Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by ENT

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Another truther bollocks site.

You really are a fucking sheep, you believe any old piece of shit as long as it is contrary to the obvious.

The building was damaged, burnt out of control and collapsed.

No-one blew it up.

No-one pulled it down.

Get over it.

Originally Posted by koman

....never respond to a question except to post little smiley icons and then try to switch to a different subject.

Yes....that's ENT for you.

Hey ENT....I'm still waiting for you to back up your accusation of me being a liar.
That wouldn't be because YOU are a liar and completely full of shit, would it ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

It's the residual Lobelia.

He's already admitted he's a heavy user of alcohol. And regular ganja. We've all seen how incoherent some alcoholic posters here can get.

I dunno which sewer you drag up your info from, but your fantasis about me are getting wilder and weirder by the day, my little schizoid Ocker.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

Posted by you on this very forum, actually.

Liar.

OK....so which of my accusations are you actually denying, ENT ? Specifically. The use of alcohol, ganja, or lobelia ?

Originally Posted by ENT

Hi found this photo of the wall columns of wtc 7 leaning against the verizon building where it landed as wtc 7 fell at freefall speed and leaned
back just hitting the verizon building causing some structural damage to the other building as it fell now look at the cut column with the molten
metal iron slag covering part of the top of the building as it fell, i dont know whether this is demolition cut by as thermite demolition charge because
of the molten metal that was produced when it was cut ot whether it is part of a clean up cut, what kind of torch used for cutting steel would produce
so much heat that it would leave messy iron slag dripping down the top of the column where it was cut if it was done by a clean up crew?
The funny thing i dont understand about all of this is if you look at the column which have been cut by clean up crews at ground zero and even
the columns that where cut up after they where removed is that none of them except for one of them a core columsn at ground zero appear to have
and molten metal slag where they where cut during the clean up process, so what kind of torch would leave such a messy cut? And would they use such a torch to make this kind of cut? I am interested to hear what you all have to say about this piece.



Wtc 7 Leaning Against Verizon Building - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum

Have you ever seen a thermic lance at work ? in some case's the Girders are filled with concrete a Lance will slice through the concrete too ,leave a mass of slag .

Not really that interested ,but am I correct in thinking that it was suggested that the Planes were some sort of Optical Illusion? IF so I wonder why those in high places who say it was some sort of inside job prove it by making another optical illusion to prove there suspicions

Use of a thermal lance, or even a plain old oxy cutter, is beyond ENT's comprehension. He's a gutless, lying, hypocritical scumbag.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

IF so I wonder why those in high places who say it was some sort of inside job prove it by making another optical illusion to prove there suspicions

I believe you have to have access to space.

Pentagon planners started to discuss digital morphing after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Covert operators kicked around the idea of creating a computer-faked videotape of Saddam Hussein crying or showing other such manly weaknesses, or in some sexually compromising situation. The nascent plan was for the tapes to be flooded into Iraq and the Arab world.
The tape war never proceeded, killed, participants say, by bureaucratic fights over jurisdiction, skepticism over the technology, and concerns raised by Arab coalition partners.


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What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad?

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But the "strategic" PSYOPS scheming didn't die. What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad urging the Iraqi people and Army to rise up against Saddam, a senior Air Force officer asked in 1990?

According to a military physicist given the task of looking into the hologram idea, the feasibility had been established of projecting large, three-dimensional objects that appeared to float in the air.

But doing so over the skies of Iraq? To project such a hologram over Baghdad on the order of several hundred feet, they calculated, would take a mirror more than a mile square in space, as well as huge projectors and power sources.

And besides, investigators came back, what does Allah look like?

The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions."

Air Force Launches Top-Secret ‘Holographic Projector’ Research Program

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The gospel according to "Dok" of Prison Planet Forum........

So does Dok think the US government would risk using such incredibly leading edge and unproven technology in front of the population of America's biggest city in order to execute a complex plot to destroy the WTC as an excuse to start a war?

Wouldn't it be a huge embarrassment if this projector failed just before the plane hit the tower...and the watching thousands all went WTF??.....
and all the Spooks are going WTF.. the bulb burned out......

Christ there are some real fucking lunatics out there in internet land......

And gullible lunatics at that.

Was the planes only observed on TV or was there hundreds of witnesses who saw the impact with their own eyes? and I say again if it was some sort of optical illusion why oh why do the multi millionaire"s distractors who say that there was no planes involved ,stage another optical Illusion to prove themselves right ?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Was the planes only observed on TV or was there hundreds of witnesses who saw the impact with their own eyes? and I say again if it was some sort of optical illusion why oh why do the multi millionaire"s distractors who say that there was no planes involved ,stage another optical Illusion to prove themselves right ?

Why go through all the complicated charade of imaginary planes and holograms?

The WTC was bombed before, it would make more sense just to blow them up and blame the bombing on the target of your choice.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why go through all the complicated charade of imaginary planes and holograms?

True

Let us have all the confiscated CCTV made public and this farce can be put to rest

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

9/11 was an inside job

Inside what?...

Originally Posted by Latindancer

But Helge misunderstood my position and was humble enough to say he was wrong (though it was just a misunderstanding).
Perhaps he will in your case, too. I remember that he's a nice guy. Perhaps he's having a difficult time in his personal life.

Without knowing it, LD, you guessed right

I am certainly going through a complicated phase of my life, but it has nothing to do with me pointing out the lack of honesty in Koman's posting.

I'll let it lie, and shall scroll his posts in the future.

No misunderstandings in this case though

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

9/11 was an inside job

Inside what?...

As in "not outdoors"

You follow ?

Originally Posted by helge

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

9/11 was an inside job

Inside what?...

As in "not outdoors"

You follow ?

I don't think commercial aircraft fly indoors.

