Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Hey ENT,

You know you're neighbor, the one that escaped from the secure ward and has confronted you 3 times ?

That's me, Freddy Kruger got fuk all on me when I get going.

Next time you're getting offed ENT.

All the fuk ups on this forum will be forever grateful that Mad Uncle ENT has finally been dispatched to the Ping River wearing concrete running shoes.

Here's a few names of people that should be indicted to give evidence that most people haven't heard of.

Just google them with 9/11 after their name. Well worth a bit of research.

Not in any way saying any of them is guilty. Only saying that they should give evidence to the new upcoming investigation (That's if they haven't already died in mysterious circumstances)

Richard Sheirer
Bernard Kerik
l Paul Bremer
John Lehman
Satam Suquami
John Blitch
Richard Tomasetti
Thomas C Leppert
Sir Frankl Lampl
Jack Masagna
Jim Abadie
Charlie Vitchers
John Galt Construction
Riad Khalil
Neil Goldstein
Richard Marx
Kevin Donavan

Just for reference.

Originally Posted by terry57

Hey ENT,

You know you're neighbor, the one that escaped from the secure ward and has confronted you 3 times ?

That's me, Freddy Kruger got fuk all on me when I get going.

Next time you're getting offed ENT.

All the fuk ups on this forum will be forever grateful that Mad Uncle ENT has finally been dispatched to the Ping River wearing concrete running shoes.

You can't read or think clearly can you?

Go back and read my posts SLOWLY and try again.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by ENT

Actually, I will be in Brisbane on Wednesday.

The last time you offered to meet, you wanted to offer me a fight, after I offered you a beer!

So OK ENT,

You will be in Brisbane on Wednesday and then you will be at the Gecko bar on Thursday to belt ten shades of shit out of me.

OK ENT. I'll see you there.

Why are you trying to tell me what to do weirdo? You must be pretty sick, eh.

You also either have selective cognizance or are in fact a paranoid schizophrenic to come up with that cr*p.

That quote above was directed at LD, but for some strange reason you want to take it on board.

Listen Ocker, just do what the doctor ordered and take yer pills and NO alcohol with them.

Originally Posted by terry57

Hey ENT,

You know you're neighbor, the one that escaped from the secure ward and has confronted you 3 times ?

That's me, Freddy Kruger got fuk all on me when I get going.

Next time you're getting offed ENT.

All the fuk ups on this forum will be forever grateful that Mad Uncle ENT has finally been dispatched to the Ping River wearing concrete running shoes.

We all know you're sick in the head and body, but it doesn't really pay to advertise the fact, Ocker.

What these truthers show is that you do not need to have a religion or god to create a cult. All you need is a dogma that explains the world, that then provides a framework though which you view the world, like a prism separating what reinforces your dogma from what does not. anything that does not fit in with the framework is simply ignored. These truthers are no more interested in the truth regarding WTC than a fundamentalist christian is interested in the facts geology and biology when it comes to his belief creation story from the bible.... his belife in the dogma of the bible is all the evidence he needs. Likewise with the truthers their belief in their dogma is all the proof they need be it the dogma the one world government, the jews, the western conspiracy against islam, the government is plain evil and constantly plotting against the people.

And if more evidnce of the cult like nature of the 911 truthers were needed one only has to look at how theyt reach when one of their chosen becaomes aposate charlie veitch, The 9/11 conspiracy theorist who changed his mind - Telegraph comes to mind.

These dogma's are attafcive to some people as they find the complexity and arbetary nature of life and risk too much to cope with. some turn to religion as say its gods will. some turn to conspiricy theories to say its all part of a great plan.

The risk that these people pose to society, particularly a democratic society, is that this prism though which they view the world, that filters out even the most obvious evidence that their dogma is wrong allows them create nice simple narratives which can be very seductive when presented as a gish gallop, a propaganda technique that has managed to help nearly half americans believe on creationism despite it having even less evidence in its favor than that 911 truthers.

