New Macbooks not user-upgradable any more...

**Carrabow** · 11-07-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Have you ever tried to explain "grounding" to an "electrician" in Thailand? ;-)

is that like explaining "good computer" to a Mac fan ?

I figured you would put in your 2 cents....

Water Heaters await for you

**Cthulhu** · 11-07-2012, 11:43 AM

Honestly, the major question really becomes what kind of screen size would you like, but from looking at your needs, an 11" to 13" MacBook Air seems to be the best solution for you - make sure you get it with a 256GB flash drive, and you're set.

You can get the 11" model, 2.0GHz core i7, with 8GB of RAM and 256GB Flash storage, for$1,650.

or you can get the 13" model, 2.0GHz core i7, with 8GB of RAM and 256GB Flash storage, for $1,700.

Yeah, not much of a price difference, just pick the size you want, and you're well under your budget.

I feel the MacBook Air would be the better choice, because of its design that emphasizes the lack of moving parts (ie no hard drive, but flash drives), and lighter overall package.

Combine with a pelican water tight case to store in and you're good.

Pelican | HardBack | Fit Guide

For 12V power use or re-charging, you can use Apple's power adapter:

Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter - Apple Store (U.S.)

**Cthulhu** · 11-07-2012, 11:46 AM

While the iPad is nifty, and while it DOES support iMovie to edit movies (and it does it really well), you might feel more comfortable with a larger screen.

I would just suggest heading to an iStore or equivalent, and checking out the Macbook Air 11.6" and 13.3" as well as the iPad, and see how you react to them.

If you're jonesing for a 15" Macbook, then the new Retina display version would be what I suggest, simply because it has gotten rid of the hard drives in favor of flash drives.

Configure - Apple Store (U.S.)

It starts at around $2,200, though, so would exceed your budget.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-07-2012, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Serious question. So Harry be on your best behavior!

As some of you might know, I went reluctantly to the darkside because of work 4 years ago. Now after 4 years no crashes, locked up thingies, and having to feel like a Moron when I g to the tech types.......I like them. They work do the stuff I need doing and do it nicely and with no fuss.

So I like using, not figuring out how to use.
Now 4 years away from PC tech is along time. In my world no one mentions PC since everyone including the kids use Macs. As I have also said I am not married to Mr Apple. Want something that works well in a hot marine environment.

But! This Baby will be mine. Deal through work but mine to keep.

Uses

Talking to you losers!

Video home video stuff (imovie level)
Pics etc

Running marine Navigational programes
Connecting to Single Side Band Radio
Connecting to WIN FAX

PC would be looking at Toshiba or Sony or MAinstream.

I am not good at mechanicing stuff, I actually have forgotten much about windows gotten used to just using.

Also would like to recharge using DC (12 volt) (which should be at about 15 when batteries are fully charged) Battery life between refills.

Need to make a decision this month or I loose the dosh. Any relevant ideas

Cheers for any suggestions, that I can show my mam, and Harry's for that matter

If a "hot marine environment" means you're the dance director on a cruise ship, then stick to what you know. If it ain't fucked, don't fix it.

If however, you mean sweaty, hot and dirty, then I'd look at something with an IP rating.

New Panasonic Toughbooks, Refurbished Toughbooks & Rugged Notebooks Now Shipping

(Of course, "sweaty, hot and dirty" may still apply in the cruise ship environment).

**Butterfly** · 11-07-2012, 04:15 PM

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fucking hot !!! at least it doesn't look like a fucking Tampad,

**harrybarracuda** · 11-07-2012, 04:33 PM

No, but they have one of those, too.

**misskit** · 11-07-2012, 05:19 PM

^Too many buttons. Too confusing.

**Cthulhu** · 11-07-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

^Too many buttons. Too confusing.

Deserves a green!

**harrybarracuda** · 11-07-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

^Too many buttons. Too confusing.

**Sailing into trouble** · 12-07-2012, 02:58 AM

HArry,

I was looking at this model, but its like buying a Mazda! I have no idea what I need from this list? Any help?

