Thread: Windows 8

Originally Posted by Neo

it looks fine, then you realise your touch pad scroll doesn't work or something similar, you search for a driver on the net and don't find solutions, only forums with posts by people looking for the same thing.

This kind of generalisation is what causes the problem. Why don't you post a more specific question about how to get your hardware working.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Not for many. I can't even get away with using a Mac for some of the compatibility issues between Win & Mac versions of supposedly the same software.

What software?

The thing with Ubuntu/Linux is driver compatibility..

That's true to an extent but I've never had a problem which couldn't be solved. It just depends how much energy you want to put into finding solutions/learning about how things work but it's certainly not something which everyone is going to want to do.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

What software?

PowerPoint mainly.

get a nice high spec and high power netbook with hdmi, and buy a nice high spec touchscreen monitor, thats the way forward for me, i have 3 nice e series phillips touchscreen monitors for sale if anyone wants one

Originally Posted by sunsetter

i have 3 nice e series phillips touchscreen monitors for sale if anyone wants one

No thanks. I don't need a toy.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

PowerPoint mainly.

The problem isn't necessarily between PP Mac and PP Win, PP has compatibility probs even between closely related versions of Windows. Ever wonder why the print dialogue boxes of MS Office components all looked different?

Originally Posted by sunsetter

get a nice high spec and high power netbook with hdmi, and buy a nice high spec touchscreen monitor

This is the bit I don't get about the Win 8 UI. My monitors are longer than an arm's reach away yet I can click on stuff by moving my mouse a few inches and still have a hand free to shift-click or whatever on my keyboard. I can see absolutely zero benefit of switching to a touchscreen based UI on the desktop or even a laptop.

^ Perhaps the days of the desktop and laptop are limited?
Destined for the technology graveyard except for a few museum pieces.

Back when Microsoft was the darling of the stock market and technology world, their flagship product Windows (95/ 98 etc) was basically crap- it consumed far too much of a computers resources for a mere interface, and was prone to regular (and bloody annoying) freezing. Now they've finally got it right in a product sense with Windows 7, the companies stock price has been languishing for the better part of a decade, and I believe Apple now doubles it in market cap.

My new puter runs Windows 7 Home pro, and I reckon it's by far the best Windows yet- in terms of both user friendliness and reliability. So just when they've finally got it right, they're gonna change the formula. Typical. I can't help feeling Apple will go the way of MS- it's stock price & financial ratio's are way too high for a company that sells currently fashionable gadgets with a proprietary operating system that is under threat from constantly improving open source software. If I owned a Hedge fund, I would have a long term short on it.

I miss Arry,

he would have been in his element about now. I would have had good fun how Windows is desparetely trying to emulate the industry leaders.......MAC!!!!

God when all said and done they are only machines.....that rule and sometimes ruin our lives.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

I just read, that Microsoft will offer the Pro version of Windows 8 for 30€. That is an offer that will be valid until January next year and is for a downloaded version. At that price I may buy two for the wifes computer and mine. No more problems when I need to fix something on her computer.

But first I will try the free preview.

Edit: It was said, after that initial offer expires, the price would be 280€ for the pro version. Those prices were given at a Microsoft presentation here in Berlin today.

This offer looks to be an upgrade to win 8 not a full copy of win 8 so you need a legit copy of win 7 to upgrade from.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

The thing with Ubuntu/Linux is driver compatibility..

That's true to an extent but I've never had a problem which couldn't be solved. It just depends how much energy you want to put into finding solutions/learning about how things work but it's certainly not something which everyone is going to want to do.

But that's the problem, why should I spend hours and hours learning how some piece of crap software works, do I need to understand how a TV works when I turn it on? Or an engine when I switch the ignition? They're tools, supposed to do a job with minimal fuss.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

But that's the problem, why should I spend hours and hours learning how some piece of crap software works

You miss the point. You are blaming GNU/Linux devs when the blame actually lies with the hardware makers who don't release device drivers that are compatible with the GPL or even the LGPL.

I must dig a bit deeper on that upgrade option. On the Microsoft site it says upgrade from XP SP3.

That would mean only from very late versions. Unless it means one has to install SP3 before upgrading. But that seems to make no sense. So no joy for me with upgrading.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The problem with situations like this is the customer having to learn new ways of doing the same thing.

If so, the consumer probably thinks "might as well switch platforms if I have to relearn" and buys a Mac.



4 minutes 11 seconds is the money moment!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Can you imagine an open plan office full of people telling their computer what to do?

Better than a world in which computers tell people what to do.

I got it now from a Microsoft support forum. You can upgrade from any XP system, provided you have installed SP3, no matter if it is on the install disk or loaded by update.

But no software will be retained. After upgrading it is a clean newly installed system. Software will only be retained if you upgrade from WIN 7.

So everybody who has an XP in the drawer or installed can get WIN 8 pro at the equivalent of 30€ until end of january 2013. But it needs to be installed and registered with Microsoft by that date.

There is a Thai language version available too.

^ that's basically the core of it, the majority of people and businesses don't care about the OS, and why should they ? if it works, it works

only boring old farts and bored teenagers like Harry with nothing better to do than test a new OS to fill their empty lives, since they don't do anything useful with their PC

If you have a running WinXP, why would you even consider upgrading, pay twice the license, for something that will not improve and do new things for you.

Win7 Upgrade == Win 8 Upgrade == itard crowd waiting lines == clueless users red flags

Originally Posted by Takeovers

I must dig a bit deeper on that upgrade option. On the Microsoft site it says upgrade from XP SP3.

That would mean only from very late versions. Unless it means one has to install SP3 before upgrading. But that seems to make no sense. So no joy for me with upgrading.

jesus, you aren't too PC smart, are you ? how upgrading to SP3 so difficult ?

also ask yourself (you probably didn't) why you need to upgrade ? is it because it's cheap ? do you realize you already pay a license once ?

it's quite interesting to see the buying logic of the average clueless user, between Apple and MS, it seems to be an easy business to "trick" your customers.

Had a play with it, eats a bag full of dicks without a touchscreen even worse is the bluetooth and wifi on my PC are not compatible.

Back to win 7.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Had a play with it, eats a bag full of dicks without a touchscreen even worse is the bluetooth and wifi on my PC are not compatible.

Back to win 7.

I will see. If I don't like it I still can buy a WIN 7 for my wife. The price for a system builder Home Premium version is now down to 40€. Slightly more for the Pro.