Thread: Mature Avocado trees

1980s, now they are 98 cents apiece. I have seen the large ones in the store for $5 each.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

1980s, now they are 98 cents apiece. I have seen the large ones in the store for $5 each.

Where?

Bangkok - like at Villa Market?

No, talking US prices in the state where a lot of avocados are grown.

Originally Posted by rubberdiesel

Namdocmal,
Where did you get the Reed? That is the one i m looking for although the avocados have to stay on the tree for like 16 months if i remember well.

i brought 3 avocado trees from states a year ago. it seem grow so slow. i have 4 more that growing from seeds. some hass and some bacon avocado. still in the 5 gallon bucket and i will plant them next year. matt.

They can grow pretty fast and fruit after 2-3 years if you got grafted tree's.

You should check the website i mentioned, all info is there about avocado-tree's. At least yours survived so far but to let them grow faster they need good soil (add mulch) and fertilizers.

I read that in Myanmar they cost something like 8 baht a piece, so why Villa market asks 80 baht a piece? Or the ones from the Royal project that cost like 150 baht for a kg in Gourmet market Siam paragon.

need to be grown in well drained soil that does not get waterlogged
Hillsides are ideal

Originally Posted by nedkellylives

need to be grown in well drained soil that does not get waterlogged
Hillsides are ideal

Yes hillsides are great but who lives in the hills can grow Hass avocado and many other variety's from Mexico or Guatamala.

Also they can grow in large containers and make fruit.

In the tropical lowlands it is possible to grow West Indian variety's. They are a little less fat and less nutty taste but still very nice to eat. They also get much bigger untill more then 3kg a piece. I read some WI-variety's like Monroe or Catalina can also taste great but i have never seen one in real.

Look in the Tops supermarket or local markets. If you see huge cannonball-like avocado's then they are Booth#7 West Indian variety that can grow in lowlands in the tropics. Thai call them Hek but they always have their own names because international names are to hard for them.

Hass is a nice avocado but there are loads of nice variety's, hundreds. Hass is grown the most because they do well in orchards. Now the whole world thinks Hass is the only avocado but that is sure not the case. Californians sell the Hass and keep the Reed for themselves is what i read.

Originally Posted by Namdocmai

Originally Posted by nedkellylives

need to be grown in well drained soil that does not get waterlogged
Hillsides are ideal

Yes hillsides are great but who lives in the hills can grow Hass avocado and many other variety's from Mexico or Guatamala.

Also they can grow in large containers and make fruit.

In the tropical lowlands it is possible to grow West Indian variety's. They are a little less fat and less nutty taste but still very nice to eat. They also get much bigger untill more then 3kg a piece. I read some WI-variety's like Monroe or Catalina can also taste great but i have never seen one in real.

Look in the Tops supermarket or local markets. If you see huge cannonball-like avocado's then they are Booth#7 West Indian variety that can grow in lowlands in the tropics. Thai call them Hek but they always have their own names because international names are to hard for them.

Hass is a nice avocado but there are loads of nice variety's, hundreds. Hass is grown the most because they do well in orchards. Now the whole world thinks Hass is the only avocado but that is sure not the case. Californians sell the Hass and keep the Reed for themselves is what i read.

I am talking about hills not mountains, there is plenty of hilly ground in a lot of provinces in Thailand

My upper lot next to the house is sloped well and I am thinking about planting some avacado trees to see how they do. The water runs pretty quickly to the lower lot and does not retain the water.

Now I just need to figure out where I can get some young trees in the Udon area.

In Pakchong they sell grafted avocado tree's.

Can you be a little more specific about the location?

In Guang Dong, 20 km after pakchong towards saraburi on the #2 highway at muak lek, nursery's on both sides of the road.

Some other kind member here gave me this tip. If you go there then please post here your experience, i still have to go there myself.

Pak Chong seems to be the nearest place to get.

There is a big Avocado Extension Service at the Pak Chong University..That is where most of the grafted avocado trees in Thailand originate...There are now a couple of Pak Chong nurseries that are also grafting root stock

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Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Namdocmai

In Guang Dong, 20 km after pakchong towards saraburi on the #2 highway at muak lek, nursery's on both sides of the road.