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6 months on battery warranty does not fill me will confidence but at least I can change, if I buy a spare. That the new macs have a welded in battery is not good for someone who is not going to be near a service centre, also I can not carry a spare.

**Cthulhu** · 12-07-2012, 04:15 AM

^ it's not "welded in".

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 11:20 AM

it's always hilarious to see clueless users trying to make sense of the specs and think they can optimize that deal instead of focusing on their needs

like buying an i5 machine for your grandmother, because the specs are "cool"

just look at the screen factor and the price, that's all there is to look at these days.

**harrybarracuda** · 12-07-2012, 11:47 AM

^ And, because Buttplug doesn't understand PCs, the RAM.

email them and ask them what you can get for $2K and post the options here.

**Carrabow** · 12-07-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it's always hilarious to see clueless users trying to make sense of the specs and think they can optimize that deal instead of focusing on their needs

like buying an i5 machine for your grandmother, because the specs are "cool"

just look at the screen factor and the price, that's all there is to look at these days.

BF, when are you going to realize that the computer you bought the other day is now outdated?

The phone in your hand is in the same boat.

Are you that retarded?

**Cthulhu** · 12-07-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Are you that retarded?

Do you need me to answer that? Really?

**harrybarracuda** · 12-07-2012, 12:19 PM

Surely a rhetorical question.

**Carrabow** · 12-07-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Surely a rhetorical question.

It is a fact his pocket book can not keep up with.

**Cthulhu** · 12-07-2012, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Carrabow

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Surely a rhetorical question.

It is a fact his pocket book can not keep up with.

.... or his ass, when confronted by a ceiling tile...

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

^ And, because Buttplug doesn't understand PCs, the RAM.

I know your job is to buy hardware based solely on your available budget to justify your work,

but who needs more than 1GB Ram to do basic surfing shit, email, office and a few apps ? since all those PCs come with more than 1Gb by default, it's hardly a question to ask yourself

so to recap, all you need to know is the color, screen size and price, and of course, not least, the "cool" factor

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Carrabow

BF, when are you going to realize that the computer you bought the other day is now outdated?

The phone in your hand is in the same boat.

not sure what is your point, since by default they are all outdated within a few months,

are you Quack Quack retarded by any chance ? that's why you need the "cool" factor in any PC, it's the only thing that matters

having high specs is no longer "cool", you need colors, screen size and "shapes" like that Air mac

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 01:17 PM

squealing about having an i5 or an i7 is like bragging about having the latest VIO with the 1600cc engine instead of the default 1400cc

it's hilarious

**harrybarracuda** · 12-07-2012, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

^ And, because Buttplug doesn't understand PCs, the RAM.

I know your job is to buy hardware based solely on your available budget to justify your work,

but who needs more than 1GB Ram to do basic surfing shit, email, office and a few apps ? since all those PCs all come with more than 1Gb by default, it's hardly a question to ask yourself

so to recap, all you need to know is the color, screen size and price, and of course, not least, the "cool" factor

Butters, stick to onanism and fellatio, no-one can match your talents in those arenas.

Because when it comes to Windows, you sure do talk out of your well-worn arse.

**Carrabow** · 12-07-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Carrabow

BF, when are you going to realize that the computer you bought the other day is now outdated?

The phone in your hand is in the same boat.

not sure what is your point, since by default they are all outdated within a few months,

are you Quack Quack retarded by any chance ? that's why you need the "cool" factor in any PC, it's the only thing that matters

having high specs is no longer "cool", you need colors, screen size and "shapes" like that Air mac

BF,

Are you ADD?

Please, tell us something worth listening too. Colors? Shapes? You sound like a retarded kid where you you have to shove blocks in a hole. The only problem is you can not figure it out

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Because when it comes to Windows, you sure do talk out of your well-worn arse.

you know Windows ? sure you do but as a cleaning up guru, isn't what maids do ?

**Butterfly** · 12-07-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Carrabow

BF,

Are you ADD?

why are you constantly looking for my attention, told you, I don't know you and I don't date strangers on the Internet

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