Thread: New Macbooks not user-upgradable any more...

And ironically the mighty Facebook is taking it up the arse because it can't work out how to keep customers who use it primarily on mobiles, and who will probably get pissed off very quickly if they start filling the screen with ads.

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

When someone builds a better same as apple I will buy that.

Fully agree - ditto!

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

PamAm used to be an Airline

I wish they still were.

you know I think i might have been a little bit unkind about the build quality of macbook pro's.

I have just returned uninjured from an inverse na Ayutthaya. in as much as the car I was in was rear ended in the passenger corner, we were doing about 110km/hr and we recon, as did the insurance gent, that after breaking he hit us at about 140-150km/hr.

better half did an amazing job of turning into the spin and not using the breaks until we were travelling straight down the express way. which is why I think we didn't start rolling and why we are still alive spite this monkeys best attempts to kill us.

My macbookpro was in a rucksack in the boot, a bit of the boot that is now 40-50cm shorter than it should be. it got a hell of a bang and is still to everyone suprise fully operational.... unlike the car.

what is it about these monkeys they get to drive minibuses

Damn, glad you're ok. Giving monkeys the keys to cars... bad ideas.

Get the hard drive replaced, ASAP. Back it up to an external and swap it out. It's the only moving part that can be affected, with a delayed action, by this kind of trauma.

Not necessary I have a mirrored ssd and hd and everything on the hd is disposable. Given the age of the thing and its general reliability pre impact... maintenance would be good money after bad. Time for an upgrade this year

Originally Posted by hazz

Not necessary I have a mirrored ssd and hd and everything on the hd is disposable. Given the age of the thing and its general reliability pre impact... maintenance would be good money after bad. Time for an upgrade this year

Fair enough - I only wanted to provide cautious advice, based on the incident.

What do you intend to upgrade to?

A Volvo I would imagine.

^Not sure. better half is very practically minded, but in her heart she wants a hybrid suberu that goes like a bat out of hell.... not sure if they make one yet, but she also likes the practicalities of owning a toyota so I have no idea. to be honest we will probably use the repaired toyota for a while until she can buy the car of her dreams.

As for the laptop. if the new macs had a dvd drive bay, so I could have two hd I would be buying one of them.
So I will probably be looking for a 15" or 17" laptop that can be fitted with an affordable ssd and a hard disk, 16G ram... and a full HD screen. Not sure who's msi have some interesting models, perhaps Asus, thinkpad or samsung.... not given it much thought yet

The current, ie new, Macbook Pros do still ship with HD and DVD drives. The new Retina model is the one that only has a very fast SSD. Probably just a matter of going to a store and playing with it.

given the size of the storage I need, the price for the retina laptop is simply far to high for what I value in the package. its nice but insultingly poor value for money. As for the other models they are selling, they are not really anything special and don't offer me more than what I would get from other manufactures. With the cases being larger, I would also expect to have less thermal problems running at 100% CPU in an environment at 30-33C ambant.

The ambient temperatures in tropical countries like Thailand certainly are a concern. That's kinda why I prefer the aluminium enclosures.

Of course, with the lack of grounding in nearly 90% of all "grounded" plugs in Thailand, you do get the added benefit of the pleasant tingling whenever you are plugged in, on your palm and any part of the skin that contacts the metal.

most of the tingling is not from the PSU its from the wifi and bluetooth. rf coupling. turn them off and the problem goes away.

I would be more concerned about the effectiveness of the rear crumple zone if I were you.

Originally Posted by hazz

most of the tingling is not from the PSU its from the wifi and bluetooth. rf coupling. turn them off and the problem goes away.

Oh kryst... (rolls eyes)

It's from lack of grounding. Trust me on that.

Plug it into a grounded outlet - no tingling.

Plug it into an ungrounded outlet - tingling. (or rather, grounding short).

This was done on the exact same outlet, the only difference was that I ended up grounding the circuit in the hotel room between tests...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I would be more concerned about the effectiveness of the rear crumple zone if I were you.

Did you have to bring up butterfly?

I said crumple not crumpled.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I would be more concerned about the effectiveness of the rear crumple zone if I were you.

True. but about 4 years ago we got a new boot welded on the back of the car after some monkey decided to fly over the bridge by the siam discovery centre, only to discover just out view on the other side there was a queue of traffic waiting for the lights. Domed the two cars behind us and shorted our boot by 30 cm, How the hell anyone can get to those kind of speeds in central bangkok I have no idea. she got out unscathed because of her airbag..... more the pitty.

So its going to be repeat work and we know their works good, given we have just had it crash tested

Originally Posted by kathulu

It's from lack of grounding. Trust me on that.
Plug it into a grounded outlet - no tingling.
Plug it into an ungrounded outlet - tingling. (or rather, grounding short).

quite a lot of the time the problem is created by the case coupling with the rf aerials, grounding the case deal will this, but in the absence of grounding shutting down all the RF transmitters will prevent the problem from occurring in the first place. Then there is the issue of exposing the body to ultra low frequency radiation, something enhanced by the ungrounded case, its a known cancer risk.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I said crumple not crumpled.

You said "rear"

Originally Posted by hazz

quite a lot of the time the problem is created by the case coupling with the rf aerials, grounding the case deal will this, but in the absence of grounding shutting down all the RF transmitters will prevent the problem from occurring in the first place. Then there is the issue of exposing the body to ultra low frequency radiation, something enhanced by the ungrounded case, its a known cancer risk.

The ULF radiation issue is really only at issue if you keep your body pressed against the emitters for insane amounts of time, by the way.

This is good advice - thank you. Grounding is, nevertheless, a continuing issue in Thailand, or rather, the lack thereof.

Surprised not more people die.

^like when you spend hours typing away with you wrists resting on an ungrounded metal case that is coupled to the wifi and bluetooth transmitters continually pumping sub ULF rf into your body?

Grounding is easy to retro. copper rod and green wire

Originally Posted by hazz

Grounding is easy to retro. copper rod and green wire

Which is what I basically did. There's a dozen hotel rooms in BKK now that are probably the only grounded rooms in those hotels.... if not BKK ;-)

Green wire to steel trussing or green wire to conduit to external steel structure.

Not perfect, but it did the trick for that purpose.

Have you ever tried to explain "grounding" to an "electrician" in Thailand? ;-)

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Have you ever tried to explain "grounding" to an "electrician" in Thailand? ;-)

is that like explaining "good computer" to a Mac fan ?

I bet Cthulu talks really quickly in real life.

Serious question. So Harry be on your best behavior!

As some of you might know, I went reluctantly to the darkside because of work 4 years ago. Now after 4 years no crashes, locked up thingies, and having to feel like a Moron when I g to the tech types.......I like them. They work do the stuff I need doing and do it nicely and with no fuss.

So I like using, not figuring out how to use.
Now 4 years away from PC tech is along time. In my world no one mentions PC since everyone including the kids use Macs. As I have also said I am not married to Mr Apple. Want something that works well in a hot marine environment.

But! This Baby will be mine. Deal through work but mine to keep.

Uses


Talking to you losers!

Video home video stuff (imovie level)
Pics etc

Running marine Navigational programes
Connecting to Single Side Band Radio
Connecting to WIN FAX

PC would be looking at Toshiba or Sony or MAinstream.

I am not good at mechanicing stuff, I actually have forgotten much about windows gotten used to just using.

Also would like to recharge using DC (12 volt) (which should be at about 15 when batteries are fully charged) Battery life between refills.

Need to make a decision this month or I loose the dosh. Any relevant ideas

Cheers for any suggestions, that I can show my mam, and Harry's for that matter