Thread: Shoestring Renovation.

Originally Posted by baldrick

1.5 mm2
2.5 mm2
4 mm 2 - though this is debatable depending on the actual current draw of the aircond and the heater

just make sure he runs separate circuits for the power and the lighting - you should also maybe have 2 or 3 power outlet circuits with an equal number of outlets on each

Water heater is 6000W

Air con I do not know.... But, Bedroom one is 12 sqm floor area with an 2.5 metre ceiling. I was going to buy 9000 BTU... Saw a 7000BTU (Samsung) on special in "Global House, Lamphun" if that would suit a 12sqm floor area (About 30 cubic metres)... I would save money. It is priced at 8990 Baht.

May suit 2nd bedroom as there is a lower ceiling. Same floor area 12sqm but, only 24 cubic metres.

Lounge/passage is 38 sqm facing west (afternoon sun) about 90 cubic metres. Not sure of "optimal" BTU required here? Will research.

Unless there is a "guru" on here who can genuinely advise, both efficiency and running cost.

Ennis

^ Google is your friend. There are plenty of websites that will guide you on BTU requirements.

[QUOTE=baldrick;3105601][.

just make sure he runs separate circuits for the power and the lighting - you should also maybe have 2 or 3 power outlet circuits with an equal number of outlets on each

I did ask if he could use spare capacity in the "safety cut box" for different rooms, he understood but, it is down to his discretion as to where and how to use that spare capacity.

I have little choice but to defer to those in the know....

I'm guessing you have suggested this as it is "best practice"? If so I am better informed. Work commences tomorrow (Monday 21st). I will "confirm" with him on the separation of circuits.

Ceiling now commences tomorrow as well... Pics should follow tomorrow night all being well

Originally Posted by Ennis

Air con I do not know.... But, Bedroom one is 12 sqm floor area with an 2.5 metre ceiling. I was going to buy 9000 BTU... Saw a 7000BTU (Samsung) on special in "Global House, Lamphun" if that would suit a 12sqm floor area (About 30 cubic metres)... I would save money. It is priced at 8990 Baht.

May suit 2nd bedroom as there is a lower ceiling. Same floor area 12sqm but, only 24 cubic metres.

Lounge/passage is 38 sqm facing west (afternoon sun) about 90 cubic metres. Not sure of "optimal" BTU required here? Will research.

Be sure you do not try and save money by buying a cheaper A/C.

It must be the correct size to suit the room.

To big or too small and you have saved nothing.

Originally Posted by baldrick

1.5 mm2
2.5 mm2
4 mm 2 - though this is debatable depending on the actual current draw of the aircond and the heater

just make sure he runs separate circuits for the power and the lighting - you should also maybe have 2 or 3 power outlet circuits with an equal number of outlets on each

1.5 mm2 for the lighting circuits

2.5 mm2 for the Power Circuits.

A/C should not require more than 2.5 mm unless industrial.

Regards the Water heater or Oven the size of the cable required is directly related to the draw of the water heater or Oven.

We have been through this all before.

And yes Baldrick is correct,

Your GPO's should have two separate circuits.

Sounds like your Electrician is on the ball.

[QUOTE=baldrick;3105487][B]Any one who is not a Licensed electrical worker in a country which adheres to IEC regulations needs to stop giving Electrical Installation advice



Absolutely, spot on baldrick, A1

To the offenders you know who you are , so do we !

The ceiling man and his workers arrived around lunchtime...

The team is two males & two females....

This lady is the wife of the builder, heluva nice woman.



This on it a fully fledged team member and only 24... She worked tirelessly..


The builder...


And his regular assistant....




Incredibly impressed with the entire crew's work ethic....

More to follow....

Never seen a ceiling installed anywhere, so am intrigued to see it take shape...

The erected the framework and completed the entire house...


More...



quite boring eh...

I have absolutely no idea if it is good bad or indifferent.... But, I guess for a little over 15,000 Baht (Parts & Labour)... It cannot be exceptional... Anyhow will see when it is finished....

Ennis

One last thing...

Whilst hanging around I went to look at our water meter.

The story is it has been dripping quite heavily... A bucket every couple of hours, hence, everyone always turned it off.... SO..

I went and bought a new one... and (this is important) "Replicated" the installation... People saw me doing it and it was not long before the village "committee man" - not the head honcho... Came to look.

Apparently there is someone in the village that changes these meters and it was not supposed to be me... I said but, it has been dripping lots of water for more than five years.... I got one of those looks that says to a person "no-ones home!!"....

No worries he said.. he will sort it out... Just keep the old meter.

Here's the new one installed, same configuration and height...


The only change I made was to fit a 3/4" tap instead of the 1/2"... Reason was to prevent the "venturi effect" caused by the narrow 1/2" tap.... Water pressure has improved...

Ennis

Shouldn't you install the electrical for lightings before they do the ceiling. I did my restuarant and the first thing that the ceiling guys did was installed all the electrical points for lights or ceiling fans. Just asking from experience. Cheers.

Originally Posted by Eric Loh

Shouldn't you install the electrical for lightings before they do the ceiling. I did my restuarant and the first thing that the ceiling guys did was installed all the electrical points for lights or ceiling fans. Just asking from experience. Cheers.

Thanks Eric - we did exactly that.. installed the "core" electrical first, next ceiling framework; followed by more electrics; then the actual ceiling. The Ceiling guy & Electrician work together on the job...

At least this is how they said it works...

Thanks for the comment mate..

Thanks to Terry, Baldric, Dead Metal Crepitas Eric and anyone I have overlooked for your input.

OFF TOPIC:
Could be an Eagles Dockers final this year... As a Perth guy, this would be nice.. Not sure if it still must be held in Melbourne? Been away too long to keep up with all the news..

