Thread: Urgent Need Advice From Super Smart Network IT Wonk

Thank you for listening:

1. I need just a bit of advice or opinion about a network related computer problem.

2. I know there is someone on Teak Door who is probably smarter than half of the people in Thailand about the IT field of networks.

3. MY SITUATION:

a. Here is a small hotel/service apartment with up to 200 people living in 4 buildings very close together.

b. All rooms have cable TV.

c. Rooms are not "high rent" but modest in price, NOT cheap.

d. During the past months, two separate companies have installed wireless systems to provide internet connectivity, both to the rooms and outside in the commons, a small courtyard.

e. The problem is that the internet runs like crappola, only worse. It is bad, sometimes slow speed, but it also cuts off, and looses connection either for 3 hours at a time, or sometimes it will just shut down for 3 minutes and then come back up again.

f. I think the server is a linux based system with two separate boxes. The IT people do not know linux and so need to contract with a provider to maintain the server and set it up, or modify it. Service is PURE GARBAGE.

g. Here are the questions:

11 Is it really necessary from a service or connection quality point of view to even have a server? Why not just throw out the servers and the maintenance company, and then just hire someone to connect the isp provided connects directly to the network inside the condo apt complex?

22. Or, what is the best way to substitute a much easier system which can do the same thing as the servers? which will not require advance IT tweaking or rebuilding of the server?

33. I will be happy to provide more details, but I don't know what info to provide. Basically it is just 150 rooms with about 200 to 250 computers all connected to the network by wireless access points.

44. The OTHER THING I had wondered: Why not just use the existing cable wires which go to all the room TV Sets? Couldn't these be used to send internet signal directly to the rooms?

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I am not asking for this info like I am asking for FREE ADVICE when I should be paying for it. This network is not MY network, and I just want to try to understand what these people are doing wrong that seems to have the whole network completely Fd up!

It might be a good thought experiment for you.

I also bet that there are many other apt complexes who are being sold much more networking hardware and software than they actually need.

TKS!

If true, then that is unfortunate there is not cable internet provider which could come in and just provide cable internet to all the rooms at a low price per room. That wold be the absolutely simplest best solution.

If this is not possible, then what?

I am not trying to find a solution for myself. I am just trying to understand what they are doing wrong? For example, some IT people have suggested to me that it is overkill to use a server even though there are 200 wireless users and about 40 access points.

My question still exists though: Why the servers need to be included in this network. And what is the best way to do this if there are not qualified network people easily available?

The reason I am wondering is that I thought with a little info, then I could just make a few suggestions to the management, which might be helpful, and also finally benefit me in the long run (perhaps).

So hopefully we can have a bit more input here about the above.

TKS!

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

If true, then that is unfortunate there is not cable internet provider which could come in and just provide cable internet to all the rooms at a low price per room. That wold be the absolutely simplest best solution.

Have you been there long? What is the management set-up? In my experience of living in such places, some dodgy Thai will be the head of some committee and would've made some money out of doing a dodgy deal with his brother in law... It'll never work, and never be fixed... These set-ups are an absolute can of worms (like that one?); take care. If you upset such folk, they become very unpleasant very quickly, and you'll end up having to move...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

If true, then that is unfortunate there is not cable internet provider which could come in and just provide cable internet to all the rooms at a low price per room. That wold be the absolutely simplest best solution.

Have you been there long? What is the management set-up? In my experience of living in such places, some dodgy Thai will be the head of some committee and would've made some money out of doing a dodgy deal with his brother in law... It'll never work, and never be fixed... These set-ups are an absolute can of worms (like that one?); take care. If you upset such folk, they become very unpleasant very quickly, and you'll end up having to move...

Exactly! I have been thinking about just this response to my putting in my 2 cents. No one, no one, probably will appreciate it. And I am going to keep my trap shut.

However, I thought it would be nice to think about, and to know more about. This way, if I am ever asked, then I can express a more educated opinion. I like where I am, VERY MUCH, and would not want to move. The internet is a can of worms, as you say. This is NOT

We dont want you to be able to post more.

WIFI is provided by a WIFI server . The internet service is probably fed to this server via coax or maybe fibre.

Broadband internet service can be provided via your TV coax yes... but requires a multiplexer modem ( another black box) to access the internet bandwidth of the ISP. Common in most countries... know nothing about Thailand service offerings to multi dwellings. From what I have seen broadband internet is fed through separate coax.

