Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

First off, do a quick google and you'll see that there have been plenty of flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder failures over the years.

Bollix.

Just tried Googling for results,....nope, not easy to find any failed CVRs or FDRs listed.

In fact,.....u iz handin out buffalo chips.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

You are certifiable dude.

Congrats, Tony. In the form of ENT, you have just interacted with your first mentally ill person on the internet. I'm serious here. ENT will lead you around in small circles, then large circles.

Did ya look at the video from the Pentagon that the FBI released?

Did ya see hanging in the air, the three small clumps of smoke/debris from the small white smoke explosion on the lawn, the one before the main explosion at the Pentagon facade?

So who're ya gonna believe?


According to the federal authorities controlling Ground Zero, the black boxes from the two crashed 767s, Flight 11 and Flight 175, failed to turn up in the rubble taken from the site. The 9/11 Commission Report backs the FBI's story, flatly stating: "The CVRs and FDRs from American 11 and United 175 were not found."

There are accounts contradicting the official account of the black boxes.

Two men who worked in the cleanup operation at Ground Zero claim that they helped authorities find three of the four black boxes in October of 2001. One of the workers, New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMasi, has self-published a book with other Ground Zero workers in which he describes the recovery of the devices. The book, Behind the Scenes: GROUND ZERO, A Collection of Personal Accounts, can be ordered through SummerOfTruth.org.

In December 2005, CounterPunch reported that an NTSB source contradicted the official account:

"Off the record, we had the boxes," the source says. "You'd have to get the official word from the FBI as to where they are, but we worked on them here."


Survivability Requirements

Events that would damage the recorders sufficiently to make them unreadable are extremely rare.

NTSB spokesperson Ted Lopatkiewicz said that he couldn't recall a domestic case before 9/11/01 in which the recorders were not recovered. The recorders are designed to survive the kinds of impacts that happened at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The FAA has placed durability requirements on the recorders and their casings to survive severe impact and fire

The storage medium of each recorder is located in a protective capsule, which must be able to withstand an impact of 3,400 Gs (3,400 times the force of gravity).

Additionally, each must also survive flames at 2,000 F for up to 30 minutes, and

submersion in 20,000 feet of saltwater for 30 days.

Typically, to increase their chances of survival, the recorders are located in the tail section of the aircraft, which usually sustains the least impact in a crash.
9-11 Research: Black Boxes

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

You are certifiable dude.

Congrats, Tony. In the form of ENT, you have just interacted with your first mentally ill person on the internet. I'm serious here. ENT will lead you around in small circles, then large circles.

There's only one person who needs meds more than ENT, and that's David44.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

You are certifiable dude.

Congrats, Tony. In the form of ENT, you have just interacted with your first mentally ill person on the internet. I'm serious here. ENT will lead you around in small circles, then large circles.

True.

When you're in the form of ENT, you end up interacting with the schizoid fishwife LD, the first seriously woopdedoo coocoo on TD.

Let that be a warning to you.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by Butterfly

that's rich coming from you after you got ass raped by everyone in the "valve" thread

Nobody got ass raped in that thread.

You did.

First you claimed to,"....valve the windows up or down...", as your, "....car has electric windows...."

.......then posted lies and a fake photo about a Chinese girl you and your "friend" had problems with.....


Did you use 12th grade physics and "Popular Mechanics to sort that lot out?

oh yeah, he is also a proven liar and living in a delusional world

I forgot about the Chinese girl, he is either a troll or just a complete delusional schizo or both

Originally Posted by Latindancer

To drive nuts idiots like you ?

what about "to manipulate idiots like you" ?

Originally Posted by ENT

So who're ya gonna believe?

well, certainly not some nut valved out of his head on home grown drugs

The reality of 9/11 is so obvious - it deserves no further discussion. I've reconciled myself to that and have agreed with others there's little more to say. Pity the mental midgets (Mo, Curly and Larry) can't focus.

Originally Posted by ENT

So?

No black boxes gave any information about AA Flt 77 that day. It wasn't flying.

You're full of shit and you don't have a single shred of evidence to prove your silly conspiracy theory.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

So?

No black boxes gave any information about AA Flt 77 that day. It wasn't flying.

You're full of shit and you don't have a single shred of evidence to prove your silly conspiracy theory.

Of course he does. Don't you know there are thousands of these retards out there with their own websites full of shit?

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

So?

No black boxes gave any information about AA Flt 77 that day. It wasn't flying.

You're full of shit and you don't have a single shred of evidence to prove your silly conspiracy theory.

Go cry to mama peckerwood, you know diddly squat.

If you know of any black box info from AA Flt 77 let us know, tell the world and you can be a hero.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

So?

