Thread: Finally the Aus Goverment have started showing some balls!

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when captured as crew they claim they are 17 and treated as a minor and bleeding hearts say cant jail a child.
smack on wrist so called child sent home

The question posed by channel 9 on there Web Sight.

" Do you think the refugees will be mistreated in Malaysia ? "

14000 said Yes.

34000 said No.

Anyway the pin headed Lawyer who is being payed a motsa by Australian Tax payers has had another win as the deal has been put off for another 2 weeks.

It will once again be presented to the high court for a decision, in the mean time the Smugglers are pissing themselves laughing and loading there boats.

I love Australia but its time like this that it shits me to death, suppose Mid will be on the piss tonight.

Anyway, its fair to say that if the deals falls over Gillard will throw her self under a truck as Labor will be well fuked.

Tony Abbott is sharpening the knife for the final plunge and liberal will trounce home in the next election.

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sad day but carbon tax will kill her
ads on tv here showing tax will take jobs away from miners in QLD, and other countries will supply coal instead.

20 year contracts for the supply of coal now in place so no job loss for 20 years.
by then hopefully the coal users will change to clean energy or keep getting taxed.
not in my life time.

and i dont think most people give a shit how they are cared for kids or not they just want them to get in the que.
We are wasting billions of $ with the detention centres
why not just process overseas less boat people, besides they they can go straight to the indonesia processing centre and sign the sorry book and apply.

or do it from their own country i think we can still arrord embassies overseas

hopefully they stop they are bleeding thid country

Malaysia asylum digs get touch-up
Karlis Salna
Mon Aug 8 2011

In Port Dickson, a popular resort town by the ocean about 90 minutes' drive from Kuala Lumpur, workers are putting the finishing touches on the accommodation being prepared for the asylum seekers covered under Australia's controversial swap deal with Malaysia.

While they have been described by the Australian government as "budget hostel-style" facilities, a visit to Port Dickson has revealed that one of the properties is actually a large, peach-coloured former hotel surrounded by trees and just metres from the beach.

The property is by no means luxurious but it's also not budget-hostel-style and is a far-cry from the conditions to which the majority of the 94,000 refugees already living in Malaysia would be accustomed.

It's unclear whether the asylum seekers who may be housed there will be able to use the tennis court.

Security guards at the locked front gate refused requests by AAP to enter the property, which was surrounded by walls about 1.5 metres high.

Attempts had been made to cover the tennis court with a makeshift nylon sheeting.

But a cleaner named Nathan, who had been working at the property, said outside that he had been working on it until 11pm and it was "ready to go".

"The people will come very (soon)," he said, before being told that the plans to send a group of 16 men from Christmas Island to Kuala Lumpur on Monday had been put on hold following court action in Australia.

It's now unclear when and even if the accommodation will be used after the High Court on Monday extended an injunction delaying their departure for at least another two weeks.

Justice Kenneth Hayne on Monday extended the injunction until the full bench could consider the lawfulness of the Australian government's policy.

A group of 16 asylum seekers had been due to fly out on Monday at 11.30am (AEST) before an injunction on Sunday initially delayed their departure until 4.30pm.

Monday's decision means they will remain in Australia for at least another fortnight, until the full bench can consider the lawfulness of the government's policy.

Plans by the Malaysian government to issue a statement following the arrival of the first group of asylum seekers were cancelled, with one official telling AAP that there would be "no comment until further notice".

The properties in Port Dickson, 90 kilometres from the Malaysian capital, were to be used as transit facilities which would house those covered under the swap deal for up to 45 days.

The two facilities are about 10km apart.

While one appears to be quite a comfortable place, the second, formerly used by a cycle club as a sort of holiday lodge for members, is much more modest.

It consists of two buildings with accommodation for about 10 to 12 people.

While it's also not too far from the ocean, and even offers a slight view of the sea, it is a place which matches the government's budget hostel-style description.

It had what appeared to be a newly erected wire fence around the perimeter of the property and was also guarded by security men.

