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    Matt i would plant that tree in full soil before the roots go circling around in the bucket.

    You can transport scions in a plastic bag with a damp towell and keep it cool.

    Hass is not a western-Indian avocado so it needs a cooler temp then let's say in Phuket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    Matt i would plant that tree in full soil before the roots go circling around in the bucket.

    You can transport scions in a plastic bag with a damp towell and keep it cool.

    Hass is not a western-Indian avocado so it needs a cooler temp then let's say in Phuket.
    Don't know about that, but Hass grow in tropical and sub tropical Queensland !

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    How high do these things grow ???
    they will get so big that you can't see the moon no more,


    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    To me, the BIG question is to how do you transport the GRAFT to you tree>?
    in your hand?

    a graft is not necessarily BIG and heavy, it will be ok for a few hours,

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    How high do these things grow ???
    they will get so big that you can't see the moon no more,


    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    To me, the BIG question is to how do you transport the GRAFT to you tree>?
    in your hand?

    a graft is not necessarily BIG and heavy, it will be ok for a few hours,
    Not a lot of help of what you are saying. The question is really: How long between cutting the GRAFTING branch and attaching it to your tree is the question????
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    Namdocmal,

    Matt i would plant that tree in full soil before the roots go circling around in the bucket.

    You can transport scions in a plastic bag with a damp towell and keep it cool.

    Hass is not a western-Indian avocado so it needs a cooler temp then let's say in Phuket.
    last year i have 4 trees growing from seed, now i only have 1 left. i afraid it might die if i plant on the ground now. i don't know how to graft the tree.

    thanks for the advise...

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    Namdocmai

    Matt i would plant that tree in full soil before the roots go circling around in the bucket.

    You can transport scions in a plastic bag with a damp towell and keep it cool.

    Hass is not a western-Indian avocado so it needs a cooler temp then let's say in Phuket.
    last year i have 4 trees growing from seed, now i have 1 left. i'm afraid it might die if i plant on the ground now.

    how old can you graft avocado tree?.

    thanks for advise, Namdocmai

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    You can graft onto a seedling when the stem is about 1 cm diameter.

    You can keep the scion wood for grafting about 2 weeks if kept in a plastic bag with something humid lake wet toiletpaper and kept cool and dark.
    Try to graft asap after taking the scionwood.


    Well i could teach all you guys how to graft but better talk about where to buy them grafted tree's in Thailand. Search for grafting info on internet.

    I bought mine in BKK after a long search but i read many times that they are sold around the Pakchong research centre and around it along the roads.

    สถาบันà¸[at]ินทรีจันทภ£à¸ªà¸–ิตย์เพื่à¸[at]à¸à¸²à¸£à¸„à¹‰à ¸™à¸„ว้าà¹à¸¥à¸°à¸žà¸±à¸’นาพืชศ าสตร์

    My plan is to go there and buy some grafted tree's for myself to play with. I don't want to waste time with growing from seed. Also i read that the pakchong research centre sells avocado tree's but when i contact them i don't get reply.

    I have mangotree's with more then 10 variety's on 1 tree and i also want to do that with avocado-tree. That way you can harvest for a long season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    You can graft onto a seedling when the stem is about 1 cm diameter.

    You can keep the scion wood for grafting about 2 weeks if kept in a plastic bag with something humid lake wet toiletpaper and kept cool and dark.
    Try to graft asap after taking the scionwood.


    Well i could teach all you guys how to graft but better talk about where to buy them grafted tree's in Thailand. Search for grafting info on internet.

    I bought mine in BKK after a long search but i read many times that they are sold around the Pakchong research centre and around it along the roads.

    สถาบันà¸[at]ินทรีจันทรสถิตย์๠€à¸žà¸·à¹ˆà¸[at]à¸à¸²à¸£à¸„้นคว้าà¹à¸¥à¸°à¸žà¸±à¸’ภ™à¸²à¸žà¸·à¸Šà¸¨à¸²à¸ªà¸•à¸£à¹Œ

    My plan is to go there and buy some grafted tree's for myself to play with. I don't want to waste time with growing from seed. Also i read that the pakchong research centre sells avocado tree's but when i contact them i don't get reply.

    I have mangotree's with more then 10 variety's on 1 tree and i also want to do that with avocado-tree. That way you can harvest for a long season.
    Grafting can be interesting, i once grafted 7 different varieties of peaches on to a peach tree.

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    What i would like to know is where in Thailand did you see avocado grow and which variety? The mexican/guatamalan avocado's taste the best but can they be grown all over Thailand?

    And which variety of Western Indian avocado's (for tropical climates) are the best tasting ones and where did you grow them in Thailand?

