Windows 7

**Butterfly** · 22-10-2009, 01:36 PM

^ quite clever, actually remind me of Steve Jobs who did a very similar trick with MacOS 8 and System 7.6 and fucked everyone over for upgrades as you had to pay twice for it at the end

**Fuzzy Bob** · 22-10-2009, 01:41 PM

Steve Jobs = Corporate greed in a nice jumper

**Butterfly** · 22-10-2009, 02:00 PM

yes he is a slick bastard,

**melvbot** · 22-10-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Takeovers

It shows 6.1 (Build 7600)

hum, that's interesting. Repacking Windows 6 as Windows 7 ?

Why what did you think it was? A new OS?

Its an update on Vista if anything.

**melvbot** · 22-10-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Repacking Windows 6 as Windows 7

It is merely a very expensive service pack fixing Vista.

Windows users should be up in arms complaining about having to pay for it but apparently they are so relieved that they can get away from Vista they are lapping it up.

Clever move by MS, the shareholders will be delighted.

Pretty true. I thinks thats why Snow Leopard was so cheap as it was more of an update than anything. Thing is Microsoft doesnt have much apart from software to gain revenue whereas Apple got the iTunes and App store etc along with the hardware.

The Xbox must be making a profit by now, the best thing Microsofts ever done apart from XP.

**melvbot** · 22-10-2009, 02:37 PM

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**mc2** · 22-10-2009, 05:27 PM

Ill be picking up my copy of windows7 pro for $30 as I qualify as an academic

apparently i dont even have to have an old version of windows as the free RC version i am running can be used as the "upgrade".

**Butterfly** · 22-10-2009, 05:30 PM

I guess there more MS suckers than Apple suckers at the end

**harrybarracuda** · 22-10-2009, 07:04 PM

I've been using Ultimate since RTM on three machines, and one thing I will say is that I have not yet (touch wood) seen a single blue screen of death! Makes a frigging change that does.

But yeah, it's Vista with all the crap taken out to make it work faster. No massive technology leaps here I'm afraid.

**Marmite the Dog** · 22-10-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I've been using Ultimate since RTM on three machines, and one thing I will say is that I have not yet (touch wood) seen a single blue screen of death! Makes a frigging change that does.

I've been running XP on this PC for 18 months, 24 hours a day and have yet to see a blue screen either.

**slackula** · 22-10-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I've been running XP on this PC for 18 months, 24 hours a day

You have an uptime of 18 months with XP?

**Marmite the Dog** · 22-10-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by slackula

You have an uptime of 18 months with XP?

No. I have rebooted when doing updates or when I had a powercut. I also moved house and I didn't have a long enough extension lead to reach from Bangkok to Udon, so it was unplugged for a day or so then.

But no blue screens of death. I think the longest without a reboot is a few weeks.

**k1klass** · 23-10-2009, 04:09 AM

Just as a note for anyone, i did not want to re-install from 7rc as ive just too much on at the min and did not want to spend days downloading and re-installing so with a quick edit you can get the upgrade to work to rtm which it has done perfectly with no problems what so ever.

It just got to be the same sku

windows 7rc upgrade to rtm link

**Butterfly** · 23-10-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I've been running XP on this PC for 18 months, 24 hours a day and have yet to see a blue screen either.

blue screen are quite rare under Win2000 and WinXP,

Originally Posted by slackula

You have an uptime of 18 months with XP?

I have an uptime of 6 months on a Win2000 machine, very reliable

**Marmite the Dog** · 23-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

blue screen are quite rare under Win2000 and WinXP,

I used to get quite a few when XP first came out on an old laptop, but it's a well developed, stable OS now.

**Takeovers** · 23-10-2009, 05:27 PM

I have now downloaded and installed Virtual PC and XP mode.

The scanner driver is installed and works. I can now do a scan. However everytime I use it I have to activate the USB-Link so I cannot call up the scanner from the Win 7 desktop. I have to start the virtual machine instead and activate USB. I will see if I can get around that. But it is still much more convenient than rebooting to XP and it does not require a separate XP partition.

