Thread: "support the troops"

Originally Posted by Milkman

I think whether it's B.S. or not depends upon one's opinion.

Proven before? I don't this this topic can be proven nor disproven.

I think of it as a job. They take the job voluntarily. They get paid. Benefits. Etc.

It's a job.

Troll? I don't understand.

Being a soldiers is a job. Any atta-boys and pats on the back for taking this job is as silly as high-fiving a football player, casino dealer, salesman, banker, or broker.

Probably a concept the secular-progressives aboard here cannot understand. There are a few patriotic folks who volunteer through altrustic motives...believe it or not...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

There are a few patriotic folks who volunteer through altrustic motives...believe it or not...

apparently nobody on this board.....all we get here from the war supporters are bumper stickers.

^
This is a very small board in a very big world...

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Glad you gave this thread a bump there ray!

What am I doing?

I'm finding the Oil with which to lubricate the machine of War in defense of the Free World. Truth, Justice & the American Way!

Go ahead and find the oil.
But Truth- the Bush administration? Laughable.
Justice- Gitmo, CIA ghost prisons, The Patriot Act. Laughable.
Free world- America, whilst still a 'freeish' country, is no longer amongst the worlds freest countries. For that matter, how many of your population are in jail?
The machine of War? Iraq, 'Ghan, 'Nuff said.

Is this the new American way?

Opportunity is freedom. We have millions coming every year for opportunity. Does anyone think Norway is #1 on the list of countries to immigrate to?

^ I don't think it is apt to compare Norway and the US. Norway, whilst not a small country, can not support a population or immigration like that of the US- unless we learn how to eat snow.
As for opportunity, sure the US has got it. I could say many other good things about the US too. Your incumbent Presidential administration however, and the neo-conservative fringe group behind it, has been an unmitigated disaster.

MM
why do you hate america?

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM
why do you hate america?

I do not hate America.

Not at all.

But I am very disappointed with the government and foreign policy.

I've been researching and reading a lot about U.S. companies, the military that enforces their interests, and the policies of the U.S. government.

Also, I dislike the jingoism that has been displayed.

I like the U.S.

But I do have criticisms. Just like Boon Mee, and others.

We just focus on different things that we like and dislike.

I'll support the troops when they do what they swore to do when they signed up for the military - support and defend the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM
why do you hate america?

A better question is why you would like the GI's in Iraq to be beheaded?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM
why do you hate america?

A better question is why you would like the GI's in Iraq to be beheaded?

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM
why do you hate america?

A better question is why you would like the GI's in Iraq to be beheaded?

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

I don't have any personal ego-involvement whether or not the troops are there but if one chooses to join the military through whatever motives - career, lack of money, whatever, they should be able to do so without criticism from anyone.

If someone like Pat Tillman chooses to go fight the Islamofascists after seeing the destruction they metted out on 9/11, who has a moral right to pass judgement on his motives?

ray carey seems to become so incensed by these soldiers he advocates their death vs. the enemies of freedom and democracy.

p.s. While our troops are over in Iraq building new schools, the terrorists are busy trying to blow them up.

"American soldiers discovered a girls school being built north of Baghdad had become an explosives-rigged "death trap," the U.S. military said Thursday.

The plot at the Huda Girls' school in Tarmiya was a "sophisticated and premeditated attempt to inflict massive casualties on our most innocent victims," military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said."

Yes all very nice but you never answered my question

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

Originally Posted by Begbie

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

Here you go...if they want to be there and feel as if they are making a contribution (as futile as it seems to be of late) then I support their desire to be in Iraq.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Begbie

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

Here you go...if they want to be there and feel as if they are making a contribution (as futile as it seems to be of late) then I support their desire to be in Iraq.

mmm....kind of skirted that one didn't you. No weapons of mass destruction, no connection with 9/11, just a mad dictator and there's plenty of them around.

So why did you want to GI's to be in Iraq ?

Originally Posted by Begbie

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Begbie

Boon Mee can you tell us why you want the GI's to be in Iraq ?

