlds security. But excuse me a moment, Iran are signed up to the Non-Proliferation Treaty hence the inspectors, and fully co-operate with them and even so are being hit with sanctions all the time.

Now Israel on the other hand, have not signed up to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, have no inspections, will not tell anyone they have nukes, but they clearly do having been sold them by the US



So surely, we should all be having a war against Israel?

They have nukes, do not cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency. They are overtly aggressive, warmongering, unstable and are openly invading another country. They commit war crimes on a daily basis. Is the reason they get away with it simply that Israel has no Oil and Gas reserves to interest the US or is it slightly more sinister than that?

[blue]

Iran will destroy Israel in a land war through pure numbers of troops

how come they did not destroy iraq in the 1980 - 1988 war , they out numbered them too

[bsnub]

I assume Israel will launch nukes at Iran by the end of the year

Not going to happen.

Iran will destroy Israel in a land war through pure numbers of troops

You are off your rocker to make a statement like this. Iran fought Iraq for 8 years and was never successful in penetrating more then a few miles into Iraq. They utilized antiqued tactics like the "human wave" assault. Israel would massacre the Iranians who also lack the logistical capability to launch a ground attack on Israel.

[Necron99]

Another pseudo thread.
How do Iran invade Israel without an Air Force?

[pseudolus]

Thick aussie - Israel will invade Iran, not the other way round. Iran are mostly peaceful, Israel are not n'est ce pas?

BSNub - Iran would never attack Israel, why would they? They will be attacked by Israel though and the war will be immense ending in Nukes from Israel - As Kissinger said, and he knows the score.

Surely though we should be intervening in Israel though? Sending the troop there? Having a no fly zone? Sanctions until the chuck their nukes away?

[blue]

Israel will invade Iran, not the other way round

Invade
Verb
(of an armed force or its commander) Enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it:

Iran would never attack Israel, why would they?

they already do attack it verbally , and by sending weapons to surrounding countries

[pseudolus]

they already do attack it verbally , and by sending weapons to surrounding countries

So it's fine for the yanks to send weapons, planes, nukes to Israel, but not OK for other countries to send arms to Palestine and Lebanon? Two countries occupied illegally? Why not? Why is that fair?

Do me a favour - just because the AIPAC says they are terrorists, surely no right thinking person would believe that bullshit?

[raycarey]

Israel will launch nukes at Iran by the end of the year

i'll go and mark my calendar.

[Jesus Jones]

Thick aussie - Israel will invade Iran, not the other way round. Iran are mostly peaceful, Israel are not n'est ce pas?

BSNub - Iran would never attack Israel, why would they? They will be attacked by Israel though and the war will be immense ending in Nukes from Israel - As Kissinger said, and he knows the score.

Surely though we should be intervening in Israel though? Sending the troop there? Having a no fly zone? Sanctions until the chuck their nukes away?

If there is such a devil, Kissinger, the puppet master is it!

[the dogcatcher]

Have'nt had a decent war in a while.
Hope CNN are there.

[Jesus Jones]

In the meantime Russian officials said the US should be held at gunpoint. I totally understand why the would say that.

[Rural Surin]

Dr. War himself.
I would always be suspiscious of the likes of Henry Kissinger.

He has shown his real worth and soul - past and present.
Yet, he is looked upon as the wise old scholar and diplomat in many circles.

Evil identified.

[james777]

Henry Kissinger is a war criminal of the highest order.

[Norton]

some say the death rate was even higher, at close to a million people - because Kissinger could see that there was money to be made!

Most estimates have it at 300,000. Kissinger now sits on the board of the company acquiring mineral rights in West Papua.

[barbaro]

The confirmation of Hagel as US sec Def makes one think that war in Iran is not going to happen with Mr Peace Obama in office unless having broken him already, AIPAC want to see him prove his loyalty with an attack in their neck of the woods.

War was never going to happen with Iran.

It was only going to be surgical strike. Obama is not a factor. GWB was asked to assist Israel to attack Iran and he said 'no.'

[Rural Surin]

The confirmation of Hagel as US sec Def makes one think that war in Iran is not going to happen with Mr Peace Obama in office unless having broken him already, AIPAC want to see him prove his loyalty with an attack in their neck of the woods.

War was never going to happen with Iran.

It was only going to be surgical strike. Obama is not a factor. GWB was asked to assist Israel to attack Iran and he said 'no.'

As the Israelis won't act without Washington's apporoval.
That's the way it really is.

[Carrabow]

With the current tempo in the ME, one would think the whole region will implode (politically).

It is only my opinion, but Iran talks too much shite. Their military is a joke, the navy uses iron coffins and logistically they are fooked. Israel would eat them alive.

[pseudolus]

The confirmation of Hagel as US sec Def makes one think that war in Iran is not going to happen with Mr Peace Obama in office unless having broken him already, AIPAC want to see him prove his loyalty with an attack in their neck of the woods.

War was never going to happen with Iran.

It was only going to be surgical strike. Obama is not a factor. GWB was asked to assist Israel to attack Iran and he said 'no.'

As the Israelis won't act without Washington's apporoval.
That's the way it really is.

I think you will find it is the other way round - US would not do anything without Isreals approval. As you will see from the 100+ UN resolutions Israel have ignored in relation to Lebanon and Gaza...they don't give a fuck and no one has the balls to make them comply to anything.

[Boon Mee]

Surely though we should be intervening in Israel though? Sending the troop there? Having a no fly zone? Sanctions until the chuck their nukes away?

We're sure that'll work out just fine...

[rickschoppers]

I am still at a loss as to why we don't just leave that part of the world alone. It seems we learned nothing from the Vietnam conflict even though several US politicians are Vietnam Vets. America needs to understand that if left alone, the middle east will implode due to their religious disagreements.

