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    I don't understand the American way of getting close. America bombed the country and anyone with a turban on his head killed was considered taliban. I wonder what would the kid whose father was killed by the american bombings would feel when a soldier walks to him and says " Hey kiddo! I can't help bring your father back but this football might help and see we have printed your God and Prophet's name on it."

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    ^What rubbish! It's a soccer ball. Kids would like to just play ball and not worry about fanatic Islamic clerics and their misguided oversensitivity.
    Lighten up! Or do you really want to empathize with Taliban fanatics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    ^What rubbish! It's a soccer ball... Lighten up! Or do you really want to empathize with Taliban fanatics?
    Occurs to me it's exactly this type of American 'thinking' that causes these problems in the first place.

    Funny how any voicing an objection automatically places you in league with "Taliban fanatics".

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    ^ what problem do you have with kids playing soccer/football?
    Oh that's right the evil Americans provided the balls!
    Many flags were depicted on the balls. Absolutely no offense towards Islam was intended!
    But our Islamic fanatics will manufacture offense at any given opportunity.
    I know you're just a Kiwi and not high on their list of infidels. I guarantee you you are on the list.

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    What I REALLY MEAN IS WHAT KIND OF MORON DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO TAKE OFFENSE FROM A FUCKING SOCCER BALL?????????

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    How's about the Saudis send a million footballs covered in Bible verses to American children? That should balance things out and make everybody happy.

    I've always been grateful that so many cheap Bibles are printed on toilet paper, that's come in very handy in low-rent hotels all over the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    How's about the Saudis send a million footballs covered in Bible verses to American children? That should balance things out and make everybody happy
    It is a certainty the American kids wouldn't give a monkeys what was printed on them & just get on with kicking them around & enjoying them. The biggest disappointment would be that they weren't made by Nike, or something.

    Those Saudis wouldn't know a friendly gesture if it kicked them in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    How's about the Saudis send a million footballs covered in Bible verses to American children? That should balance things out and make everybody happy.

    I've always been grateful that so many cheap Bibles are printed on toilet paper, that's come in very handy in low-rent hotels all over the world.
    When I wasw a lad I skinned up a spliff with a page from a Gideons bible. Those leafy pages work quite well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    What I REALLY MEAN IS WHAT KIND OF MORON DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO TAKE OFFENSE FROM A FUCKING SOCCER BALL?????????
    I would agree with you that there is a pattern of Muslims throwing a hissy fit for the slightest reason , IF YOU'D STOP SHOUTING THAT IS !


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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog
    When I wasw a lad I skinned up a spliff with a page from a Gideons bible. Those leafy pages work quite well
    Worked for me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_dog
    When I wasw a lad I skinned up a spliff with a page from a Gideons bible. Those leafy pages work quite well
    Worked for me too.
    And me.

    God bless the Gideons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    What I REALLY MEAN IS WHAT KIND OF MORON DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO TAKE OFFENSE FROM A FUCKING SOCCER BALL?????????

    Pipe(bomb) down!

    in olden days in the west, and still current in many of the nations where families are far more cohesive than our lot, it would be customary that if you killed a father, you would have to kill the kids also. For one day they will grow up with vengeance in their hearts.

    No Mafia don has ever satiated an orphaned kid with a football.

    NB: I don't condone this. I'm just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    ^ what problem do you have with kids playing soccer/football?
    No, not at all (well excepting they'd be better off with rugby balls instead of those namby-pamby things). That's why I didn't even so much as hint at anything remotely like saying that.

    What problem do you have with reading comprehension?

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    ^I know you're just saying Americans are idiots about world and cultural issues. But that's been a well established fact long before either one of us were born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    ^It's a forking soccer ball. And certain Muslims will get their panties in a knot at the slightest pretext. It's a never ending circle.
    I agree with you there, some of the Islamic community throw a fit too easily. Then again, the western media always plays up the ravings of the fanaticists, whereas the moderate majority gets next to no airplay outside of academic circles.
    Most of the kids for whom they were intended would be just happy to have a ball to kick around.

    As I said before, nice gesture but given the realities of todays world, a little hamfisted in the execution. I think most Moslems would say the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I agree with you there, some of the Islamic community throw a fit too easily. Then again, the western media always plays up the ravings of the fanaticists, whereas the moderate majority gets next to no airplay outside of academic circles. Most of the kids for whom they were intended would be just happy to have a ball to kick around. As I said before, nice gesture but given the realities of todays world, a little hamfisted in the execution. I think most Moslems would say the same.
    Wot 'e said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Then again, the western media always plays up the ravings of the fanaticists,
    and just look at the OP........keda's 'swarm' of nearly 100.


