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    All this talk about Greenpeace, i.e. Conservationists, reminded me of an encounter I had 30 years ago.

    At that time I was back in high school completing Year 12 to get my TEE so I could go to University.
    One of the guys with whom I shared a Calculus class invited around to his place for a meal.
    So I got to meet his wife, who it turns out worked for the Conservation Council of WA at least I think that is what it was called.
    Anyway during conversation she asked me what I intended to study once I got to University.
    When I replied Mining Engineering the whole conversation changed dramatically.
    Off course me being me I couldn't help but wind her up a little bit by talking about knocking down trees for mining or drilling for oil on the Ningaloo reef.

    Once these people get on their soapbox they are beyond rational discussion.
    I tried pointing out to her that a study in the USA found that Mining interfered with only 2% of the land area compared to that that was cleared to create roads.
    She didn't want to listen.

    Several years later she was elected as a Senator to the Federal Senate of Australia being a member of the Green Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    Several years later she was elected as a Senator to the Federal Senate of Australia being a member of the Green Party.
    Greens Senator WA



    Members of Parliament

    • Senator Rachel Siewert (2005–present)
    • Senator Jordon Steele-John (2017–present)










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    Siewert is from WA and Steels's a bloke.




    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    Once these people get on their soapbox they are beyond rational discussion.
    I guess I'm "one of these people", but I'll have a decent and rational discussion any time. The world isn't black and white and perhaps the actual area of mining itself and alone isn't the determining factor in calculating environmental impact.

    Anyhow, this isn't the thread to discuss that particular topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Anyhow, this isn't the thread to discuss that particular topic.
    It sure isn't and that is why I will refrain from comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    Greens Senator WA



    Members of Parliament

    • Senator Rachel Siewert (2005–present)
    • Senator Jordon Steele-John (2017–present)









    You mybe missed the bit where he said "30 years ago"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    I tried pointing out to her that a study in the USA found that Mining interfered with only 2% of the land area compared to that that was cleared to create roads.
    She didn't want to listen.
    To be honest, if you actually said it like that then it probably just didn't make sense to her.

    Because it...just doesn't make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    Several years later she was elected as a Senator to the Federal Senate of Australia being a member of the Green Party.
    The conclusion you drew from that exchange and the woman's subsequent rise may have been off the mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    All this talk about Greenpeace, i.e. Conservationists, reminded me of an encounter I had 30 years ago.

    Several years later she was elected as a Senator to the Federal Senate of Australia being a member of the Green Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Siewert is from WA and Steels's a bloke.

    I guess I'm "one of these people", but I'll have a decent and rational discussion any time. The world isn't black and white and perhaps the actual area of mining itself and alone isn't the determining factor in calculating environmental impact.

    Anyhow, this isn't the thread to discuss that particular topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    You mybe missed the bit where he said "30 years ago"....

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    I said I met her 30 years ago not that she was a Senator 30 years ago, so it seems that Siewert is the one. I didn't realise she was still in the Senate though I thought she never got re-elected.


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    Why is this not the place for discussion? I thought we were discussing Mendip's work which in my opinion involves mining and also environmental issues and impacts
    Besides that I have not seen there be any restraints about what it and what isn't discussed in Mendip's threads, to me it seems like nothing is off limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    to me it seems like nothing is off limits
    You saw the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot too then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post

    I tried pointing out to her that a study in the USA found that Mining interfered with only 2% of the land area compared to that that was cleared to create roads.
    She didn't want to listen.

    Several years later she was elected as a Senator to the Federal Senate of Australia being a member of the Green Party.


    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    To be honest, if you actually said it like that then it probably just didn't make sense to her.

    Because it...just doesn't make sense.



    The conclusion you drew from that exchange and the woman's subsequent rise may have been off the mark.

    cyrille
    I agree that I probably didn't word it so it was absolutely clear what was meant so maybe I should have typed this instead.