The US needs to go back to being isolationists and take care of their own problems and not try to invoke our idea of democracy on every little nation that has their own idea of how their country should be run. It is not that difficult since all we need to do is ignore all the domino theory assholes that have been around since the Korean War.

What would this world be like if the US just kept out of all the others business? Maybe we could see how the natural order of things would progress. Maybe all the Islamic extremists would be so busy fighting each other that the rest of the world could work on fixing problems at home. Maybe after years of war between these extremists there would be no need for a war on terror. Maybe once the Islamic foundation is crushed, the only fear of flying we would have would be getting to our destination on time. Maybe, maybe, maybe.............

The US needs to leave the rest of the world alone and get back to solving our economic fiasco and work on having better and smarter politicians.

Sorry about the rant, but I just get sick and tired of hearing about middle east issues and how everyone else wants to solve them except the middle easterners themselves.

[Butterfly]

I don't see how Israel could nuke Iran and not be affected by it,

Israel is a rogue dog, an illegal invasion of the US for a regime change would be a positive move for once

[Jesus Jones]

I am still at a loss as to why we don't just leave that part of the world alone. It seems we learned nothing from the Vietnam conflict even though several US politicians are Vietnam Vets. America needs to understand that if left alone, the middle east will implode due to their religious disagreements.

The US needs to go back to being isolationists and take care of their own problems and not try to invoke our idea of democracy on every little nation that has their own idea of how their country should be run. It is not that difficult since all we need to do is ignore all the domino theory assholes that have been around since the Korean War.

What would this world be like if the US just kept out of all the others business? Maybe we could see how the natural order of things would progress. Maybe all the Islamic extremists would be so busy fighting each other that the rest of the world could work on fixing problems at home. Maybe after years of war between these extremists there would be no need for a war on terror. Maybe once the Islamic foundation is crushed, the only fear of flying we would have would be getting to our destination on time. Maybe, maybe, maybe.............

The US needs to leave the rest of the world alone and get back to solving our economic fiasco and work on having better and smarter politicians.

Sorry about the rant, but I just get sick and tired of hearing about middle east issues and how everyone else wants to solve them except the middle easterners themselves.

If only more people listened to the likes of Ron Paul!

[Jesus Jones]

At the end of his first overseas trip as Secretary of State, John Kerry acknowledged that despite the continued diplomacy and tough sanctions being leveled against Iran, the regime continues to get closer to possessing a nuclear weapon.

"Lines have been drawn before and they've been passed," Kerry said. "That's why the president has been so definitive this time. This is a very challenging moment with great risks and stakes for everybody because the region will be far less stable and far more threatened if Iran were to have a nuclear weapon."

John Kerry Concedes Iran Is Moving Closer to Possessing Nuclear Weapon - ABC News

[pseudolus]

If only more people listened to the likes of Ron Paul!

He's been neutralised by the Media though; ridiculed and been made into a monster because he was talking the truth.

He's been shut down completely mostly due to not signing the AIPAC pledge showing allegiance to Israel, and Obama publicly sucking Israel off here. Some are too blind to see things this way; chucking out the anti-semitic slur just because Paul say the US should not be fighting Israel's wars for them. Ignorant cocks.



Might be worth noting his comment about the Goldstone report on Gaza where this South African Jewish Judge came out and said Israel were targeting civilians in Gaza and killing them by the bus load (all true of course). Next minit... he is labelled a ""self-hating Jew" and a Jewish antisemite.", publicly ridiculed by the ADL and AIPAC lobby, as well as every US politician supported (financially) by AIPAC, and he goes on to change his report to say "if I had known then what I know now, the Goldstone report would have been a very different document". (If he had known that saying anything against Israel would have him labelled a self hater anti-semite and a traitor and put under horrendous personal pressure, he would not have taken the job in the first place)

Alas, the smear campaign on Paul has scuppered him, and his son is well in bed with AIPAC now. Such a shame.

[pseudolus]

If only more people listened to the likes of Ron Paul!

He's been neutralised by the Media though; ridiculed and been made into a monster because he was talking the truth.

He's been shut down completely mostly due to not signing the AIPAC pledge showing allegiance to Israel, and Obama publicly sucking Israel off here. Some are too blind to see things this way; chucking out the anti-semitic slur just because Paul say the US should not be fighting Israel's wars for them. Ignorant cocks.



Might be worth noting his comment about the Goldstone report on Gaza where this South African Jewish Judge came out and said Israel were targeting civilians in Gaza and killing them by the bus load (all true of course). Next minit... he is labelled a ""self-hating Jew" and a Jewish antisemite.", publicly ridiculed by the ADL and AIPAC lobby, as well as every US politician supported (financially) by AIPAC, and he goes on to change his report to say "if I had known then what I know now, the Goldstone report would have been a very different document". (If he had known that saying anything against Israel would have him labelled a self hater anti-semite and a traitor and put under horrendous personal pressure, he would not have taken the job in the first place)

Alas, the smear campaign on Paul has scuppered him, and his son is well in bed with AIPAC now. Such a shame.

Don't confuse ant with the truth, for God's sake!

Isn't it amazing how effective the ADL is at ostracising someone by chucking the anti semitic slur at them. Such is the barrage of hatred chucked at Ron Paul, people like Ant conveniently forget that forms of racism / sexism / loony religion is endemic in most if not all politicians. However, notice how the only ones who are stigmatised over this are those who speak out against Israel? Amazing isn't it. He is the one politician who actually has the answer the US's problems and because of this, he is cast aside by brainless people who do not have a clue.