No black boxes gave any information about AA Flt 77 that day. It wasn't flying.

You're full of shit and you don't have a single shred of evidence to prove your silly conspiracy theory.

Of course he does. Don't you know there are thousands of these retards out there with their own websites full of shit?

The biggest retard on this thread has to be you harry, your in denial of what happened on 9/11, you even deny the seismic evidence showing NO AIRLINER CRASH happened at the Pentagon on 9/11?2001.

Ya reckon ya work for some big shot oil company eh?
They rely on geologists to get the oil to pay your wages, don't they, ya wee bean-counter?

You're even in denial of the fact that geologists were the ones who said NO AIRLINER CRASH at the Pentagon 9/11/2001.

Man, you're an utter fool!

Originally Posted by ENT

You're even in denial of the fact that geologists were the ones who said NO AIRLINER CRASH at the Pentagon 9/11/2001.

^ Please provide a link to a geologist who said that.

If there's no seismic record of the explosion at the Pentagon on 9-11 does that mean it never happened?

I guess you get all your disinformation from conspiracy sites and never bother checking for accuracy or engage in any critical thinking of your own.

Seismic Observations during September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attack
http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publicati...11pentagon.pdf

Just because there's no clear seismic signal doesn't mean nothing happened. I have to wonder if you even know how a seismograph works? Are you aware that the WTC buildings were anchored in solid bedrock while the Pentagon is built on the alluvial plain of the Potomac River? Do you know how seismic waves propagate?

I find your ignorance and naivete most amusing

No evidence of an American Airlines Boeing 757 at the Pentagon? Gawd you are full of fail!

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

So?

No black boxes gave any information about AA Flt 77 that day. It wasn't flying.

You're full of shit and you don't have a single shred of evidence to prove your silly conspiracy theory.

Of course he does. Don't you know there are thousands of these retards out there with their own websites full of shit?

The biggest retard on this thread has to be you harry, your in denial of what happened on 9/11, you even deny the seismic evidence showing NO AIRLINER CRASH happened at the Pentagon on 9/11?2001.

Ya reckon ya work for some big shot oil company eh?
They rely on geologists to get the oil to pay your wages, don't they, ya wee bean-counter?

You're even in denial of the fact that geologists were the ones who said NO AIRLINER CRASH at the Pentagon 9/11/2001.

Man, you're an utter fool!

Sorry, all I can hear is

"squeal, squeal, squeal".

That's because you're in denial, chappy.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

You're even in denial of the fact that geologists were the ones who said NO AIRLINER CRASH at the Pentagon 9/11/2001.

^ Please provide a link to a geologist who said that.

If there's no seismic record of the explosion at the Pentagon on 9-11 does that mean it never happened?

I guess you get all your disinformation from conspiracy sites and never bother checking for accuracy or engage in any critical thinking of your own.

Seismic Observations during September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attack
http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publicati...11pentagon.pdf

Just because there's no clear seismic signal doesn't mean nothing happened. I have to wonder if you even know how a seismograph works? Are you aware that the WTC buildings were anchored in solid bedrock while the Pentagon is built on the alluvial plain of the Potomac River? Do you know how seismic waves propagate?

I find your ignorance and naivete most amusing

No evidence of an American Airlines Boeing 757 at the Pentagon? Gawd you are full of fail!

" Please provide a link to a geologist who said that." you ask.

I already did, the seismologist who issued the report you refer to, and psst!!! I'll let ya into a secret, he was a geologist working at an observatory that the Pentagon asked to check on the times of the explosions, that the Pentagon got wrong!

In your mind, if there's no evidence of a seismic event there must have been one, but nobody noticed?

Don't you know that seismic waves of various types travel through various media in differing ways?

The ones that travelled through the Potomac Plain only travelled a few miles to Palisades, and signals were picked up, but none commensurate to an airliner crashing into the ground nor into the Pentagon building.

Signals were picked up that indicated the probability of electrical activity at the Pentagon immediately prior to and during the several explosions that did occur there at the time.

"seismic records at the three nearest stations around the Pentagon with distance ranges from 63 to 208 km. Three minutes of vertical-component seismic records from 09:36:30 (EDT) to 09:39:30 (EDT) are plotted.

There appears to be strong seismic signals around 09:38:52at station MVL (Millersville, Pa;
= 139 km), but the signals are too high frequency (5-10 Hz) and too high amplitude (328 nm/s at 139 km). Hence, it appears be noise perhaps due to electrical disturbances. Otherwise, there are no clear and consistent seismic wave arrivals in this time window.
...the consistency of seismic phases across a seismograph network is the key to discern if there are any seismic signals generated during the plane impact into the Pentagon.