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    Here's a two year old avocado tree I bought in Korat along the main road. Growing slowly as the soil is crap here in N.Surin. I think it looks like a chicken. I've never seen a full grown one so I don't have any idea what it should look like or any idea what it eventually will look like if it lives. The leaves have rusted out at least once but they came back.




    I wanted to post a pic here but I don't have enough post yet so this is from imgur. Not sure how long it will be up. Just thought some might be interested in seeing what another's tree looks like. At the rate this has been growing, it looks like I should have some fruit in 20 years.

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    A couple more...








    Actually it would make a good Triffid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
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    Actually it would make a good Triffid.


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    You should make a thick layer of mulch (dead plant material) around your tree's. Also add some dolomite and minerals and water it enough.

    Small avocadotree;s can also fruit, yours is almost ready but i would pick them off to let the tree grow faster.

    The mulch will get worms and insects who crawl into the soil so the goodies from the mulch can penetrate your crappy soil. Also add wood-ash , dung , fishbones etc. because they will be beneficial for your soil.

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    Balance,
    i should have some fruit in 20 years.
    holy cow take that long have fruit.

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    No, they should have fruit in 3-5 years but my tree is growing slow so I just said that. If you have good soil or the 'right' soil for this tree, I would think you shouldn't have a problem. My area has terrible soil and can be excessively dry, too.

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    All true Haas avocado trees are from cuttings. Avocados from seed do not grow true to the parent phenotypes (same as apples and a lot of other fruit trees). Although your seeds may come from a "Haas" avocado, you cannot expect a "Haas" type plant or fruit. Avocado trees (from seed) must mature before bearing fruit for 7 or 8 years. The fruit will (probably) not be true to the fruit the seed was harvested from. Cuttings from mature trees grafted to root stocks can generally be expected to fruit in 3 to 5 years. The fruit of cuttings will be the same as the donor (mother) plant.

    For shade an avocado is a great, fast growing evergreen tree. if your growing fro fruit, think decade. Who knows? you may have the next great (unique) avocado cultivar on your hands. You'll need patience to discover that special one, though. I think there is (was?) a government project in Thailand. You can start at this site: Avocado Production in Thailand - Chalongchai Babpraserth and Suranant Subhadrabandhu* to begin to gather some information.
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    The bigger Tops supermarkets sell hass avocado's from the Royal Project. They are very good quality and cheaper then imported ones. I would like to grow Reed avocado but i don't know what variety i am growing now, i bought a grafted tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    The bigger Tops supermarkets sell hass avocado's from the Royal Project. They are very good quality and cheaper then imported ones. I would like to grow Reed avocado but i don't know what variety i am growing now, i bought a grafted tree.
    I had a couple of Reed avo's in Queensland. A large round fruit about the size of a baseball, very good flavour but not a commercial avo' as they do not last long enough for marketing. my trees were about 6 meters high at ten years.

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    Avocado don't do well in my area.Mature Avocado trees[/IMG]Mature Avocado trees[/IMG]

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    @Rubberdiesel,

    Your tree does not look so healthy. The one with more leaves looks better.

    Young avocado-tree's cannot be in full sun all day, maybe you can give them a little shade or partial sun? The stem can get sunburned if in full sun all day, in nature the young tree's grow under the canopy of the older tree's.

    Also adding a thick layer of mulch around the trunk will help the tree to get good nutrients and improve the soil.

    My avocado grows well now, i had fear for rootrot in the wet season but it seems fine.

    Do you know which variety avocado you are growing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubberdiesel View Post
    Avo's do not like "wet feet"

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    Great information, NamDocMai. Thanks!

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    Namdocmai,
    I planted 3 different kind of avocado trees, hass, reed and pinkerton. pinkerton die 4 month ago. i don't know why all the leafs are burned. it very possible you are right my avocado die because it to hot.. i will put up some shade to block sunlight.
    thanks.. matt

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    The tree we have had many of its leaves turn rust color at one point but now the leaves look great. I'd say water the trees every few days but don't drown them. Lately in the hot weather, I've been careful to water the ground but not the leaves. Not sure if that makes a difference but it seems to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro View Post
    The tree we have had many of its leaves turn rust color at one point but now the leaves look great. I'd say water the trees every few days but don't drown them. Lately in the hot weather, I've been careful to water the ground but not the leaves. Not sure if that makes a difference but it seems to have.
    I also don't water the leaves in dry season, i m scared for anthracnose which my mangotree's also will get if being too wet all the time. I spray copper to stop that when i see that the flowers are getting damaged by it.

    I m glad i m not the only farang idiot that try's to grow avocado in LOS. Many Thai told me it is impossible to let them fruit so we will see. I have a grafted tree that might fruit after 2-5 years if all goes well. I have no idea what variety i m growing though so that will be a surprise.

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