Something (else) I did not know (Hopefully it will help someone else who also does not know)

My wife went to the "electric authority" to have the account transferred to her name.

That side was not an issue, however, we were told our meter box was 5 amp and he suggested we change to 15 Amp. The cost of this is 4,300 Baht.

Did not know about this whatsoever but it is quite an expense... Do not know if we need it, but, 5 Amp seems a little light with our potential current draw.

No way I could ask because as previously stated "Electrics", is the least of my strong points.

Ennis

Originally Posted by Ennis

OFF TOPIC:
Could be an Eagles Dockers final this year... As a Perth guy, this would be nice.. Not sure if it still must be held in Melbourne? Been away too long to keep up with all the news..

And an all-QLD grand final in the NRL. But the two GFs will be in Melbourne and Sydney as usual, the leagues have long-term contracts with the stadium owners. The domestic airlines are loving it!

( 'Eagles' and 'Dockers' are AFL clubs for the uninitiated. And AFL is 'Australian Rules', or w@nking as it is sometimes known - they have no international competition, so can only play with themselves.
NRL is Rugby League. )

Good stuff here re electricity btw. I've bookmarked your thread for future reference.

Originally Posted by Ennis

We were told our meter box was 5 amp and he suggested we change to 15 Amp. The cost of this is 4,300 Baht.

Do not know if we need it, but, 5 Amp seems a little light with our potential current draw.

The advice is sound and the cost is reasonable.

Pay the money and get it done.

Originally Posted by Ennis

The ceiling man and his workers arrived around lunchtime...

The team is two males & two females....



This on it a fully fledged team member and only 24... She worked tirelessly..


.

Thats a full sized dolly right there, I like em a bit chunky myself. Good thread ennis enjoying it a lot, plenty of good info

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

Originally Posted by Ennis

The ceiling man and his workers arrived around lunchtime...

The team is two males & two females....



This on it a fully fledged team member and only 24... She worked tirelessly..


.

Thats a full sized dolly right there, I like em a bit chunky myself. Good thread ennis enjoying it a lot, plenty of good info

She has a nice personality to... Oh and green nail polish

Originally Posted by bindog

Originally Posted by Ennis

OFF TOPIC:
Could be an Eagles Dockers final this year... As a Perth guy, this would be nice.. Not sure if it still must be held in Melbourne? Been away too long to keep up with all the news..

And an all-QLD grand final in the NRL. But the two GFs will be in Melbourne and Sydney as usual, the leagues have long-term contracts with the stadium owners. The domestic airlines are loving it!

( 'Eagles' and 'Dockers' are AFL clubs for the uninitiated. And AFL is 'Australian Rules', or w@nking as it is sometimes known - they have no international competition, so can only play with themselves.
NRL is Rugby League. )

Good stuff here re electricity btw. I've bookmarked your thread for future reference.

Help from forum members has been invaluable... Don't normally piss in anyone's pocket (Colloquial OZ), however Baldric and Terry seem worth listening to regards electrics...
Thanks

Ennis

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Ennis

We were told our meter box was 5 amp and he suggested we change to 15 Amp. The cost of this is 4,300 Baht.

Do not know if we need it, but, 5 Amp seems a little light with our potential current draw.

The advice is sound and the cost is reasonable.

Pay the money and get it done.

Thought someone would say that.... We will authorise the change tomorrow.. Guess I was hoping you all would chime in and say unnecessary, don't bother, etc...

Ennis

I had a similar experience at my local electric office. But I had been advised that I didn't need it, so I didn't upgrade. Later, those same people asked me why I didn't get the higher amp setup!

My advice now? Get the upgrade. Although I haven't had any problems that I can definitely attribute to my current (no pun intended) setup, it's better safe than sorry, plus it costs more if you decide to change later.

Originally Posted by Ennis

Something (else) I did not know (Hopefully it will help someone else who also does not know)

My wife went to the "electric authority" to have the account transferred to her name.

That side was not an issue, however, we were told our meter box was 5 amp and he suggested we change to 15 Amp. The cost of this is 4,300 Baht.

Did not know about this whatsoever but it is quite an expense... Do not know if we need it, but, 5 Amp seems a little light with our potential current draw.

No way I could ask because as previously stated "Electrics", is the least of my strong points.

Ennis

Will let the experts comment on the necessity of a higher Amp but I can tell you that the PEA charge extra to increase the Amp. Again from experience when I needed higher Amp for my engineering factory. That price you mentioned was about right. Cheers.

Originally Posted by terp80

I had a similar experience at my local electric office. But I had been advised that I didn't need it, so I didn't upgrade. Later, those same people asked me why I didn't get the higher amp setup!

My advice now? Get the upgrade. Although I haven't had any problems that I can definitely attribute to my current (no pun intended) setup, it's better safe than sorry, plus it costs more if you decide to change later.

Thanks Terp80, we authorised the upgrade today after Terry's post. This is what we found:
They schedule you for the upgrade, but cannot tell you when it will be done. We only pay them AFTER they upgrade... Now that's a new one, was expecting to pay up front and wait until my time came around. This is all in the Pa Sang PEA.

Thanks for the advice...

Ennis

Can we have some more pics of the full size dolly? Just kidding mate, like yourself I opted to buy my gaff rather than building, could see years of headfucks coming. But having said that I've spent a motza renovating the one I bought, over a period of 9 years, had to totally replace the ceiling upstairs and downstairs coz of the mechanical dandruff otherwise known as termites, or crabs if they get on your bollocks, gutted the Lao style kitchen and bathrooms, all a bit of a headfuck. won't be doing it again that's for sure. Turned out nice though and her indoors is pleased as punch. Never seen a more house proud woman.