Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

9/11 arguments must be a team sport judging by the slapping of each others backs going on in this thread...by both sides I might add. LOL.

"The guys that agree wit me are smart and the ones that agree wit you r stoopid!"

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

^You must have to brush your teeth very regularly.

ENT only posts like this sometimes. It's one of his ways of trying to wind up people. But it comes across as very strange....one sometimes wonders if he's even male.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

knock over some short lamposts, then with no wings (surely they would of smashed to fuck on the poles no )

No.

You have just displayed your complete lack of understanding of simple physics and aircraft construction.


All you have so far said is to repeat that to you, it seems "obvious".

Not to mention poles that are designed to break away when hit to protect vehicle occupants from a potential bifurcation effect or just a sudden deadly stop.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

It get's tiring resoning

If you actually tried this, this thread might have ended 211 pages ago.

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Your name here

I still haven't seen any credible explanation for why all 19 hijackers names were ommitted from the passenger manifests reportered by the media the day of the attack. Or why the FBI/CIA were able to identify them all within 24 hours when there were no survivors,

Where are you getting this from? Of course they were on the passenger lists...and there was CCTV coverage of at least some of them going through the gate to board the plane.

Originally Posted by Your name here

I guess they could go through the manifests and scan for known or suspected terrorists. But, if they were on that list, why weren't they on a no-fly list especially considering the government were on alert for terrorist attacks?

None of them were suspected anything. There were all in the US legally...mostly on student visas I believe. They all knew each other and had studied and become radicalized in Hamburg. (lots of landlords, teachers and others knew them in Germany), and their backgrounds were all well researched and established after 9/11

Originally Posted by Your name here

I also find it highly unlikely that three buildings were preloaded with explosives without anyone noticing it but I find it equally strange that the first three steel frame skyscrapers to ever collapse from a fire, all happened on the same day and one building didn't even have accelerants to feed the fire.

The particular design and construction of the towers was the proximate cause of the so called controlled demolition...or the appearance of such. If you fly a big airplane into a structure and destroy 6-8 floors in the right area, (all on the same day) the resulting heat from the burning fuel in a confined area will be very intense and will weaken (but not melt) the steel support beams enough to cause a collapse of that section. Then the weight of the whole undamaged upper section comes down causing a progressive collapse of the lower section....a so called "pancake" effect. No need to wire explosives....but there were lots of "explosions" from expanding gasses, exploding glass sections and a kind of jet engine effect in the elevator shafts.

I did not even have to google any of the above. It's been researched and authenticated beyond any reasonable doubt, but you will never hear any of this on the conspiracy sites....its all to rational and inconvenient.

Originally Posted by Your name here

WTC 7 photos showed damage to one corner and had a few fires burning inside yet when it collapsed, it fell straight down, starting in the middle and falling just like all the videos of controlled demolition. Even demolition experts have said it looked like controlled demolition.

Again the problem is that of misinformation and statements that were made by some sources before the actual cause was established.
I've posted this about 100 times.... the fires on the upper floors where NOT the cause of collapse. The mass of debris falling form the towers caused severe structural damage to the lower levels as well as starting secondary fires. It was a combination of fire damage on the upper floors and the structural and fire damage a the bottom that eventually weakened the structure to the point of collapse. The design and the nature of the structure itself cause the appearance of controlled demolition.

All of these things have been examined, recorded, and beaten to death for 13 years. If people simply want to just not believe something, then no amount of reason, evidence or "proof" will ever change things....as can been readily observed in any 9/11 discussion.

Good for you Koman being so patient with another numskull, I couldn't be arsed since it's all just more review and without any chance to getting through.

And if the plane did hit the poles, what do you think the effects were on

a) the wings themselves
b) the trajectary and controllability after this point

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

And if the plane did hit the poles, what do you think the effects were on

You mean the Photoshopped plane without the nose? Are the poles, er columns, photoshopped too? Just asking.

Originally Posted by beazalbob69

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Pretty sure this applies to continually posting the same repetitive, obsessive nonsense too.

Here you go, Albert : educate yourself.

You have previously admitted that you do not view links posted by "us"...the opposition.

