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    execution is no victory for democracy. If, as reported, he surrendered, then this is a war crime.

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    plenty of war crimes have been committed in this conflict, don't expect any prosecutions though as we are complicit in those crimes

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    War crimes my ass - bye bye you m-f-scum and sons

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    Matthew Perry Sitcom 'Second Chance' Predicted Gaddafi Would Die in 2011

    Matthew Perry Sitcom 'Second Chance' Predicted Gaddafi Would Die in 2011

    Did a cheesy 1987 Matthew Perry sitcom predict that Muammar Gaddafi would be killed in 2011? A Reddit thread pointed out the wild 'Second Chance' coincidence after the Libyan dictator was killed in Sirte.

    In the Fox show, which was set in 2011, the main character Charles, played by Kiel Martin, dies in a hovercraft accident, and after meeting St. Peter at the gates of heaven, is judged to be neither good enough for heaven or bad enough for hell. He's sent back to earth to help his teenage self, played by Matthew Perry, to live a more virtuous life.

    But right before the scene in the pilot where Martin meets St. Peter, guess who else pays him a visit? None other than Colonel Gaddafi, with his trademark fatigues riddled with bullet holes. "Dead? It is impossible for me to be dead," the fictional Gaddafi says, before St. Peter sentences him to spend eternity in hell. It's a delightfully corny and really weird scene.

    The Qaddafi portion starts at approximately 2:20:


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    Gaddafi Killing Gets War Criminal Blair Off The Hook

    The assassination of Muammar Gaddafi via a combination of NATO bombs and US-backed al Qaeda affiliated rebels, serves to sweep away a myriad of, shall we say, uncomfortable circumstances. Perhaps the most damning of those are the intimate links shared between Gaddafi and his “good friend” Tony Blair.

    The former Libyan dictator’s death negates any requirement for a UN International Criminal Court trial, a la Saddam Hussein or Slobodan Milosevic. Thus Blair’s intimate business dealings and multiple secret meetings with Gaddafi during his tenure as British Prime Minister and beyond will be kept away from public scrutiny.

    As reported by the London Telegraph just last month, Blair’s close relationship with Gaddafi was once again thrust into the spotlight with the revelation that he privately met the dictator a total of six times since leaving Downing Street in 2007.

    On two of those occasions, Blair arrived in Libya on a jet, privately chartered by the Gaddafi regime.

    Five of the visits took place in the months prior to the release of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber. It is thought that Blair helped broker business deals with Gaddafi by promising to push for al-Megrahi’s release from prison in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post

    Well, considering all the help he got from his western friends, and according to this vid, I'd say Colonel MG is just another Barry Manillow .



    P.S. What Gaddafi was missing is a good woman on his side. I was thinking of someone like M. Thatcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamBlake
    Lucky he wasn't a woman. He could have been shot in the Libya.
    Under the Sirte?...

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    Well Wyre Davis - you ought to be covering Welsh Rugby League if your big scoop is being led by the nose to the refrigerated trailor where Gaddafi's body lies. A real journo would have the following questions - so make sure these appear in your blog mate:

    1. Who led you to Gaddafi's trailor?
    2. Who provided the trailor to keep the body cold?
    3. What's the serial number of the trailor?
    4. Who owns the trailor?
    5. What were the stories of all the people around the trialor (I'm sure you asked everyone there) and do they match?
    6. Do you have mobile phone numbers and accurate identities of everyone you interviewed? (not always possible - understandable - but who did you get?)
    7. Did you talk to the guy who made the mobile phone recording and did you get your own original copy?
    8. And of course, you got your own scraping to check it IS actually Gaddafi and you can check in UK?
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    Classic New York Post, eh?