Its a good job that we as a society decided to irradiate smallpox in the 1950's before the internet, because if we look at the post internet scheme to eradicate polio we can see how an rather eclectic alliance of the vaccine truthers and the 'western conspiracy against islam' truthers have successfully worked together to keep that rather nasty virus alive, in the wild, maiming and killing. Then we have the aid's truthers and the south african president who together probably killed more black south africans than the apartate government did in its entire existence.

Then we see how the 'government is out to get you' truthers at work with sandy hook portaying it all as a hoax to bring in gun control ad nausium

The problem is that in a democracy, the people have perodic control over how their country is run. They base these decisions on what the believe to be the truth and on that basis whats the best way forward. when that truth is nonsense then its not very likely that their decisions will lead to successful solutions in the future. Its not that conspiracy theories are a risk to democracy or society. Its the way of thinking that creates them that is the risk. the belief that dogma and wishful thinking are a better basis for decision making than observation and measurement. And the problem that we face now is that without the filter of the media, the internet has given everyone the same voice and humans seem ill prepared to differentiate between those who tell us a truth based on observation and those tho tell us a truth based on dogma and blain faith alone.

For those unfamilier with this take a butchers as this gish gallop, which explains 911 truth in 5 minutes


Here is the rebuttal which takes 15 minutes


and here are the websites that actually flesh out the rebuttal with real evidence
Main Page - 911myths
debunking911.com
conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/911


To be honest I cannot see why you bother with these 911 truthers, you have about as much chance of convincing them they are wrong as you have a Christian of the impossibility of converting water to wine or a flat earther that the world is not flat and the sun is more than 300 miles away. They are simply not interested in the truth., 'trust me I'm right and they are wrong... fuck their physical evidence'
And what is it about internet forums that attracts these loons like flies to shit? Half of TD’s regular posters seem have completely bought into atleast one truther movment/delusion

Now regarding ENT. Whilst I understand the pleasure in winding him up and helping him make a comical ass of himself. I have come to the belief that he is clearly someone who get his meds, got getter and decided toi stop taking them.... and as a result he is slowly and imperceptivly (to himself) going psychotic again.

on that basis, is think kind of interaction with him, a rater distasteful internet equivalent of the Victorian pasttime of going to the asylum to wind up the lunatic chained to the wall? I think the answer is yes... which is why Ive been leving him alone

What a load of horse sh*t hazz!


You've clearly been taking too much fluoride!

As I said ENT, All these problems you have living in your evolutionary universe, I feel sorry bfore you and basically it really isnt fair to make things force for you by feeding your delusions. I cannot really add more than that

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Only saying that they should give evidence to the new upcoming investigation .

Hey Albert, we have a problem here.

The new investigation will be exactly the same as any of the investigations and conclude that the original story is exactly how it happened.

The Truthers like ENT and company will then be up in arms saying the investigation was flawed and manipulated by the corrupt US Government and also to protect Larry and his Insurance money.

On the other hand if a group of people came out and admitted there involvement in a conspiracy and testified in a court of law I would be the first person to say....

I was wrong, there was a Government conspiracy and ENT was correct all along.


That will never happen Albert, I will never have to do that and ENT will go to his grave dreaming about the Great Conspiracy of 2001.

Dream on ENT.

Insurance company ENT, why did they pay all that money when they could of just stalled off by saying, " more evidence needed ". ?

They use that excuse everyday of the week to with hold payment till the 11th hour.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Here's a few names of people that should be indicted to give evidence that most people haven't heard of.

Just google them with 9/11 after their name. Well worth a bit of research.

Not in any way saying any of them is guilty. Only saying that they should give evidence to the new upcoming investigation (That's if they haven't already died in mysterious circumstances)

Richard Sheirer
Bernard Kerik
l Paul Bremer
John Lehman
Satam Suquami
John Blitch
Richard Tomasetti
Thomas C Leppert
Sir Frankl Lampl
Jack Masagna
Jim Abadie
Charlie Vitchers
John Galt Construction
Riad Khalil
Neil Goldstein
Richard Marx
Kevin Donavan

Just for reference.

