Thread: HAND GUNS

A while back just for yucks I bought a brand new Romanian / Califonianized version of an AK47. Was just semi-auto with a 10 rpund magazine. I got it off one of those gun auctions for just $125usd. I still got it stashed away and it shoots better than my buddy's Russian made AK. It probably only costs $50 to manufacture said AK.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

The everyday sort of individual is not a danger to society.
What is a threat are the emotionally-challenged, addled-brained monkeys that pass as law enforcers/police....

I rather think you are spending too much time out in the sun.

The everyday sort of individual in Thailand is not only a danger to society but to himself.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Americans and your guns, fuk me you're all insane (not you, Davis, the others... ).

...sure we're all insane...too bad we have more firepower than you.

Originally Posted by Submaniac

when I think of high quality I think of Sig Sauer, or a Kimber...but that's just me. And the Glocks are only mid priced guns in the states at around $500. The Kimbers are over a grand.

I've got a Kimber Compact Custom and a Glock 19. As much as I love the Kimber, which is my carry piece, if I could only keep one, I would keep the Glock simply because disassembly on the Kimber is such a bitch.

Originally Posted by Submaniac

...sure we're all insane...too bad we have more firepower than you.

For the moment, but we'll soon be a Muslim nation, so we'll have millions of suicide bombers...

^^

Yup- all you need is one small tool for the Glock.

Originally Posted by Submaniac

Kimbers are just a purdier gun than a Glock (and yes I have a Glock 27). The PIA disasembly is just the charm of a 1911 based firearm.

P.S. if I was in the Philippines I would go for a Glock 18 since full auto is legal there.

I can break down a 1911 blindfolded in seconds. If I were to try to break down my Kimber blindfolded, I would need to pack a lunch.

My Glock 19 was already converted to full auto before the Glock 18 came out. My converted 19 also has a folding stock I made out of lightweight alloy and a 30 round mag, and still fits well in a shoulder rig which conceals under a loose shirt or jacket.

I agree about the cheap Chinese guns. Don't go near them. I hope I never have to live with one in the house but if I ever do it will be a Glock for sure. Probably a model 21 though as has more stopping power and I have seen a 19 jam although I am sure its not common. If you have to use a gun it's better if all the bad guy's are dead. Their side of the story won't stand up that way.

^^What on earth do you do for a living?

^ don't ask, then Davis won't have to kill you...

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Speaking PI, not LOS, but there are also tons of fake permits around. Be very careful where you obtain one. Flippers now have it all computerized (hard to believe, but true). My driver and I both got braced by the coppers a week or so ago. Cops took both our licenses, and permits for concealed carry, back to the local station and ran a computer check. All valid. They then checked the serial numbers of the guns against the permits. Again all good. They then counted rounds of ammunition (limit of 50 per weapon). Again all good. And off we went. Very polite and professional. With the new computerized system, folks with bogus permits are screwed.

Begs the question; Why are you carrying? Is personal security in PI or the local you're in that dangerous? Habit? Job requirements? Drug lord?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Americans and your guns, fuk me you're all insane (not you, Davis, the others... ).

If I had a gun, I think I'd get drunk and shoot someone(s); & I'm relatively sane(ish); I just can't see how a gun culture can be of benefit to society. Sorry. I'll get me hat...

Guns ownership requires a significant level of personal responsibilty. The mistake in the USA is they let people who misuse firearms off lightly while throwing the book at someone who smokes reifer. Its insane how poor implemented the judicial system is.

Take a country like Switzerland where ownership of a firearm is mandatory for everyone. Everyone recieves training and is required to practice at the shooting range. Misuse of a firearm has severe consequenses.
Note that firearm related violence in Switzerland isn't even high enough to chart, while per capita ownership of firearms is higher than perhaps anywhere else on the planet.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Begs the question; Why are you carrying? Is personal security in PI or the local you're in that dangerous? Habit? Job requirements? Drug lord?

All but drug lord.

Originally Posted by thegent

^^What on earth do you do for a living?

I have lived in the PI for many years; I currently own a security company here, among other things. The converted Glock-19 was rigged up basically for something to spray and pray out of a car if need be while doing movements on bodyguard details. Worked well; very accurate with stock. But, you can only use factory ball ammo in full auto mode or it double-feeds and jams up.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

All but drug lord.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Guns ownership requires a significant level of personal responsibilty.

I agree. Most people don't seem to have it.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Guns ownership requires a significant level of personal responsibilty.

I agree. Most people don't seem to have it.

That's were you err, responsible gun owners dont make news headlines. Only the irresponsible ones are the ones you hear about. One really should pause and think prior to swallowing everything MSM tells ya.
Statistics of course vary from country to country as does media coverage of local violence vary significantly.
Think about this; governments feel a whole lot safer with the general public disarmed. Hence the move to demonize firearms and remove them from law abiding citizens. Then you end up with the situation were only criminals posess firearms and the public no longer has any right to defend themselves.

^Although I haven't lived there for decades, and am out of touch, it seems that the current trend in the US is for more and more States making it easier and easier for their residents to get concealed carry permits. True? Seems like there were only a few, and now are a dozen or so?

^^
I kind of see this as a trend too...but it's not so much a legislative trend, but more of the law enforcement officials are allowing it. For example in California, the law is that the sheriff of the county gets to decide who gets a ccw permit. A few years ago it would be near impossible to obtain, but more and more sheriffs are getting hip to the idea of concealed carry.

I just knew that any type of gun thread would attract all the small dicks like flies around a carcass.

Originally Posted by peterpan

I just knew that any type of gun thread would attract all the small dicks like flies around a carcass.

Why all the hatred for people who like guns? I like guns. I also like books, music, motorcycles, and cooking. But the disdain is there only for guns. I also liked archery the few times I tried it. Practice shooting of bows, darts or guns is perfectly harmless, and threatens or harms nobody. I don't hunt, with bow or gun, although I do fish. But in some circles, all you have to do is mention guns, and the hatred and "small dick" comments surface.

I appreciate the feed back regarding hand guns in Thailand.
Thank You