Here you go...if they want to be there and feel as if they are making a contribution (as futile as it seems to be of late) then I support their desire to be in Iraq.

mmm....kind of skirted that one didn't you. No weapons of mass destruction, no connection with 9/11, just a mad dictator and there's plenty of them around.

So why did you want to GI's to be in Iraq ?

Let's see...more specifically the thought of the locus of terror being Iraq instead of London or New York springs to mind?

[quote=Boon Mee;321853][quote=Begbie;321851]

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Begbie

So why did you want to GI's to be in Iraq ?

Let's see...more specifically the thought of the locus of terror being Iraq instead of London or New York springs to mind?

Do you think that Al-Qaeda was:

1. in Iraq before March 2003?

2. recruiting in Iraq before March, 2003?

3. Do you think Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11?

Don't expect a sensible answer.

Boon Mee's reply to why the US went into Iraq when it wasn't responsible for 9/11 was.... to punish them for 9/11.

Logic and Boonie have never been close acquaintances

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM
why do you hate america?

A better question is why you would like the GI's in Iraq to be beheaded?

among other things, i guess sarcarsm is lost on you.

just 2 years ago, if someone had said what MM had posted, he most certainly would have encountered the question, 'why do you hate america'.

it was a joke. i know MM doesn't 'hate' america.

and as i have posted many times.....if a group of 5 GIs is captured, and their beheading is announced, advertised and ultimately broadcast on the web (say, one every night at 9 PM EST), then the inevitable US withdrawal would be pushed up, and less people would die.

yeah, 5 american kids would die, but thousands of innocent iraqis would live....and i'll take that deal any day.

you see, i don't buy your absurd 1950s form of nationalism......it's not a game, and there really is no 'winning' for the people in iraq. maybe there is for those following the war in the newspaper, and posting about it on a thailand based internet message board.

of the scores of people killed yesterday in iraq (no link needed because scores of people die everyday), how many of them care who's winning the game?

and this brings me to

Originally Posted by Begbie

So why did you want to GI's to be in Iraq ?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the thought of the locus of terror being Iraq instead of London or New York springs to mind?

why should this 'long war' be fought in iraq and not london or NY?
what did the iraqis have to do with AQ?---you know the people responsible for 9/11.

in fact, a better case could be made for this war being fought in israel....

put up a jersey barrier around the entire country (the construction time would provide any rational israelis, palestinans and christians enough time to get the hell out) , and then have a cage match.....whoever is left standing can have it.

Originally Posted by raycarey

why should this 'long war' be fought in iraq and not london or NY?
what did the iraqis have to do with AQ?---you know the people responsible for 9/11.

Doesn't matter, we're there now so enough with the Monday morning quarterbacking. If we leave Iraq in the state it's in right now, expect more bombs to go off in London & NY...fer sure...

And, to turn the question around, why do you (all who hate the GI's in Iraq) have such ego-involvement in this issue? Got any family mambers who were drafted and are forced to serve over there?

Originally Posted by Begbie

Boon Mee's reply to why the US went into Iraq when it wasn't responsible for 9/11 was.... to punish them for 9/11.

Negative.

UN sanctions ignored.
WMD's believed to be at Saddam's disposal.
To overthrow Saddam on general principals.

Oil...

Originally Posted by kerux

They are building a Greater Israel in the ME.

And, why not?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

why should this 'long war' be fought in iraq and not london or NY?
what did the iraqis have to do with AQ?---you know the people responsible for 9/11.

Doesn't matter, we're there now so enough with the Monday morning quarterbacking. If we leave Iraq in the state it's in right now, expect more bombs to go off in London & NY...fer sure...

How come there hasn't been an Iraqi attack on the U.S. so far?

What intelligence do you have that states there will be an attack against London & New York if the U.S. leaves?

Originally Posted by raycarey

what did the iraqis have to do with AQ?---you know the people responsible for 9/11.

That's funny.