These waveform data indicate that we could not identify seismic signals associated with the plane
impact into the Pentagon on September 11.
http://www.mgs.md.gov/esic/publicati...11pentagon.pdf

^ Do you really not realize that you are confirming your idiocy?

Just because an event doesn't turn up on a seismograph does not mean it did not happen.

Once again, you can't find a single example of a geologist who claims there was NOT and airline crash at the Pentagon on 9-11. All they've said is they didn't record a seismic event at the time of the crash. Then conspiracy nuts like you make a ridiculous claim that since there's no seismic record that it couldn't have happened.

Clearly something hit the Pentagon, right? And whatever that was it contained hundreds of pieces of a Boeing 757 in American Airlines livery. But you say it wasn't AA77. Since you have all the answers (even if you don't have any facts) why don't you tell us what mysterious force or object could blow a hole through the Pentagon, leave hundreds of Boeing 757 parts in its wake, and not leave a seismic signal?

C'mon genius, this should be good!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sorry, all I can hear is

"squeal, squeal, squeal".

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Do you really not realize that you are confirming your idiocy?

Just because an event doesn't turn up on a seismograph does not mean it did not happen.

Once again, you can't find a single example of a geologist who claims there was NOT and airline crash at the Pentagon on 9-11. All they've said is they didn't record a seismic event at the time of the crash. Then conspiracy nuts like you make a ridiculous claim that since there's no seismic record that it couldn't have happened.

Clearly something hit the Pentagon, right? And whatever that was it contained hundreds of pieces of a Boeing 757 in American Airlines livery. But you say it wasn't AA77. Since you have all the answers (even if you don't have any facts) why don't you tell us what mysterious force or object could blow a hole through the Pentagon, leave hundreds of Boeing 757 parts in its wake, and not leave a seismic signal?

C'mon genius, this should be good!

Go on, I'll bite...a Boeing 757?

Originally Posted by benbaaa

You only have to see the look on Bush's face as he's told the news to know that at least he wasn't in on the conspiracy. If ever a face said WTF more eloquently, I'd like to see it.

Haha...doesn't he have the same expression regardless of what's going on! Dumber than a sack of hammers...

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Do you really not realize that you are confirming your idiocy?

Just because an event doesn't turn up on a seismograph does not mean it did not happen.

Once again, you can't find a single example of a geologist who claims there was NOT and airline crash at the Pentagon on 9-11. All they've said is they didn't record a seismic event at the time of the crash. Then conspiracy nuts like you make a ridiculous claim that since there's no seismic record that it couldn't have happened.

Clearly something hit the Pentagon, right? And whatever that was it contained hundreds of pieces of a Boeing 757 in American Airlines livery. But you say it wasn't AA77. Since you have all the answers (even if you don't have any facts) why don't you tell us what mysterious force or object could blow a hole through the Pentagon, leave hundreds of Boeing 757 parts in its wake, and not leave a seismic signal?

C'mon genius, this should be good!

Hey smart a*se, why don't you try and prove there was an airliner crash at the Pentagon.

Other than a few stooges who got their facts wrong, NOBODY sawan airliner fly into the Pentagon.

They didn't actually see a damn plane fly into the building, just some crummy before and after calls, like "I saw/heard something that sounded?looked like a plane/airliner/jet/missile with wings..." or some such statement followqed by "then there was a boom/explosion/loud noise. smoke..." etc.

Nothing substantial, just suppositions that a plane flew into the Pentagon.

But oh, hang on a minute, AA Flt 77 didn't fly that day....

I give you your own reference to a geologist (obvious you haven't a clue about the subject) who was the seismologist who wrote the report you refer to, and woopdedoo, nope, he ain't a real geologist, sez you, peckerwood.


This bit you write makes me laugh;
"Clearly something hit the Pentagon, right? And whatever that was it contained hundreds of pieces of a Boeing 757 in American Airlines livery. But you say it wasn't AA77. Since you have all the answers (even if you don't have any facts) why don't you tell us what mysterious force or object could blow a hole through the Pentagon, leave hundreds of Boeing 757 parts in its wake, and not leave a seismic signal?"

Where did you get the idea that " hundreds of Boeing 757 parts" were found at the Pentagon?

You, of all people have the magical ability to ID all those parts, trace them back to a Boeing 757, AA Flt 77, and NO ONE ELSE CAN!

WOW!

Sorry chappy, your imagination is running riot on ya, hooking disconnected pieces of information together to try and prove that a bloody great big Boeing 757 smacked into the Pentagon leaving minimal damage and insufficient plane debris to fill a garbage truck!

No proof, no plane.

You don't get a medal.

Massive hyperbole. We posted first-hand accounts of people, some of whom actually saw it hit.

It's amusing to see you blithely discredit them by calling them stooges.