No they're not worth even the tiniest bit of research unless you can provide even a one line summation of why they might remotely be relevant.

Otherwise it's just a list of names isn't it?

I mean I remember Richard Marx crooning embarrassing ballads back in the day, are you saying he was a government co-conspirator?

Yeah, look at that, pure evil

Originally Posted by hazz

Now regarding ENT. .

I think that any kind of interaction with him, a rater distasteful internet equivalent of the Victorian past time of going to the asylum to wind up the lunatic chained to the wall?

Well, I can see its a tad cruel of me to continually wind ENT up but its fuking great fun innit.

Besides that,

Posters need to be kept in the loop as to just how such a dangerous mentally damaged asylum patient is allowed to post on Teak Door.

Originally Posted by hazz

As I said ENT, All these problems you have living in your evolutionary universe, I feel sorry bfore you and basically it really isnt fair to make things force for you by feeding your delusions. I cannot really add more than that

Then stop repeating yourself, you're sounding more like a chemical industry shill every day.

What really strikes me about your verbal diarrhea is your lack of insight into a situation masquerading as authority.

Go back to your chemical world hazz, and be sure you revise your knowledge of the periodic tables you made such a cock-up over last time you tried to explain the atomic structure of an element.

Originally Posted by terry57

Posters need to be kept in the loop as to just how such a dangerous mentally damaged asylum patient is allowed to post on Teak Door.

So when did they let you out? Is that why you took early retirement from your union job?

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55 ENT. Right on the knocker. Good innit.

You're just jealous as fuk because I'm cashed up and you're living on a Teflers wage eating bugs and shit for sustenance.

Lobellas cheap though EH.

Hey ENT, the Insurance company, what about that then EH.

hazz has given it some thought. You need a lot of air to burn 60 tons of fuel indeed, under ideal conditions. Let's say 50 tons, the planes had been in the air for an hour before impact. That explosions produced lots of black smoke, soot, and afterwards the smoke turned grey rather swiftly. If you wish to calculate something, do it for the kinetic energy of 50 tons of fuel in flimsy aluminium tanks hitting at the speed of 220 m/s. Your gut feeling probably tells you that it's vaporized instantly, keeps moving, and most of it exits the building on the other side. It also tells you that phrasing like 'fuel poured down the elevator shafts' is misleading, that wasn't a liquid, but a cloud of droplets forced down at hurricane speed. Seemingly didn't start substantial fires on the lower floors. The boiling point of kerosene is 150 degrees celsius. Even if there remained some liquid fuel, as hypothesis, for how long could it stay around in temperatures that alledgedly melted steel?

I remember for how long Obama continued to deny the NSA spying on foreign leaders. Just kept a straight face and lied. And we went to such lenghts as to question if he knew about it.

Originally Posted by hazz

Then we have rainfall and his assertion that all the fuel in the aircraft would have burnt up in a few seconds. As he is not one of your usual suspects for dreaming shit up, I guess he must have done a basic sanity check on this idea. rainfall why not tell us how many cubic meters of air would needed to provide the oxygen to burn all that fuel? I will give you a clue.... its rather a lot.

But then, and I truly hope for rainfalls sake he were joking, he gives us a photo of a building on fire, or more a building encased in scaffolding thats on fire.... then he tells us the building has no scaffolding on it, and its complete and encased in zinc titanium alloys. WTF

Is that right hap-hazz-ard?


For your dimly lit benefit, dopey, the building was in fact aluminium clad if Chinese reportage of the fire is reliable, which in this case it is.



"The hotel was designed by Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas, whose other work, the CCTV tower, was listed as one of the wonders of Chinese architecture by U.S.-based Business Week magazine and viewed as the most radical structure in the country.




The above pic posted by rainfall is of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Guangdong China. Feb 2009.