But just to be safe I will keep the old XP partition for a few more months.

The only remaining thing not yet migrated to Win 7 is the email- and usenet software. I am used to OE and cannot get it into 7. So I need to make a choice first.

Thunderbird looks nice but has a few things I don't like.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-10-2009, 11:27 PM

Have a look at PhoenixMail if you want an alternative to Outlook Express. I'm not sure why MS were mean enough to remove Windows Mail in this release.

Regarding the blue screens, the main reason for them is hardware support, and in my experience mostly video drivers. I've seen them on every release from 2000 onwards, but they go away as drivers are released and/or fixed.

What impresses me about W7 is I'm running it on three different sets of hardware (ASUS, Dell and HP) and it hasn't blinked on any of them. The only issue I've found is the Bluetooth hardware in the Dell, but Dell haven't provided a decent driver for that pile of crap since the original that came with the installed XP (and which was totally unreliable). Since I don't use Bluetooth on that computer, I'm not really bothered.

I've got Office 2007 on it, so I was chuffed to bits to see 447Mb of updates arrive the other day!

**Takeovers** · 27-10-2009, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Have a look at PhoenixMail if you want an alternative to Outlook Express. I'm not sure why MS were mean enough to remove Windows Mail in this release.

Will give it a try.

Windows Mail is the one supplied with Vista as a replacement for OE? Windows live mail can be downloded as part of the windows live package. I had only a short look on it.

**Butterfly** · 27-10-2009, 08:17 AM

I find it hard to understand why would anyone upgrade to Win7, with no improvement of any kind, when WinXP is functioning perfectly

is it a case of geeks being bored with their toys and need a new one ?

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-10-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

is it a case of geeks being bored with their toys and need a new one ?

That, and a slightly rounded edge to the graphics.

**Bobcock** · 27-10-2009, 11:46 AM

I'm gonna stick with XP for now, made that decision before and it turned out to be a good one.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Our IT Dept made the same decision as well and we all working fine, though they tell me they will go to W7 eventually and run in 64 bit mode as it will make a lot of the engineering software run faster.

**Takeovers** · 27-10-2009, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Butterfly

is it a case of geeks being bored with their toys and need a new one ?

That, and a slightly rounded edge to the graphics.

Guilty as charged.

But in my defense I like to add that I needed a license for the new laptop and why should I buy another XP?

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-10-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Takeovers

But in my defense I like to add that I needed a license for the new laptop and why should I buy another XP?

Fair enough for new machines. We were discussing the needless upgrading to W7 if you already have XP.

**harrybarracuda** · 27-10-2009, 06:31 PM

Have a look here and to see what's new (and removed):

Windows 7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For me, it is a much nicer interface than XP, but as a result there is a learning curve. Not much of one though.

It is much, much better when it comes to handling multimedia, and the HomeGroup feature is designed to make connecting your home PCs - and neworked Multimedia devicesm if you have them - almost plug and play. I really like this feature as I have multimedia players in two rooms and two PCs as well (plus two networked satellite decoders). I can control them all from either PC. That alone sold me on it.

It handles multicore processors much better, allegedly.

It handles virtual drives and improves remote access; Haven't tried either yet, and I still think I prefer the free Logmein for Remote Control anyway.

It's much easier to configure multiple monitors and video cards, apparently.

Windows Media Centre (ok they spell it wrong, bless them) is new and improved, but I don't use it enough to tell you if it's worth it.

There is no compelling reason to move, but if you do use home networking and multimedia, then I think you will like it enough to try it out.

There's more info on Homegroup here:

Windows 7 features - HomeGroup - Microsoft Windows

**Butterfly** · 27-10-2009, 06:55 PM

^ WinXP is already superb in terms of simplicity for Network, and all kind of Devices

I fail to see how it can be improved, or else we go into Mac territory, that is a user interface for the intellectually challenged and the idiots out there who can't even connect a USB cable without help.

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