If you have a landline (wired) telephone you may be able to get DSL service via modem (another black box ).

When next your internet is up you could possibly Google with WIFI ,broadband and internet as key words?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

We dont want you to be able to post more.

You probably should not look forward to a day in the future when my comments will become any more lucid than they are now.

I am doing my best and am at the peak of my posting powers.

I don't suggest it, but you can try watching TV as you read what i write and this may help some.
Or, I meant, obviously, you can watch the tube, read TV, and read what I write on a 3rd screen, which is what I do, as I write.

Still,, I must warn you that this IS a serious thread, and my network here is being managed by people who know nothing about the Linux OS, or Fedora, and who carry around the basic "learn Linux" self-help books in their university book bags, even as they come here to service the server and access points in the buildings, which are not working.

There MUST be a better way, and I think I may need to visit one of the major local ISPs, bearing gifts, to find out what exactly is on offer to solve the many problems here.

There must be a better way, BUT I don't know anyone around there who is satisfied with their internet service. This is the worst can of worms internet in South East Asia, perhaps.

Hardly "URGENT". There are posts on here every day about shitty internet connections. Welcome to Thailand and the third world.

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

I am not trying to find a solution for myself.

What's it all about then?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

I am not trying to find a solution for myself.

What's it all about then?

The attention whore's need to start a bunch of stupid threads every day would be my guess.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

I am not trying to find a solution for myself.

What's it all about then?

The attention whore's need to start a bunch of stupid threads every day would be my guess.

Perhaps he's lonely.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

I am not trying to find a solution for myself.

What's it all about then?

The attention whore's need to start a bunch of stupid threads every day would be my guess.

My guess would be a very unstable internet network and very little solid expertise to fix it. There must be better knowledge here though, if someone would deign to impart it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

I am not trying to find a solution for myself.

What's it all about then?

The attention whore's need to start a bunch of stupid threads every day would be my guess.

Perhaps he's lonely.

Get a dog. They'll listen to mindless babbling all day long if you feed them.

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

then I could just make a few suggestions to the management,

so you want to use the co-ax that is feeding the thai soap operas to all those televisions and instead use it for empornium torrents ?

brave vision , but it will end in tears

I suppose a number of torrent and other p2p sites could be blocked without heavy duty servers.

Or do you need to spend USD thousands just to keep the network free from the few who would abuse their privileges?

Have you tried putting up a sign saying any nigerians or farang doing illegal downloads will be reported to immigration - seems the bog standard response in many of these joints

Originally Posted by kingwilly

We dont want you to be able to post more.

Who is this 'we'? Is it the royal 'we' Willy..?
His posts are far more entertaining than the depressing drivel you churn out.

Free CanInSpam..!

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by kingwilly

We dont want you to be able to post more.

Who is this 'we'? Is it the royal 'we' Willy..?
His posts are far more entertaining than the depressing drivel you churn out.

Free CanInSpam..!

Or the 'jelly' Willy?, were you thinking?

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by kingwilly

We dont want you to be able to post more.

Who is this 'we'? Is it the royal 'we' Willy..?
His posts are far more entertaining than the depressing drivel you churn out.

Free CanInSpam..!

If you call that entertaining you must be somewhat starved of entertainment.

Normally, in every prisoner of war camp worth its salt, the inmates need to provide their own entertainment. Right now, there is some huge bird above my head flapping its wings in a tree.

I have never heard a birds make so much noise.
This is exactly the type of entertainment which most easily keeps me amused.
I could take a video for you, but it would not be the same I am afraid.

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

Normally, in every prisoner of war camp worth its salt, the inmates need to provide their own entertainment.

you were educated by hollywood and your posts display this across the board

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

Normally, in every prisoner of war camp worth its salt, the inmates need to provide their own entertainment.

Does it include cross-dressing?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by SpamInCan

Normally, in every prisoner of war camp worth its salt, the inmates need to provide their own entertainment.

Does it include cross-dressing?

Absolutely! In every prisoner of war camp there must be cross-dressing if there is to be any entertainment worth its salt.

Here where I am there may be cross dressing even, but there is no good management of the network.

I think that most of the internet IT people are too busy worrying about what each other are wearing, and cross-dressing, to be suitably devoted to properly maintaining the network here.

I may need to report them to the local Linux organization so that they can be suitably tested to establish their level of competency, is my thinking.