Thread: Ouch- This is Gonna be Embarassing

...while US neo-fascists want to see the returned hostages shot for treason, nuke Iran and implement a convert or die policy for Muslims worldwide.
If you need help translating some Goering or Goebbels quotes into English for your perusal, let me know, Earl.

Originally Posted by stroller

Let's celebrate common sense and diplomacy being re-established!

Weak Troll...

Just stating the obvious.
Still, got 'someone' hot under the collar for reasons unknown.

Btw, is it time Britain joined Europe, or how much longer are they going to cow-toe big brother across the pond - got nothing but spite and ridicule for their loyalty.

Originally Posted by stroller

Btw, is it time Britain joined Europe, or how much longer are they going to cow-toe big brother across the pond - got nothing but spite and ridicule for their loyalty.

The Uk is the regional node of the emipre. The 51st state if you like... Part of the reason I don't live there.

Originally Posted by sabang

Well, I've seen 'Loose Change' 3 times now and I remain undecided. The hypothesis is just so monstrous that it beggars belief

Forget the hypothesis, just look at the facts and then you know anything is possible

Love that story with the British sailors and the PR thing. Desperate.

Originally Posted by stroller

Btw, is it time Britain joined Europe, or how much longer are they going to cow-toe big brother across the pond - got nothing but spite and ridicule for their loyalty.

If you mean "adopt the Euro as the national currency" - never.

Why should we become more deeply enmeshed with a bunch of self-serving bureaucratic money-wasters run by a bunch of krauts and their lap-dog frogs?

As for the incident of the OP, this is truly the nadir of the British armed forces and diplomacy. This group of kids - supposedly part of our navy? - are shown up to be scared children, and now given permission to sell their stories. Appalling. Doesn't anybody sign the official secrets act any more?

Originally Posted by RDN

. This group of kids - supposedly part of our navy? - are shown up to be scared children, and now given permission to sell their stories. Appalling. ]

Agreed. there is already a bidding war going on and those involved are likely to be "inventive" while recounting the events to ensure more dosh, according to the former Brit Commander in Bosnia, whihc will make us look even more stupid becuase then the Iranina will be justly able to accuse of lies and propaganda.


Tehran 3 "faction" 1' Blair 32 (og) sailors 90' (og) Britain O

Go here to view a real warrior's propaganda photo.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by RDN

Why should we become more deeply enmeshed with a bunch of self-serving bureaucratic money-wasters run by a bunch of krauts and their lap-dog frogs?

And yet you Brits wanted in so badly and if it wasn't for the French, you would still be out.

All we wanted and what we were promised by our lying politicians (Ted Heath?) was access to markets - free trade! Not all the crappy political baggage that later came with it.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Why did we let you in the first place ? ...

Didn't take you for a froggy, Butterfly!

And now the pathetic UK government have done a U-turn. Useless bunch of twats.

Defence Secretary Des Browne admitted the outcome of his decision to let the 15 captured sailors cash in on their ordeals had not been 'satisfactory'.

What a wanker. I wonder how long before he says: "I thought they said they wanted to tell their story, not sell their story."

Originally Posted by RDN

All we wanted and what we were promised by our lying politicians (Ted Heath?) was access to markets - free trade! Not all the crappy political baggage that later came with it.

So you brits thought you could pick a single subject out of EU's portfolio and skip all the others.
Bwahahaha, Santa comes every xmas..

Free trade, face it, you don't have anything to sell to us.
Your industry, while it existed, made the most crappy products in Europe.
In that respect, your favorite hate country France is light years ahead of you.

You are, and has always been, a bunch of backwards striving navel watchers. EU doesn't need you - you need EU.

Originally Posted by RDN

What a wanker. I wonder how long before he says: "I thought they said they wanted to tell our story, not sell their story."

You had a typo up there

Photoshop credit to this guy.

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by RDN

All we wanted and what we were promised by our lying politicians (Ted Heath?) was access to markets - free trade! Not all the crappy political baggage that later came with it.

So you brits thought you could pick a single subject out of EU's portfolio and skip all the others.
Bwahahaha, Santa comes every xmas..

<snip - stupid insults deleted>.

So how old are you Lom? Are you so old you've forgotten or so young you didn't know that there was no EU when the UK joined in 1973? There was no "EU portfolio", just a market place.

The UK was lied to by Ted Heath who said it was just a better way of trading with Europe.

The UK joined the Common Market - the "EEC", not a Federal States of Europe. The only reason De Gaulle decided to stop saying "Non" was because he wanted our money to pay for all the crap stuff that the EEC was doing. Pissed him off no end when the great Maggie negotiated our rebate.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ correct me if I am wrong, but you never made it to the EU before Tatcher. Being part of the EC has nothing to do with tough EU politics and adopting all the difficult Euro chapters. Even Turkey is part of EC, though not EU, yet (hopefully never).

So the great Mitterand (or was it his predecessor) let you guys in, and that's when the shit hit the fans for you brits. The only reason DeGaulles refused until he died was because he knew the Brits were trouble makers and were unreliable political partners (US influence). He had 4 years in London to make up his own mind about the British. Is history proving him right ? I hope not. I think the UK has a lot to offer politically and needs to get with the program and stop the silly EU/French/German bashing and start to live with others instead of being an isolated island.

You may well be right, but from our perspective it was just a progression - getting deeper and deeper into this horrible bureaucratic mess called "Europe" and being told what to do by a bunch a foreigners: how long and how straight our bananas must be, how UK chocolate is not real chocolate and all the labels must be changed. All that petty crap didn't endear me to Europe.

And you're right - we feel a greater affinity to the US than to Europe. As for the silly France/German bashing... we have long memories and living on an island has made us isolated from them, thankfully.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Love that story with the British sailors and the PR thing. Desperate.

Yeah - right...
Wonder if any of them know the words to Heart of Oak

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Love that story with the British sailors and the PR thing. Desperate.

Yeah - right...
Wonder if any of them know the words to Heart of Oak

Not a chance!

I loved this bit from the Telegraph:

Of course, I'm not suggesting that being captured and held prisoner for nearly two weeks was a picnic for any of the 15 Navy hostages, and who is not thankful that they are home safe and unharmed? Yet the suspicion remains that this ragbag of sailors would be hard pushed to collect the pedalo fares on a boating pond without making a hash of it.

Faye a heroine? That's an insult to our dead soldiers

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ENT

I'm in Thailand currently doing forensic research, so can post more later, re. anomalous published "evidences",.......must be a joke!

Evidence about what? I'll patiently await a new topic. Make sure you play safe, though, if it's anything controversial regarding Thailand.

Point taken Stroll!!

When asked how her three-year-old daughter Molly had coped with her mother going missing, Turney replied that ''she bounces back like there is no tomorrow''. For the hundreds of soldiers who have died in this conflict, there is no tomorrow. If only Faye Turney had had the dignity to remember this before she sang like a canary to the tabloid press.

She's laughing all the way to the Bank. Welcome to the 21st Century.
Kind of explains why we are losing, too.

^
She's hardly indicitive of the attitudes of all the coalition soldiers.
Pat Tillman comes to mind...