Some other kind member here gave me this tip. If you go there then please post here your experience, i still have to go there myself.

Thanks for that. I will take my truck down and see what is there. What would be the best time of year to look, or does that matter?

I guess anytime is good except around the Thai national holidays?

But you have to decide which type of avocado you can grow in your climate. Hass needs cool temperatures (in the mountains or North Thailand) because it is a guatamala or mexican avocado. The West Indian cado's can grow/fruit in hot and humid tropics like BKK or more south.

I read good reviews for Catalina WI avocado and i also read that the research centre might have them. Also i heard that the research centre mislabelled their cado-tree's so if you buy Hass there it might be another cado. TIT.

I am in Udon which may not be considered a cool mountain climate. I remember seeing avacado groves around Fallbrook, California and it was fairly warm and dry, but I am pretty sure they were growing Hass avacados.

Maybe I will try both brands and see what grows the best. My preference is Hass, but I like all variants.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I am in Udon which may not be considered a cool mountain climate. I remember seeing avacado groves around Fallbrook, California and it was fairly warm and dry, but I am pretty sure they were growing Hass avacados.

Maybe I will try both brands and see what grows the best. My preference is Hass, but I like all variants.

Yes then you can try both. Hass tastes well but i read that californian farmers sell the hass and keep the reed for themselves. They are better.

If i had space i would grow many different ones and keep them small. Grafted tree's don't grow so tall though and fruit much earlyier. I have only 1 now and don't even know which one it is. I will graft other variety's on it when i have read your experience about pakchong area and bought some there myself. I live in bkk.

I have been at muak lek but those nursery's don't have grafted avocado-tree's. I tried more then 10 of them. Waste of time!

I've read in a book on Avocados that they have male and female plants as well as hybrids that are both sexes... if you don't have a hybrid or a male and female plant then they will not be able to cross pollinate and bear fruit. I've also been told by a Thai organic farmer in Chonburi that grafted fruit trees bear fruit much fast than when grown from the seed, but he doesn't have any avocados.

I'm starting a 4 rai organic farm here in Korat and will have primarily Avocados, Coconut, Papaya, Limes and Lemons if I can find Lemon trees or get them going from seeds, which is obviously not preferable.

Lemons do well here in Thailand and I have several neighbors with fruit bearing trees. I have three lemon trees on my land, but they are young and probably will not bear fruit for another year or more. My sister-in-law has been supplying me with lemons, but I find that they do not receive enough water to make them juicy. I still manage to squeeze them for lemonade and to cover my salmon.

Please let me know how you make out growing your other crops. It is always good to ask around and see what the neighbors are growing and they may give you some cuttings, or even a tree. Good Luck

On Wednesday on Chatuchak plant market you can buy grafted avocado tree's.

They sell hass or the big ones.

The seller is at the ringroad in the market near the subway station. There are many fruit-tree sellers there. He has posters with pictures on the tree's.

I have several allready, if you are lucky you will find another seller in the area of the roof. Around that roofed area is sometimes a guy with a very small shop who sells rare fruittree's. he also has grafted avocado's sometimes. I bought a Peterson from him.

send me a message, i have some for you and i live near Korat,, can't send PM as i don't have 20 post yet,,,but will work on that

Originally Posted by nedkellylives

need to be grown in well drained soil that does not get waterlogged
Hillsides are ideal

Very true , they cannot stand waterlogged soil, they drown.
If you get monsoon floods on your rice plains, do not plant avocado trees, unless you have flood defences for the roots.

Originally Posted by cdjustice

send me a message, i have some for you and i live near Korat,, can't send PM as i don't have 20 post yet,,,but will work on that

Have you gotten 20 posts yet? I would really like to get my hands on some good avacado cuttings. I have decided to try and grow them on a larger scale than originally discussed, so any help would be much appreciated.

up to 11 post,, working on it,, will have it done today,,, can i post a email here,,,

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