    A study in the USA found that Mining effected only 2% of the land area that was cleared/used to create roads.

    I never drew any conclusion I was just stating that she ended up as a Senator nothing more nothing less.
    But just for you I will state the conclusion I came to AFTER she got elected to Parliament and that was people in Government aren't necessarily smart, passionate maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    But just for you I will state the conclusion I came to AFTER she got elected to Parliament and that was people in Government aren't necessarily smart, passionate maybe.
    Yeah, I got that.

    And I think that's just because you don't share her viewpoint, and you still can't really express what you want to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    A study in the USA found that Mining effected only 2% of the land area that was cleared/used to create roads.
    And her progress might have been, at least in part, because she can.

    But I'm just guessing, obvs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You saw the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot too then.

    I’m still in therapy over the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yeah, I got that.

    And I think that's just because you don't share her viewpoint, and you still can't really express what you want to say.



    And her progress might have been, at least in part, because she can.

    But I'm just guessing, obvs.

    I really struggling to understand what you don't "Get" maybe you can explain to me what it is that is confusing you?

    As for her progress that is a whole different game.

    I can only ask if you understand how Senators are elected in Australia because if you do then your comment is what makes no sense.

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    Dunno how else to say it.

    The statement below plain doesn't make sense.

    Your attempt at snootiness is kind of funny though.

    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    A study in the USA found that Mining effected only 2% of the land area that was cleared/used to create roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    A study in the USA found that Mining effected only 2% of the land area WHEN COMPARED TO that was cleared/used to create roads.
    Probably a little clearer....just tryin' to help

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    Environmental pedantry - it matters

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    Honestly just want to know what he's trying to say.

    Nam Prik Toot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    I’m still in therapy over the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot
    Boxer shorts would be a flattering and generous description for the nightmare inducing undercladdings that the TeakDoor community was menaced with in that thread!

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    ^ i am not looking forward to the forthcoming Turkish Bath episode in Istanbul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    It seems like someone hasn't been flushing their turds... and yes, it's a boat full of adults.

    I'm not one to generalise but after many years experience of working on these boats my suspicion leans towards a Norwegian being the guilty party. I've found that the Norwegians often leave the pan in a terrible state
    Yes, so it's logical to put up a sign in english and not norwegian

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    closely followed by the Scots.
    Oh

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    Fit ye gan on aboot? Awa n bile yer heid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    I’m still in therapy over the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot
    Me too and they were not boxer shorts, that would have been ok but they were ass hugging skivvies and he stood there with Big C plastic sandals.

    Shit. Back to therapy I go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    skivvies
    skiddies - if you had looked closer

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    skiddies - if you had looked closer
    Glad I didn't. Would likely have increased my therapy sessions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Me too and they were not boxer shorts, that would have been ok but they were ass hugging skivvies and he stood there with Big C plastic sandals.

    Shit. Back to therapy I go...

    Jaysus, you added to that mental image. I wonder if anyone is taking the Gardner’s mental well being seriously? He had to help there…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Willy View Post
    I’m still in therapy over the 'DIY in boxers' photoshoot

    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Me too and they were not boxer shorts, that would have been ok but they were ass hugging skivvies and he stood there with Big C plastic sandals.

    Shit. Back to therapy I go...

    Lot's of irrelevant and off topic chatter going on here... I'm glad that OhOh keeps the thread on track with his pertinent, work related questions.


    These are my undercladding of choice... aerated and cheap, what's not to like. I swear by them.

    And I'm not alone by the looks of things... they're currently out of stock.

    And they're not 'boxer shorts' or 'skivvies', they're called 'Sports Ice Silk Moisture Wicking Underwear Wide-brimmed Mesh Breathable Boxer Briefs for Men'.




    Most therapists recommend confronting the cause of your trauma to come to terms with any mental illness, so if you guys are serious about wanting to recover you need to man up a bit.

    I'm not one to push my arse in your faces so to speak, so I leave it up to you.

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