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    I find it ironic all the so called anti war people and peaceniks are creaming in their pants over the execution of Gaddafi, a man who they couldn't match on their best day. The deposing and execution of Gaddafi goes to show you how powerful the media is, and how dumb the masses are. He was a mostly benign leader who enriched his country, and helped the down trodden across the globe, regardless of their religion and race. Now Libya can be run by terrorist and EU rent boys who will steal the countries wealth.

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    Gaddafi’s ‘Last Will’

    Here is the English transcript of Gaddafi’s last will as published by the BBC.

    "This is my will. I, Muammar bin Mohammad bin Abdussalam bi Humayd bin Abu Manyar bin Humayd bin Nayil al Fuhsi Gaddafi, do swear that there is no other God but Allah and that Mohammad is God's Prophet, peace be upon him. I pledge that I will die as Muslim.

    Should I be killed, I would like to be buried, according to Muslim rituals, in the clothes I was wearing at the time of my death and my body unwashed, in the cemetery of Sirte, next to my family and relatives.

    I would like that my family, especially women and children, be treated well after my death. The Libyan people should protect its identity, achievements, history and the honorable image of its ancestors and heroes. The Libyan people should not relinquish the sacrifices of the free and best people.

    I call on my supporters to continue the resistance, and fight any foreign aggressor against Libya, today, tomorrow and always.

    Let the free people of the world know that we could have bargained over and sold out our cause in return for a personal secure and stable life. We received many offers to this effect but we chose to be at the vanguard of the confrontation as a badge of duty and honor.

    Even if we do not win immediately, we will give a lesson to future generations that choosing to protect the nation is an honor and selling it out is the greatest betrayal that history will remember forever despite the attempts of the others to tell you otherwise."

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    that's not a will ,

    it's a manifesto .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs View Post
    I find it ironic all the so called anti war people and peaceniks are creaming in their pants over the execution of Gaddafi, a man who they couldn't match on their best day. The deposing and execution of Gaddafi goes to show you how powerful the media is, and how dumb the masses are. He was a mostly benign leader who enriched his country, and helped the down trodden across the globe, regardless of their religion and race. Now Libya can be run by terrorist and EU rent boys who will steal the countries wealth.
    The irony is, you don't know what irony is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs View Post
    Let the free people of the world know that we could have bargained over and sold out our cause in return for a personal secure and stable life. We received many offers to this effect but we chose to be at the vanguard of the confrontation as a badge of duty and honor.

    Even if we do not win immediately, we will give a lesson to future generations that choosing to protect the nation is an honor and selling it out is the greatest betrayal that history will remember forever despite the attempts of the others to tell you otherwise."
    Manifesto or not - they are fair points. He could have taken the buy-out. He chose not to.

    As insane as he was on the best of days, he did spread the oil wealth around Libya in the way of schools, health care, hospitals and infrastucture - Libyans were not poor - though of course enriched himself too. He was a ruthless dictator and a sponsor of internatonal terrorism against civilians and so for that, at least, he got his cumuppance - and good riddance. I just hope Libyans don't abandon their socialist foundation. You can bet the Americans will do their best to see it dismantled though. I still firmly believe the "Arab Spring" has been pushed along by a CIA operation - likely an off-the-shelf variety - for the purposes of ridding the Arab states of any socialist movements (and worldwide).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    for the purposes of ridding the Arab states of any socialist movements (and worldwide).
    And that's a bad thing?

    Greece
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    Wonderful economies they have, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    Manifesto or not - they are fair points. He could have taken the buy-out. He chose not to.
    indeed, more courageous that NATO that could only bomb innocent civilians from 10,000 feet above

    NATO is a disgrace, the Russians were right at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    NATO is a disgrace, the Russians were right at the end
    Got that right!

    How they vote in the United Nations:Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:

    Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time

    Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time

    Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time

    United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.

    Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.

    > Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.

    Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.

    Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.

    Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.

    Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.

    Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.

    Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.

    India votes against the United States 81% of the time.

    Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.

    Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

    U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

    Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United
    States,

    still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

    Jordan votes 71% against the United States

    And receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

    Pakistan votes 75% against the United States

    Receives $6,721,000,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

    India votes 81% against the United States

    Receives $143,699,000 annually.

    WHY?

    THEY ACTUALLY BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM.

    Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to
    the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs View Post
    I find it ironic all the so called anti war people and peaceniks are creaming in their pants over the execution of Gaddafi, a man who they couldn't match on their best day. The deposing and execution of Gaddafi goes to show you how powerful the media is, and how dumb the masses are. He was a mostly benign leader who enriched his country, and helped the down trodden across the globe, regardless of their religion and race. Now Libya can be run by terrorist and EU rent boys who will steal the countries wealth.
    The irony is, you don't know what irony is.
    Are you one of those dumb fuck Brit with a hot one for the Colonel, because he was some fooking wog who supported those terrorist Fenian bastards in their fight against the Evil Empire? Name one leader in your country would have the courage to die defending his land in his home town with his sons at his side? Your PM and his terrorist goons in the NTC just slaughtered more people in a few months then Gaddafis entire regime did in forty two years.

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    Should I be killed, I would like to be buried, according to Muslim rituals, in the clothes I was wearing at the time of my death and my body unwashed, in the cemetery of Sirte, next to my family and relatives.
    It shows exactly how much he knew about Muslim rituals.

    Still, if he really wanted to be lobbed into a hole in the desert smelling like a badger's arsehole, he got what he wanted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Should I be killed, I would like to be buried, according to Muslim rituals, in the clothes I was wearing at the time of my death and my body unwashed, in the cemetery of Sirte, next to my family and relatives.
    It shows exactly how much he knew about Muslim rituals.

    Still, if he really wanted to be lobbed into a hole in the desert smelling like a badger's arsehole, he got what he wanted.
    He didn't. They wouldn't allow him the grave he wanted.

    And isn't that an expression of totalitarianism, when a new regime can't allow someone to even have a grave without fearing it will become a 'shrine' to a competing ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Should I be killed, I would like to be buried, according to Muslim rituals, in the clothes I was wearing at the time of my death and my body unwashed, in the cemetery of Sirte, next to my family and relatives.
    It shows exactly how much he knew about Muslim rituals.

    Still, if he really wanted to be lobbed into a hole in the desert smelling like a badger's arsehole, he got what he wanted.
    He didn't. They wouldn't allow him the grave he wanted.

    And isn't that an expression of totalitarianism, when a new regime can't allow someone to even have a grave without fearing it will become a 'shrine' to a competing ideology.
    In fairness they stated that they wanted neither that nor a target for anti-Gadaffi vandals, and I can see their point.

    The bloke's dead, he may or may not get his 72 virgins, fill the hole and move on.

    The big question remaining is where is that horrible little c**t Seif?

    He's been running the show for the last few years, and he does represent an opportunity for continued strife.
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    Yes, they need to find him and torture him a bit before shooting him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pol the Pot View Post
    Yes, they need to find him and torture him a bit before shooting him too.
    Oh I think he'd seriously want to top himself before they get hold of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    How they vote in the United Nations:Below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations records:

    Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time

    Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time

    Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time

    United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.

    Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.

    > Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.

    Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.

    Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.

    Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.

    Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.

    Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.

    Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.

    Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.

    India votes against the United States 81% of the time.

    Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.

    Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

    U S Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

    Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United
    States,

    still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

    Jordan votes 71% against the United States

    And receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

    Pakistan votes 75% against the United States

    Receives $6,721,000,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

    India votes 81% against the United States

    Receives $143,699,000 annually.

    WHY?

    THEY ACTUALLY BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM.

    Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to
    the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.
    So US Foreign Aid should just be used as vote buying in the U.N?

    The "allies" support for US votes isn't very high either, with the exception of Israel (no wonder there)
    Last edited by TizMe; 26-10-2011 at 09:52 PM.

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