Thread: Home network - Help needed

Nobody ?

You, all the the computer experts who roam this forum, wtf are you ?

^

Baldrick can do it.

PM him.

Originally Posted by Perota

Nobody ? You, all the the computer experts who roam this forum, wtf are you ?

Wtf is your problem, ie what is it you want to config that you can't?

Why don't you try asking what it is you want rather than couching it in vague terms.

Do you want someone to come round your house?

Or do you have specific problems you want to address, in which case ask them.

she wants the full package,

harry, time for you to demonstrating your commercial skills and charge her 12 USD for it

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Perota

Nobody ? You, all the the computer experts who roam this forum, wtf are you ?

Wtf is your problem, ie what is it you want to config that you can't?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why don't you try asking what it is you want rather than couching it in vague terms.

Do you want someone to come round your house?

Or do you have specific problems you want to address, in which case ask them.

Ok, let's start by describing the problem then you can advise me on the best course of action. Sorry it's a bit messy but as I said I'm no profesional

- Internet gateway

- Firewall (pfsense ?)

- 3 subnetworks
- Home automation (IP cameras and other stuff like checking windows/doors are closed, air cond ...)
- Home entertainment (NAS, 4 TVs ...)
- "public" wifi for phones and people coming to the house

The networks should be separated at the firewall level. The computers I use for my personal business will be connected to the home entertainment network.

I've already done a number of things but I need some help to put everything together, the first thing would be the firewall.

If you have questions at this stage feel free to ask

Originally Posted by terry57

^

Baldrick can do it.

PM him.

I believe so but I'm no stalker. If he wants to help, it's up to him.

Theres nothing worse than helping some computer illiterate fucker online.

Get someone who knows what theyre doing to come to your house and sort it.

Originally Posted by Perota

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Perota

Nobody ? You, all the the computer experts who roam this forum, wtf are you ?

Wtf is your problem, ie what is it you want to config that you can't?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why don't you try asking what it is you want rather than couching it in vague terms.

Do you want someone to come round your house?

Or do you have specific problems you want to address, in which case ask them.

Ok, let's start by describing the problem then you can advise me on the best course of action. Sorry it's a bit messy but as I said I'm no profesional

- Internet gateway

- Firewall (pfsense ?)

- 3 subnetworks
- Home automation (IP cameras and other stuff like checking windows/doors are closed, air cond ...)
- Home entertainment (NAS, 4 TVs ...)
- "public" wifi for phones and people coming to the house

The networks should be separated at the firewall level. The computers I use for my personal business will be connected to the home entertainment network.

I've already done a number of things but I need some help to put everything together, the first thing would be the firewall.

If you have questions at this stage feel free to ask

Most modern routers have an adequate firewall to be honest. Something like the NetGear NightHawk X6 that has excellent Wifi speed and also a Guest network for those visitors.

Then behind that put a Layer 3 switch like the Cisco SG300 that supports ACLs/Packet Filtering.

Haven't played with PFSense, although I understand they rolled out a vastly improved interface in May.

Have you got a modem or wireless wifi?

Originally Posted by Perota

What do you think I'm trying to do dickhead.

As youve been told, Baldrick is the guy to ask on here. He's offered to go round peoples houses before. I cant recall if it was to solve computrer issues or the offer of bumfun though.

My advice would be to join a dedicated networking forum or buy some lube.


Theres also a free pdf version of this if you google it......

Originally Posted by Perota

Originally Posted by terry57

^

Baldrick can do it.

PM him.

I believe so but I'm no stalker. If he wants to help, it's up to him.

Jesus Christ,

A quick PM a few beers for his trouble and you may be sorted.

Whatever.

On the other hand he may tell you to fook off.

Who knows.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Have you got a modem or wireless wifi?

WTF?

Have you been getting lessons from Buttplug?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Most modern routers have an adequate firewall to be honest. Something like the NetGear NightHawk X6 that has excellent Wifi speed and also a Guest network for those visitors.