Despite the High Court ruling coming as a blow to the Australian government, Immigration Minister Chris Bowen on Monday remained of the view that the transfers of asylum seekers would eventually still go ahead.

"We will vigorously argue in the full bench hearing that this agreement meets not only our domestic legal requirements but our international obligations," Mr Bowen said.

"I'm confident that when the full bench considers the case the injunction will be lifted, the transfer will occur and the arrangement will be implemented."

news.ninemsn.com.au

You kow this David Mann a-hole walked out of the court today looking all smug,
He has single handedly killed the dreams of many burmese people who were absolutely over the moon about coming here and escaping their shit life in a legal manner after waiting for 6 or 7 years. I think it is piss weak that a court can over ride a decision the government has made. Pending what the decision will be after the two weeks (which we all very sadly know) this cock head had just made it easier for these kunts to rock up how and whenever they feel like it willy nilly even more so now knowing that we can do fuk all to stop the friggin ass holes.
Anyone see the muslim prick on the boat today on the news waving to the camera laughing and then giving the thumbs up?
Cant believe our government tried something no other country has ever done to try to deter them and this prick just shot them down. I hope he dies suddenly.

Furthermore, sending them to a country that has proven to be inhumane!
WTF as if, whilst the rest of the world is watching them like hawks? i dont think so!
But they could be treated with absolute respect and dignity that they dont deserve, but then they will bull shit and say that they were beaten or whatever to get away from there and cause trouble, coz thats what they are like the lying, dirty, cheating, lazy turds they are.
They said that the boat people were petrified at the prospect of going to Malaysia, well woopy fuking doo!
Means that the plan may well have worked if this rodent didnt fuk it up.

Yahoo 7 did a survey in the last few days and 78% of Australians surveyed want to send them all back....
22% don't want to.
No prizes for guessing who the 22% are........

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Yahoo 7 did a survey in the last few days and 78% of Australians surveyed want to send them all back....
22% don't want to.
No prizes for guessing who the 22% are........

Yeh good point.

78% have had enough seems to be a majority, let me see wishes of the people sounds fair enough.
send them back or end up like the UK.
perfect example of lax immigration policies and bleeding heart tree huggers

Perfectly reasonable scenario even though I would be surprised if Turnbull takes over considering Abbotts showing against Gillard in the last election.

Libs don't have to do anything really, just hang tight and get Abbott to shut the fuk up a tad.

Holly shit batman,

Just been watching the latest news, the legal refugees from Malaysia will be arriving next week whether this deal concerning the Illegals fall over or not.

We could very well end up with a situation where we will have both parties in Australia with the boats keep on coming.

The 78% will love that !

Doesnt surprise me,b ut they are still legal so bring them on

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Yep, be pushing shit up hill complaining about the legal refugees and no one has on this thread which gives us more credit by sticking with the issue at hand.

The do gooders and bleeding hearts cant trot out the racist card.

Originally Posted by terry57

Anyway, its fair to say that if the deals falls over Gillard will throw her self under a truck as Labor will be well fuked.

Tony Abbott is sharpening the knife for the final plunge and liberal will trounce home in the next election.

And thank god for that.

Originally Posted by brettandlek

I think it is piss weak that a court can over ride a decision the government has made

Absolutely, bloody annoying having an independent Judiciary.

I think Burma, North Korea and China manage to control their judges...

Originally Posted by Khun Custard

So Ahmed is packing is bags back in West Wackistan and the news comes thru about if caught you will sent to Malaysia ....
Hmm said Ahmed "not the promised land I was thinking about" ... better stay here an plant a few more poppys and buy a Biz class airline ticket!!

It worked once before spectacularly, when the previous government was tough on illegals. Have a look at the graph posted twice on page 6 of this thread....and look at what happened suddenly as soon as the new government ( known for being soft on boat people ) got in power.

Originally Posted by terry57

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Yep, be pushing shit up hill complaining about the legal refugees and no one has on this thread which gives us more credit by sticking with the issue at hand.