"A hotel adjacent to the new China Central Television (CCTV) headquarters in Beijing caught fire Monday night.

As of 0:45 a.m. Tuesday, the fire has been under control, but blaze could still be seen on upper floors, witnesses said.
Seven people injured in the fire were rushed to the Beijing Chaoyang Hospital. Six of the seven injured are firefighters and the other is a CCTV worker. As of 0:30, three of them have been in coma. But doctors said the seven were not life threatening.

Initial investigation showed that the fire had been caused by illegal launches of firecrackers, said a spokesman with the Beijing Municipal Government.
Firefighters found remnants of firecrackers on the southern roof of the burning building.

The fire razed more than 100,000 square meters. An atrium and a digital computer room in the building were burnt down.
The 159-meter building, the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, is 200 meters away from the iconic CCTV main tower and part of the complex."

The hotel was used during the Olympics, but the hotel won't officially open until mid-2009. Witnesses said some lights had been on in the hotel.

A young man who declined to be identified said the fire had apparently started at about 8:25 p.m. Monday, when firecrackers landed on the top of the building. Police couldn't immediately confirm that account.

The man, who claimed he had worked with the construction company that built the hotel, said he saw someone on watch on the CCTV main tower with a hose when firecrackers were set off. "But I didn't see any on top of the hotel," he added.




Repairs, not demolition
One year later, the charred 159-meter (520-foot) high, 34-storey building, an eyesore among the capital's landmarks, stands largely untouched except for safety panels mounted in the middle section and scaffolding at the lower part of the structure.
Under repair, under fire - China News - SINA English

The 241-room luxury facility, in the heart of the capital's Central Business District, was intended to be Mandarin Oriental's flagship property in China.

The first and second floors were used to make programs during the Beijing Olympic Games.
Chen said that they were expected to move in after October. Before the fire broke out, the interior was being decorated.

Above pic is of the same building, according to;
Firecrackers blamed for hotel fire near Beijing's new CCTV headquarters, 7 injured- China - Guangdong


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The same building after the fire and during firefighting.

Originally Posted by terry57

Hey ENT, the Insurance company, what about that then EH.

Albert already answered that question for you dipshit, or didn't you bother to read his reply?

As I gather your reading skills are largely limited to reading the pictures.

That's amply demonstrated by the fact that you didn't understand the difference between a flagellation and a conflagration, which you had to know in order to pass your firefighter's written examination on application to be one.

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Hey ENT,

Suppose you will tell us that Larry owned that building and collected the Insurance money EH.


Oh that reminds me ENT,

Why do ya reckon the Insurance company paid Larry all that money if the conspiracy theory is so crystal clear ?

Just asking like ENT.

Originally Posted by ENT

Albert already answered that question for you dipshit, or didn't you bother to read his reply?

Albert's reply was bolliks so I'm asking you ENT. You have a crack EH.

Originally Posted by terry57

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55 ENT. Right on the knocker. Good innit.

You're just jealous as fuk because I'm cashed up and you're living on a Teflers wage eating bugs and shit for sustenance.

Lobellas cheap though EH.

Perfed at 55, sick as a dog in mind and body, get a partial pension and think you're all cashed up,...wanker.

I'm pensioned too, but far older than you, and choose to continue with work (self employed) and study.

You can't. Your fwkd.

Also, I'm not a tefler

Originally Posted by ENT

I'm pensioned too, but far older than you, and choose to continue with work (self employed) and study.

Also, I'm not a tefler

Look ENT,

I realize you get around on a mobility scooter and have a real hard time keeping you're colostomy bag from getting tangled up in the wheels but that don't excuse you from bollocking on about the friggin conspiracy theory.

Being 95 don't excuse you either, old people need to keep there shit together as well ENT.

I mean fuk me ENT, why don't you go down the local orphanage and help out the kiddies ?

You could donate 5 baht from you're teflers wage, its not that much ENT.