Just sayin' like.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by helge

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

9/11 was an inside job

Inside what?...

As in "not outdoors"

You follow ?

I don't think commercial aircraft fly indoors.

Just sayin' like.

The tinfoil hat can confuse even the brightest minds...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't think commercial aircraft fly indoors. Just sayin' like.

They did at 9/11. They flew though a steel/concrete building and exited the other side.

Originally Posted by helge

pointing out the lack of honesty in Koman's posting.

WTF are you talking about. What lack of honesty. You accused me of lying, twice, and when I ask you to point out this lie, you don't bother to respond. What kind of sad fuckwit are you to call somebody a liar on an open forum anyway, and not have the balls to explain?

Originally Posted by koman

Now we're back to well rusted cut steel beams ....and you expect somebody to tell you who cut them, when, and how. How the fuck would any of us know that and why would you expect us to? Why don't you contact the NYC fire department.....maybe they can help you.

....NYC fire department.... why they were issuing warnings about the impending collapse of that building for some time before it finally came down.

Who asked you, dopey?

I wouldn't expect a reasonable explanation from you,....that'd be just daft!

Of course you don't know, you haven't, a clue.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Have you ever seen a thermic lance at work ? in some case's the Girders are filled with concrete a Lance will slice through the concrete too ,leave a mass of slag .

Those girders in the pic weren't filled with concrete.

Originally Posted by koman

So does Dok think the US government would risk using such incredibly leading edge and unproven technology in front of the population of America's biggest city in order to execute a complex plot to destroy the WTC as an excuse to start a war?

Actually;

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The Airborne Holographic Projector
The Airborne Holographic Projector [Source: Air University]
According to a 1999 Washington Post website report, the US Air Force starts a research program this year to develop a “holographic projector” as a psychological warfare weapon. Holograms are three-dimensional images created by laser technology. The US military explored the idea of using holograms during the 1991 Gulf War to deceive the Iraqis, but did not pursue it for technical reasons. One idea was to project a hologram of Allah several hundred feet in size over Baghdad, but this would take a mirror in space more than a mile square, plus huge projectors and power sources. Additionally, there are strict Islamic proscriptions on the depiction of Allah. However, the US military did not abandon the concept. “The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that [the Post] has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS [psychological operations] application. The “Holographic Projector” is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to “project information power from space… for special operations deception missions.” [WASHINGTON POST, 2/1/1999; SYDNEY MORNING HERALD, 2/5/2000] A 1996 study commissioned by a US Air Force panel called “Air Force 2025” shows how a future “Airborne Holographic Projector” might look like. In this illustration, a virtual aircraft is created to deceive the enemy as to the size and location of attacking forces. [AIR UNIVERSITY, 1996; AL, 6/1996, PP. 114 pdf file]
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Good Lord! What in heaven's name is that?


We are in Baghdad in 1991, and something strange is happening. A hush falls over the city as a huge shimmering face materialises in the sky. Soldiers and citizens prostrate themselves as each hears the voice of Allah, commanding them to overthrow the evil and treacherous Saddam Hussein. Within minutes an angry mob is storming the palace as the guards flee ...

This highly imaginative scenario was proposed by US Air Force (USAF) planners for a bloodless victory in the Gulf conflict. The idea of putting words in God's mouth is not new. In the second century AD Lucian described a statue of the god Aesculapius that spoke to believers, aided by a hidden priest with a speaking tube.

The Baghdad plan involved projecting a giant hologram over Iraq. This kind of projection requires a mirror behind it. The scale of the project dictated a mirror several kilometres across up in space. So far the largest mirror developed has been 30 metres wide and present versions are too small to produce a convincing image at ground level.

Another approach would be to make a mirror out of thin air. When warm air lies on top of cold air, the difference in density is enough to bend light. At higher altitudes, a mirage can make whole landscapes appear in the sky. An artificial mirage could in theory be made by heating the atmosphere with radio waves or microwaves.

The military certainly appears to believe in the potential use of holograms.

A USAF think-tank has devised uses ranging from deceptive holographic imaging to the Star Trek-sounding distortion field projector.

These are described as useful for strategic deception purposes, particularly against an unsophisticated adversary.

They would be projected by a special aircraft, an airborne hologram projector.

Perhaps the nearest current equivalent is the Commando Solo, a modified Hercules festooned with aerials and antennae and carrying pods of classified electronics. It can transmit across the electromagnetic spectrum, including radio and television signals.

The face of God needs a voice. A new technique using microwaves could produce this. When a high-power microwave pulse strikes the human body, a small temperature disturbance occurs, causing an expansion of tissue that can create an acoustic wave. A report from the USAF scientific advisory board says: "With a pulse stream, an internal acoustic field of 5-15KHz can be created which is audible. Thus it may be possible to 'talk' to adversaries in a way which would be most disturbing to them."

The practical difficulties in microwave transmission are formidable. The exact sound perceived depends on the size and shape of the hearer's skull and orientation to the source. Microwaves can be reflected or dampened by solid objects, so God's voice could have the underwater quality of poor radio reception. And would you believe in a God whose voice drops off when you walk behind a lamp-post?

But there were other problems with the plan. Images of Allah are forbidden in Islam. How can you project an image of God when nobody knows what He is supposed to look like?

And the citizens of Baghdad are not superstitious savages, prone to fleeing at the sound of a disembodied voice from a gramophone. They have been exposed to years of computer-generated imagery and flashy special effects. If God's image did appear in the heavens, someone would be bound to suggest it was all done with mirrors.

The Guardian

Good Lord! What in heaven's name is that? - smh.com.au - World

Great stuff eh?

I am beginning to think you may be some kind of PSYOPS program ENT.....there really is no normal, rational explanation for you.....

True.