The do gooders and bleeding hearts cant trot out the racist card.

I kinda like the idea of a Christmas Island

High Court to continue Malaysia hearings
August 22, 2011

THE federal government's people swap deal with Malaysia is unlawful because the South-East Asian nation has no legal obligations to afford asylum seekers proper protections, the High Court has been told.

The court's full bench today began hearing from refugee lawyers who say the controversial plan to send 800 asylum seekers to Malaysia - in exchange for 4000 already-processed refugees - should be struck down.

The court ordered an injunction against the policy earlier this month but only began hearing detailed arguments against it today. The injunction will remain in force until the court makes a final ruling.

Debbie Mortimer SC argued today the government cannot legally send asylum seekers to a third country that - like Malaysia - does not have domestic or international legal obligations to protect them.

The government's unenforceable political agreement with Malaysia, which contains assurances asylum seekers will be treated humanely, is not adequate, Ms Mortimer told the court.

"There is no commitment in any sense other than a political one," she said.

"It's clear that it's the arrangement that is being used for the comfort about how these people are going to be treated."

Ms Mortimer said the policy also infringed upon three fundamental rights of asylum seekers: liberty, freedom of movement and freedom from assault.

The government says it took into account a range of advice from Malaysian officials, the immigration department and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees before deciding Malaysia was a suitable destination.

The court will continue hearing the case from 10am (AEST) tomorrow.

Refugee lawyer David Manne said outside the court his clients were "relieved" the case was being heard.

"But at the same time they're extremely fearful and vulnerable. They're petrified of being sent to Malaysia," Mr Manne told reporters.

He said he had no idea how long it would take the court to make its ruling.

Five boats carrying more than 300 asylum seekers have arrived in Australia since the government inked the deal late last month.

Meanwhile, charities are offering to care for any unaccompanied children the government wants to send to Malaysia, at no cost to the taxpayer.

Mission Australia and Baptcare have offered to team up with Melbourne's Crossway Baptist Church to help accommodate up to 200 unaccompanied minors.

"It's morally bankrupt to send the children to Malaysia," Mission Australia chief executive Toby Hall said.

heraldsun.com.au

Originally Posted by Mid

High Court to continue Malaysia hearings
August 22, 2011

"It's morally bankrupt to send the children to Malaysia," Mission Australia chief executive Toby Hall said.

But its perfectly OK for there parents to put there lives in danger by sending the from Malaysia to Australia on a shitty boat.

Anyway, they will be absolutely safe on the plane back to Malaysia.

Originally Posted by terry57

But its perfectly OK for there parents to put there lives in danger by sending the from Malaysia to Australia on a shitty boat.

of course NOT ,

nor it it a valid justification for Australia to act in kind .

This whole court saga, has more to do with keeping the "legal gravy train" in Australia instead of Malaysia .....the huge legal machine that feeds from the illegal immigrants that arrive by boat, and the "Australian government funded legal aid blood sucking" that can be attached to them.

The lawyers are using the very naive missionary fervor of well meaning Australians, to support their case for making a fortune from the Australian public purse. When will well intentioned people wake up and see that "unaccompanied children" do not have the thousands of dollars to buy a spot on a death trap fishing boat, let alone the ability to arrange the trip to Australia and shortcut the correct and legal process of legitimate immigration. .....this whole unaccompanied children exercise is just a really expensive SCAM. It's time the terrific job done in accepting refugees, and migrants via the correct channels is seen as the only way to immigrate to Australia, and cut off these legal leaches from the Australian Governments wallet. Congratulations to the new Myanmar immigrants, who have done things correctly and will prosper in Australia.

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by terry57

But its perfectly OK for there parents to put there lives in danger by sending the from Malaysia to Australia on a shitty boat.

of course NOT ,

nor it it a valid justification for Australia to act in kind .

They need to be back with their parents and or relatives in their home country. Not half way around the world.