    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    nice gesture but given the realities of todays world, a little hamfisted in the execution. I think most Moslems would say the same.
    precisely.

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    What pisses me off as an American,is that my country gives things away.I wish that it wouldn't give anything away,to any countries.If you want to give,give to your own people.Let the rest take care of themselves.
    Send those balls back to the states,lots of kids would like to kick them around.Insulting someone won't even cross their minds.Their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    ^I know you're just saying Americans are idiots about world and cultural issues. But that's been a well established fact long before either one of us were born.
    Err, well funnily enough yeah. That's what I was saying.

    So if you knew that, what's with your changing the issue then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathairCeann View Post
    I personally find it tragic that the American people fuck up so much in the international arena when the truth is they are an exceptionally generous nation.
    Oh yes very altruistic... footballs, cluster bombs, depleted uranium munitions, sanctions, death squads, WWIII...

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    Has anybody ever seen a gideon? Maybe woke in the night to find one in the act of placing the good book? I imagine them as small hobbit sized winged goblin creatures that hover 6 inches above the ground while surreptitiously sliding open the drawer on the bedside table. Pausing to look in puzzlement at the cellophane wrapped remote control before depositing the sacred tome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    ^I know you're just saying Americans are idiots about world and cultural issues. But that's been a well established fact long before either one of us were born.
    Err, well funnily enough yeah. That's what I was saying.

    So if you knew that, what's with your changing the issue then?
    See the issue isn't American clumsy cultural knowledge.(that's been a given for many decades) The issue is about how Islamic fanatics look for the slightest pretext to go bananas!
    Under the Ottoman empire Jews enjoyed a certain amount of protection.
    After the fall of the Ottoman empire and the establishment of Israel this hypersensitive faction of Islam has spread its roots.
    This is really the core issue.
    The existence of Israel presents a threat to the fundamental Islamist.
    Even though Israel has never initiated any invasion against Islam.
    Israel is a direct result of Arab aggression against the Jews.
    If you think Jews should be annihilated then I can understand where you're coming from.
    I don't really like Israelis but I certainly don't deny their right to exist.
    If you honestly look at the history of the ME you will share the same opinion.
    But if you look at the world though "Anti-American" glasses then it follows you empathize with suicide terrorists.

    The current American government is a heinous perversion of the original intent of the founding fathers. It is still better than any of the alternatives out there.

    Oh yea you're in jail and can't respond. Tough tit amigo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robski View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NathairCeann View Post
    I personally find it tragic that the American people fuck up so much in the international arena when the truth is they are an exceptionally generous nation.
    Oh yes very altruistic... footballs, cluster bombs, depleted uranium munitions, sanctions, death squads, WWIII...
    WWIII. Maybe you'll help us out with this one, like we helped you.

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    [quote=sabang;381420]
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post

    I agree with you there, some of the Islamic community throw a fit too easily. Then again, the western media always plays up the ravings of the fanaticists, whereas the moderate majority gets next to no airplay outside of academic circles. .
    As i recall from the BBC report there were 100 people at the rally/demo. Why was a gathering of 100 people a headline on BBC NEWS 24 for a day ? It seems to me that the media are constantly searching for Muslim "issues" to pander to an ill informed public. Catholicism and Islam have a similar number of followers if there was a constant media gaze on that group of 1 billion people I am sure you could find a crazy pope lover contraversy everyday too. The public dance to the media and the song is played by a fiddle...
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Robski View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NathairCeann View Post
    I personally find it tragic that the American people fuck up so much in the international arena when the truth is they are an exceptionally generous nation.
    Oh yes very altruistic... footballs, cluster bombs, depleted uranium munitions, sanctions, death squads, WWIII...
    WWIII. Maybe you'll help us out with this one, like we helped you.
    Sure it's simple really, the US has started a war in the Middle East that it cannot win conclusively. (that has been well debated in many threads, what is the death toll now 1 million? but..)
    It has polarised the entire population of the world (at least those that give a shit) derailed positive political progress in the world, and turned many places in the whole world into real and potential flashpoints, you notice my mention of the world in those statements..
    There is not going to be a sudden worldwide outbreak of peace, in fact it looks like things might get worse on worldwide scale for a very long time to come....
    It is a war and it is a worldwide issue, the nature of war changes, from WW1 to WW2 and now to WW3.

    What would constitute a world war to you may I ask, ze Germans invading France again!?

    As for the comment, like we helped you, I assume you mean the reason the US entered the war in Europe and is a very debatable subject of it's own.

    Anyway regarding the OP, I don't have any sympathy for militant Islamists, but I have even less for a nation that blows the shit out of another country, creates death, chaos and fear, then thinks it might help to passify the kids with footballs and wonders what everyones problem is.

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