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    ^^ This will not change the minds of the people who hate the breed based on little more than what they see in the media..... Sad, And if the poor lady did fall from a latter and die, While her pit bull tried to nudge her so she would wake up....That's just a tragedy, Now this man is without wife, child and possibly a best friend who did what it could while master was off at work.

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    Hatred and fear of pitbulls was around for a long time before this story, and not without reason- one mistaken fact doesn't erase hundreds of maulings and killings.

    Yes, they are not all bad, but the breed has a capacity for aggression that few other types of dogs possess- that really can't be argued as it's supported by the facts.

    Potential pitbull owners should at a minimum be properly vetted before being allowed to have this type of dog, and insurance against death/injury should be a requirement.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    Hatred and fear of pitbulls was around for a long time before this story, and not without reason- one mistaken fact doesn't erase hundreds of maulings and killings.

    Yes, they are not all bad, but the breed has a capacity for aggression that few other types of dogs possess- that really can't be argued as it's supported by the facts.

    Potential pitbull owners should at a minimum be properly vetted before being allowed to have this type of dog, and insurance against death/injury should be a requirement.
    Exactly. Insurance on the Dog. I'm pretty sure that some (maybe most) homeowner's insurance in the US covers damage done by dogs to people and property....Excluding of course pit bull's and rottweiler. Maybe just a pipe-dream... but it would help keep dangerous dogs from going to dumb people.

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    I always did hate ladders.

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    Have any details of the circumstances of the attack been made public? I realize it wouldn't be possible to know exactly what happened, but there may some clues which would help understand why the dog attacked.

    It's been proven that educating ppl on dog behavior is a better way to prevent attacks than banning breeds. Yet the media rarely mention the circumstances.

    A few years ago a dog chewed it's owner's face off, this made front page news with reports saying it was a pitbull, it was later revealed to be labrador, but this was buried on page 3.

    The woman took an overdose of sleeping pills, the theory is the dog started licking to wake her up, then instincts took over and it started chewing.

    A young girl was killed by 3 rottweilers in Thailand a few years ago. She ran into the house alone late at night where the dogs were sleeping with the grandparents. Being a guard breed they reacted instinctively, if there was only dog it may have stopped.

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    ^ I hadn't read the full thread before posting.

    So it may be that the woman fell from the ladder, one dog was trying to revive her, while another was distressed cowering in the corner. Sounds like typical behavior for any dog breed.

    Would be good for some to admit they were to quick to judge.

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    I hope the dog's been killed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    I hope the dog's been killed?
    It was shot dead by the police. Shame really when it appears it had done nothing wrong in the first place.

    I just hope they melted the ladders down for scrap or they could go on to kill someone else.

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    Police are not normally good with Dogs and Humans.

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    What about ladders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    What about ladders?
    OSHA Approved.

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    Calls for more action on pitbulls

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    THE pet industry says governments need to crack down on pitbull terriers after the death of a Melbourne girl, but others say the problem lies with the owners and not particular breeds.

    An American pitbull-mastiff cross mauled the four-year-old to death in St Albans last night.

    Pet Industry Association of Australia president Steve Austin said there was a problem with the pitbull breed and the pet registration process should be changed nationally for any dog that had genetic pitbull heritage.

    "We'd like to see regulations that exist in NSW - deeming that dogs of pitbull heritage must be temperament-assessed by a licensed assessor - adopted nationally," he said in a statement.

    "This ensures that restrictions are placed on dogs in relation to the way they are kept and where the dog can go."

    The Victorian Government introduced laws in 2005 requiring all pitbulls and other restricted breeds to be desexed, effectively breeding them out of existence.

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    The Nationals deputy leader Peter Walsh today said owners should be held responsible for their dogs' actions, similar to people charged with culpable driving.

    American Pit Bull Terrier Club of Australia president Colin Muir said the issue was not about a particular breed but the wider problem of responsible ownership of dogs.

    "A breed doesn't do these things, an individual dog does, and it's irrelevant what the breed is," Mr Muir told AAP.

    "The issue is not about breed, it's about dogs and dogs in the community and how we look after them.

    "Owners need to wake up to themselves and the reality is they just don't."

    He said no dog of any breed was safe to be left unattended with children.

    Mr Muir said less than one per cent of dog attacks in Victoria were attributed to pitbulls.

    He said the state's breed-specific legislation shifted the argument about dangerous dogs to focus just on whether it was a pitbull or not, regardless of whether it was a dog which had attacked.

    "Is a pitbull potentially more dangerous than a Chihuahua, in capacity I would say yes.

    "But it's all relative. In temperament ... a properly bred (pit bull) dog is in fact less likely to be a problem than a whole range of other pure-breed dogs purely on the nature of the breed.

    "An American pitbull terrier's got 150 years of selective breeding for non-aggression to people."

    Mr Muir said American pitbull terriers were even used as therapy dogs in hospitals in the US.

    Melbourne dog trainer and behaviourist Brad Griggs said there was no particular problem with pitbulls.

    "One pitbull acts as differently to another pitbull as a Doberman acts to a Yorkshire terrier.

    "I come across more dangerous golden retrievers and Yorkshire terriers and Yorkshire-cross Shih Tzus etc than I come across dangerous mastiff-style dogs. Most of them will only lick you to death."

    He said Victoria's breed-specific legislation was ineffective and the death was a call to action.

    "This is a social issue, it's not a breed issue."

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    No matter what the breed is.
    No dog should be left unattended when there is a child in the area. Also the child will need to be taught how to treat the dog in a respectful manner.
    Whether it's a pitbull or a beagle.....

    However it is still very much down to the owner of the dog. An untrained dog is just like a misbehaving child.
    A trained dog will know not to bite, jump, chase and to behave at all times.

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    Put down the owner as well as the dog. End of problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate View Post
    No matter what the breed is.
    No dog should be left unattended when there is a child in the area. Also the child will need to be taught how to treat the dog in a respectful manner.
    Whether it's a pitbull or a beagle.....

    However it is still very much down to the owner of the dog. An untrained dog is just like a misbehaving child.
    A trained dog will know not to bite, jump, chase and to behave at all times.
    A lot of the people that are attracted to buying "macho" dogs like pitbulls don't have much training themselves. The breed attracts a certain demographic of people that would not consider looking after a dog normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate
    No dog should be left unattended when there is a child in the area.
    In this case, the dog got out of it's own house or yard and ran into a neighbours house, killed the kid and injured 3 or 4 others before running back to it's own yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate
    No dog should be left unattended when there is a child in the area.
    It was in a different house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate
    Also the child will need to be taught how to treat the dog in a respectful manner.
    She's dead.

    Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate
    No dog should be left unattended when there is a child in the area.
    It was in a different house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate
    Also the child will need to be taught how to treat the dog in a respectful manner.
    She's dead.

    Idiot.
    made a reference to how dogs and children should be treated.
    At no time a reference was made to what you assume it is.

    You fricken idiot.

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    Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Sure.
    Yes idiot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Sure.
    Yes idiot!
    Now I'm being called an idiot by one of the most mentally challenged posters on here.

    How cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Travelmate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Sure.
    Yes idiot!
    Now I'm being called an idiot by one of the most mentally challenged posters on here.

    How cute.
    One thing is clear.
    And you brought it up in an earlier post.
    A young child has an unfortunate death.
    You have taken it out of context for your own gain to demean others.
    You still remain the most inconsiderate kunt on any forum I have ever come across.
    Thus with your above post and earlier posts the idiocy is on you.
    To take the death of a child and to use to your advantage, makes it very clear you are mentally challenged and very sick.
    Retard.

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    Good try, retardboy.

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