Thread: Why Obama will Win

What percentage of the US is in the Miltary then?
I thought U had more folks in jail.

Using state-by-state data, the report says 2,319,258 Americans were in jail or prison at the start of 2008 - one out of every 99.1 adults.

1 in 100 Americans serving jail or prison time, new report finds

Originally Posted by sabang

What percentage of the US is in the Miltary then? I thought U had more folks in jail.

yes, the jail vote .......... even more Obama support

McCain is a retired Navy captain. That earns him a few points among the military folks. Regardless of year or candidates or platforms or issues, the military leans generally toward conservative republican for one main reason.

Historically, GOP presidents give higher pay raises than Democrats.

^Didn't Bush also make several cuts in pay rates? I vaugely recall hearing something along those lines.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Didn't Bush also make several cuts in pay rates? I vaugely recall hearing something along those lines.

I don't think so. I would doubt it. Pay raises were pretty much a rubber stamp for the last several years. You could be thinking about veterans care. Even with that I don't think there was any significant cut backs but would have to do a little "fact" finding. Except for the objection to the 2008 pay raise, (mentioned above) which may have some merit, Bush has been pretty good to the military.

^Yes you're right sorry, I remember now is was not pay rates but benefits of some description.

Originally Posted by Lorenzo

Originally Posted by sabang

What percentage of the US is in the Miltary then? I thought U had more folks in jail.

yes, the jail vote .......... even more Obama support

You can't vote if you are in jail...

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Military vote goes to the Republicans by a wide margin.

The polling data is saying otherwise. Especially after the recent issues with the GOP and the military.

What polling data have you seen, Brits. Go check it out.

Britmaveric has never checked facts before giving everyone his opinion. I don't see why he would start doing so on this topic...

And a conviction for many crimes carry with it the loss of voting privileges.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

And a conviction for many crimes carry with it the loss of voting privileges.

Only felonies, I believe. Convicted felons cannot vote in elections.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Didn't Bush also make several cuts in pay rates? I vaugely recall hearing something along those lines.

I don't think so. I would doubt it. Pay raises were pretty much a rubber stamp for the last several years. You could be thinking about veterans care. Even with that I don't think there was any significant cut backs but would have to do a little "fact" finding. Except for the objection to the 2008 pay raise, (mentioned above) which may have some merit, Bush has been pretty good to the military.

The problem is the chickenshit Congress makes appropriations to programs mandatory so they can shirk the responsibility of hammering out a budget. The military is one of the few places where discretionary cuts can be made so the troops suffer.

^ Travesty of justice, IMO.

^Why is that?

Sentence served, no?

^ WTF? You want a person convicted of rape, child molesting/rape/murder to have a vote? Ya, that's the lefty way. They can be rehabilitated. Maybe a few, but not many.
Forget it. Shoot 'em and let them come back as cockroaches in a Thai takeaway stall. Squish.

Next they'll be campaigning to let Isaani villagers keep the vote.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ya, that's the lefty way.

bkkandrew is a 'lefty'?

BO talks about his Muslim Faith...heh

Little Green Footballs - Obama: 'My Muslim Faith'

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ WTF? You want a person convicted of rape, child molesting/rape/murder to have a vote? Ya, that's the lefty way. They can be rehabilitated. Maybe a few, but not many.
Forget it. Shoot 'em and let them come back as cockroaches in a Thai takeaway stall. Squish.

OK Jet, as a matter in interest, can you answer which crimes you would consider that the offender is unable to be rehabilitated, or not sufficiently punished by whatever was meted out by the Courts, to not warrent being able to take part in the democratic process:

1. Murder;
2. Rape;
3. Arsen;
4. Assault;
5. Illegal possession of a firearm;
6. Fly Tipping;
7. Graffiti;
8. Vandalism;
9. Drink Driving;
10. Possession of cannabis.

Thank you. As an addition, if you would like to suggest which of the above crimes are worthy of the shooting option you suggested, could you indicate that next the corresponding number also.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

BO talks about his Muslim Faith...heh

Little Green Footballs - Obama: 'My Muslim Faith'

Uh oh. How could he slip up like that when the Dems say he is soooo much more intelligent than McC? I think Obama's interview with O'Reilly shook him up -- did you notice how many times Obama slapped O'Reilly's knee during that show? "C'mon, you know..blah blah" That's a physical move you use when you know your reasoning is imperfect and you need to add a bit of body contact for the palsy walsy effect, kinda like used car salesmen when they try to sell you a lemon.

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

OK Jet, as a matter in interest, can you answer which crimes you would consider that the offender is unable to be rehabilitated, or not sufficiently punished by whatever was meted out by the Courts, to not warrent being able to take part in the democratic process:

^ Sorry, BA, should have clarified.
Any felony. If you choose to commit a serious offence, then I believe your voting rights should be rescinded. Misdemeanours -- well, a US president can be impeached for misdemeanours. Although in Clinton's case, I wouldn't say obstruction of justice, perjury and abuse of office were misdemeanours. The Dem senators got him off anyway.

^So would it be OK to peruse the list of crimes and adjudicate thus. I am interested to know what type of crime renders one disenfranchised...

Since my post 347 was a question, Eliminator shows his intellect for this:

Why Obama will Win08-09-2008 06:17 AMEliminatormust have worked your brain quite a bit to write all this dribble.