I suggest that you view THIS one. The Pentagon Attack: What the Physical Evidence Shows

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

And if the plane did hit the poles, what do you think the effects were on a) the wings themselves b) the trajectary and controllability after this point

Not one of you can answer this?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

^Just answer the question you faggot.

Ewww! Getting snarky.... I predict an implosion shortly..

^Can you supply me with a dxf file of the structural plan?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Oh...you were expecting the engine to look NEW.

Read the links provided or piss off, ENT. Troll.

Ooooh, it's a lot bigger engine than your one, ain't it didums?

Are you for fvcking real? Sorry, rhetorical question, sadly you've proven time and again that you are. An engine that was subjected to the crushing force of 500MPH against a solid concrete reinforced wall and YOU expect it to to come out like it was just washed and polished and exactly the same size as a fancy new one? FFS that just takes a complete loss of all reality to even think about arguing such nonsensical perception.

Welcome to ENT's world, Florida. You'll be lucky to escape with your sanity.

Yo bitches, don't be dissing the tin foil gang, they be popping a cap in yo ass!

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Welcome to ENT's world, Florida. You'll be lucky to escape with your sanity.

No, I'm leaving long before I lose that..

SAIC and the WTC After 9/11

It turns out that SAIC was one of the first organizations to show up at Ground Zero. The company claimed in its 2004 shareholder report that — “Following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, we responded rapidly to assist a number of customers near ground zero in New York City and in Washington, D.C.”[20] In one of these instances, “SAIC technicians raced to Ground Zero within hours to install an ad hoc communications network for first responders and local financial companies.”[21] Therefore, SAIC was in control of at least some of the communications at Ground Zero.

Perhaps the most interesting SAIC connection to the cleanup was John Blitch, a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army’s Special Forces, who was said to have retired from the Army just the day before 9/11. It was reported that Blitch was “filling out the paperwork in an out-processing office of the Pentagon on the morning of September 10, 2001,” and that after “three years at the helm of the Defense Department’s Tactical Mobile Robots Program,” he was “leaving to direct the Center for Intelligent Robotics and Unmanned Systems at the Science Applications International Corporation.”[22]

Instead of traveling to his SAIC office in Colorado on 9/11, as he had planned, “Blitch scrapped the trip…and headed for New York. On the road, Blitch donned his fatigues, dug out his military ID, and worked his cell phone, summoning colleagues from Florida to Boston to pack up their finest tactical robots and rendezvous at Ground Zero.” And “Over the next 11 days, the group’s 17 robots squeezed into spaces too narrow for humans, dug through heaps of scalding rubble, and found seven bodies trapped beneath the mountains of twisted steel and shattered concrete.”[23]

Blitch was experienced at such search missions, and had done “ground-breaking research in robot assisted search and rescue conducted during the Oklahoma City Bombing response”.[24] By May 2001, laser technology was being used by Blitch’s robot program. It was reported that — “Robots are performing quite successfully in the field of explosive ordnance disposal (EOD)”… and “EOD units [include] a laser weapon for ordnance neutralization…[used to] burn unexploded ordnance.”[25]

Therefore, SAIC had the means and opportunity to neutralize any unwanted explosives that might have been buried in the pile at Ground Zero. That’s interesting in that SAIC supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the NIST WTC investigation after 9/11. That investigation went to great lengths in order to avoid consideration of explosives.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^Can you supply me with a dxf file of the structural plan?

Is a lamp post to difficult for you to comprehend?

You've never studied logic, have you Albert.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by Humbert

^Can you supply me with a dxf file of the structural plan?

Is a lamp post to difficult for you to comprehend?

You said "pole" not lamp post. Okay then, send me a site plan showing the locations of all the "lamp posts". DXF or DWG will work. Really, I'm trying to help you out.

"The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories"

"People hate randomness, they dread the sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a mechanism against that dread, it turns out that it’s much easier to believe in a conspiracy"

"Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness"

"... while believing George W. Bush helped plan the Sept. 11 attacks might make you feel in control, it doesn’t actually make you so"

Wow ! Ant smuggled a message out !

Thanks for your input...we'll mail you a cake with a file in it

Thank fuck this pile of shit is finally in the DH where it belongs.

No you c u n t s, put it back!