Then behind that put a Layer 3 switch like the Cisco SG300 that supports ACLs/Packet Filtering.

Haven't played with PFSense, although I understand they rolled out a vastly improved interface in May.

The advantage of pfsense is I can use an old computer that I already have, just need to buy a couple of network cards. That I already have ;-)

Also I cannot use the wifi from the router as it will be in a room from where the signal can't reach the other part of the house. I already tried, it doesn't work.

That said I never used a layer 3 switch so more studies needed but why not.

Here a quick view of my current set up

Originally Posted by Perota

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Most modern routers have an adequate firewall to be honest. Something like the NetGear NightHawk X6 that has excellent Wifi speed and also a Guest network for those visitors.

Then behind that put a Layer 3 switch like the Cisco SG300 that supports ACLs/Packet Filtering.

Haven't played with PFSense, although I understand they rolled out a vastly improved interface in May.

The advantage of pfsense is I can use an old computer that I already have, just need to buy a couple of network cards. That I already have ;-)

Also I cannot use the wifi from the router as it will be in a room from where the signal can't reach the other part of the house. I already tried, it doesn't work.

That said I never used a layer 3 switch so more studies needed but why not.

If you want to extend your Wifi coverage, use Power line adapters.

I've had excellent results with Devolo.

http://www.johnlewis.com/devolo-dlan...=c&tmcampid=73

Originally Posted by Perota

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the reason for the managed switch is sometimes a camera will lock up and is easily fixed by just cycling the power - you may want to just go with a 4 port as they are mostly 100mbit units and 1080p video streams even in h264 are bandwidth intensive

for your NVR have a look at https://zoneminder.com/ - you can install it on your old PC etc

I have not played with it for years but back then it was easily the most versatile - but a bit of learning - but they have a active forum

I have yet to try this , but I think I will buy a storage battery and use it with an APC unit I have that I need to change the battery on

^ Thanks for the detailed information. I'm more interested to install ptz (point-to-zoom) cameras which have the ability to position and zoom the camera to a specific area of interest. I've contacted directly a number of manufacturers and most of the available cameras don't have the poe function. Also, when it is available they require a more powerful poe switch than the average switch.



I also tried zoneminder but after a few tests I found ispy https://www.ispyconnect.com/ easier to set up. But that was almost one year ago, the newer version may be different.

Actually what I'm looking for is someone to work with me. There is a lot of research and work involved, a bit too much for a single person and also two brains are usually better to solve problems than one. Anybody that is interested is welcome to contact me.

Originally Posted by Perota

ptz

- point - tilt - zoom

I actually do not like them because they can be moved - people just cannot put them back where they are supposed to point - when I was doing this stuff years ago I was trying to get an addition to the firmware for a preset position which the camera would return after a set time of no activity - after the phb's had stopped playing with their toys

a poe injector may be the answer for the extra current required - poe injector - ???? poe injector ????????????????? Thailand | www.lazada.co.th

my preference would be for discrete mini domes , ip65 , poe , 1080p x264 ( x265 maybe ) with some vandal protection on the glass - a paintball weapon would remove obvious cameras from a distance

also a problem is the cameras all seemed to flare when an IR source was pointed at them - not sure if you can get lenses now with a filter to stop that - a 12 volt IR led array and a can of spraypaint would cause an issue

^ With new software you can draw zone of interest on which your camera will focus automatically.

Also you can have different kind of camera for different kind of job. You can have a fix outdoor camera pointing to the entrance door but you may also need a ptz indoor camera to supervise workers.

Then we have the next problem, how to check these cameras from outside ? I don't really like the manufacturers' cloud solution. First because I don't trust them, then if you chose to mix and match cameras from different manufacturers things may easily get complicated.


Then we have the security problem. IP cameras can be hacked that's why I want to physically separate the IP network from the general network. Hence the patch panel.

Also I believe (mistakenly ?)that a solution based on pfsense is more easy to configure than a standard router to keep sub network separated.

Then we have the "entertainment" network and the family server ...