Thread: BD dream getting there

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Koman would encase it in concrete then add sparkly bits to the exterior...

No Mr Smartass, he would not..... But I would make damned sure the setup was properly installed with proper gas lines and sniffers to detect even the smallest leak....and have the tank(s) outside the building. The more you confine the tank the bigger the potential bang.....and you need very good ventilation around the tank...as well as regular inspections of the mechanical connections at both tank end and burner.

Good installations and safety measures are just as important in commercial buildings (and tightly regulated in civilized places) as they are in homes. Generally speaking you have the potential to kill or injure a lot more people in a restaurant than in most homes.....most of the time.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I wonder what he is setting you up for??? That'll likely be a great thread by itself...

I have no idea I may be setting him up He has plans to make and sell furniture with thoughts to exporting. But for now I got a load of wood so cheap nobody believes how much we paid for it.

Originally Posted by koman

I don't think it's that dangerous at all. I've been using stoves like these on a daily basis here in Thailand for 4 years now and I've never seen anything potentially hazardous?

That's exactly the kind of thing I listened to from clients over 30 years. My building can't burn down....I'm a very good driver....by boat is unsinkable....

Somehow in the midst of all this confidence they managed to burn down quite a few buildings; had a lot of car accidents and even sank a few boats. Nothing bad ever happens....until it does....

Any propane cooking arrangement is "potentially hazardous".....but some are way more hazardous than others... They are actually quite lethal in some cases. Once you've seen the results of a propane gas explosion and fire you never think like that again....ever. I've seen several, and they were all totally safe according to the owners....who just could not understand how anybody would think otherwise....[/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess you're right about propane being potentially hazardous, there's no denying it.

On the other hand most things we do are actually potentially hazardous, think about these:
-Driving a car, especially LPG cars
-Using electric water heaters, I've heard of a few electrocutions here in Thailand
-Eating fast food increases the chance of getting a heart attack
-Etc.

Originally Posted by bankao dreamer

I do know a bit about gas installations from my time in the UK when I was a Corgi

I'm sorry, BD, but I really don't see how that is gonna help you in this case...

Originally Posted by Koetjeka

Using electric water heaters, I've heard of a few electrocutions here in Thailand

There have been lots of electrocutions in Thailand as a result of old, unsafe water heaters....especially in hotels and resorts.

The modern water heaters are equipped with a ground fault interrupter (GFI} which makes them a great deal safer. They are called RCDs in the EU....(Residual current devise)

I've added secondary ground fault interrupter switches for all bathroom outlets to make them as safe as possible. Even if the water heater safety cut-out should fail, the secondary GFI will cut the current off instantly if it starts trying to flow through you instead of the neutral wire..... Simple devises , simple and cheap technology which many people either ignore, or just don't know about....but they are life savers...

Gas sniffers are also cheap and effective. If your gas line started leaking under the counter for example; the sniffer will set off an alarm so you can shut off the gas, and fix it before it blows your roof off and sends to off to your next life as an investment banker, or TD moderator......

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by bankao dreamer

I do know a bit about gas installations from my time in the UK when I was a Corgi

I'm sorry, BD, but I really don't see how that is gonna help you in this case...

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Koetjeka

Using electric water heaters, I've heard of a few electrocutions here in Thailand

There have been lots of electrocutions in Thailand as a result of old, unsafe water heaters....especially in hotels and resorts.

The modern water heaters are equipped with a ground fault interrupter (GFI} which makes them a great deal safer. They are called RCDs in the EU....(Residual current devise)

I've added secondary ground fault interrupter switches for all bathroom outlets to make them as safe as possible. Even if the water heater safety cut-out should fail, the secondary GFI will cut the current off instantly if it starts trying to flow through you instead of the neutral wire..... Simple devises , simple and cheap technology which many people either ignore, or just don't know about....but they are life savers...

Gas sniffers are also cheap and effective. If your gas line started leaking under the counter for example; the sniffer will set off an alarm so you can shut off the gas, and fix it before it blows your roof off and sends to off to your next life as an investment banker, or TD moderator......

Or you could go solar as I did and not have to worry about becoming a TD mod for that reason anyway

Probably very calm people who settle fights???

Well work has resumed after the madness that is Songkran. Our electricians have returned and prier to starting the wiring they started sanding and staining the tables and benches. A pic of these when they are all finished and in position.

The kitchen overhang is complete and it takes away all direct sunlight, plus with the lower roof the whole restaurant is nice and cool without any fans installed.





I also managed to fix the rail surrounding the restaurant while every body else had buggered off, you can see a bit of it in the above pic.

As I strolled up to post these pics they have just started the front overhang. This will be a lot smaller than the back one as it doesn't get a lot of sun.

Restaurant is looking great BD

Originally Posted by justincase 13

Hey Koman I was just wondering where you bought your GFI's at and do they look like the ones we are use to seeing in the states????

I did not buy them, they were supplied by the electrical contractor.....and no they are not the same as the ones usually seen in the US and Canada where the actual wall plug itself is a GFI devise. These are separate switches wired into the circuit, but they work the same way.....( any change in current flow greater than 30mA from live to neutral will cut off the flow....I think some of them can be adjusted to different sensitivity levels but 30mA seems to be the standard cut off level)

I've enjoyed all this thread .

And your house is lovely .

But it all looks a bit lonely out there . Who will your restaurant customers be ?



Wasp

^^ Those posts are fantastic! The ones I've seen before are just a so-so wood imitation. That man did a great job.

Make sure to let us see some pics of them finished.

Originally Posted by Wasp

Who will your restaurant customers be ?

We are not far from a lot of Gov buildings. a big police station and by us there is no where half decent and quiet. We watch daily people like this drive past to a shack 2 villages away to get lunch.

Originally Posted by misskit

Make sure to let us see some pics of them finished.

He came and painted them a couple of days ago I will hopefully get some pics on tomorrow. He used 2 different colours so the imitation branches and missing bark look so life like the guy is really talented. For those interested Bhat 1500 per post. Although he may charge more for anyone else as he is a friend of the family and lives in our village.

...... changed my mind .






Wasp

Originally Posted by Wasp

..... changed my mind .

Sorry folks about the delay but here are the finished posts.







The gate with fancy bits, still have to put up the lights tho.




The restaurant the day before we opened.

That has turned out very very well...

You may want to fence of the carpark or the locals will stick their 4x4s right upto the entrance, cms fom it!

It's hard to read that Menu ..... but I think the first offering is Leo and then the second item is Chang .

So you're establishing priorities OK



Wasp

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

That has turned out very very well...

Thank you Betty we have tried to offer somewhere a little bit better than the competition without breaking the bank.

Originally Posted by Wasp

but I think the first offering is Leo and then the second item is Chang .

So you're establishing priorities OK

Spot on the next 2 are Hong Thong and the rest other locally liked beverages.

Looks Fantastic BD, Hope all goes well, keep us posted on your business.

Originally Posted by FatOne

Looks Fantastic BD, Hope all goes well, keep us posted on your business.

Agreed: Fantastic. Good luck. Let us see some photos with lots of people on a Saturday night.