Thread: Finally the Aus Goverment have started showing some balls!

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by terry57

But its perfectly OK for there parents to put there lives in danger by sending the from Malaysia to Australia on a shitty boat.

of course NOT ,

nor it it a valid justification for Australia to act in kind .

They are not acting in kind. They are not being sent back unsupervised on a shitty boat which may sink or be boarded by pirates, or anything remotely resembling that.
You seem to have a mental block to understanding the issue. As people have repeatedly pointed out, they are being flown back ie. by plane, and treated, fed and housed very well and above all transparently, with many different authorities observing, because of the high profile of the whole thing, and because the Australian government does not want to lose face on the issue. The Government will ensure their fair treatment.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

They are not being sent back unsupervised

nice try BUT that is EXACTLY what you are supporting .

Originally Posted by Latindancer

They are not acting in kind. They are not being sent back unsupervised on a shitty boat which may sink or be boarded by pirates, or anything remotely resembling that.
You seem to have a mental block to understanding the issue.

Mid is trolling for sure so just ignore him. Piss poor effort considering its a serious subject.

Anyway, the high court has put off the judgment for further 8 days and I would not be surprised at all if it falls over in a screaming heap.

Whatever happens, Gillard wont be around much longer as one of her wanker Ministers has been busted buying trollups on his Government credit card.

Its a Criminal offense to use a Government credit card to get blow jobs and now the cops are launching a criminal investigation.

If he gets the arse its game over for Gillard.

What a fuk up EH ????

The only good news is that maybe a Liberal Government might sort this shit out once and for all like Howard did.

Originally Posted by terry57

Its a Criminal offense to use a Government credit card to get blow jobs

Pity that, it would be tax money well spent considering the other wasteful shit governments "blow" our money on.

This is what will be happening in Australia in 10 years......

Photographer captures carnival stabbing - Yahoo!7

Originally Posted by Latindancer

This is what will be happening in Australia in 10 years......

Photographer captures carnival stabbing - Yahoo!7

Instead of having "roo shoots" why not introduce "coon shoots" before it too late?

Originally Posted by terry57

Ministers has been busted buying trollups on his Government credit card.

It was on his union credit card before he became a minister.

Originally Posted by terry57

The only good news is that maybe a Liberal Government might sort this shit out once and for all like Howard did.

Terry do we want more bullshit like children overboard crap & the Tampa ??
John Howard lied through his teeth,and that tosser Abbott has got no idea.

Court ruling scuttles Malaysia swap deal
Adam Gartrell
August 31, 2011

The federal government's asylum seeker policy is in disarray after the High Court scuttled Prime Minister Julia Gillard's Malaysian people-swap deal and left all offshore processing in doubt.

The government is seeking urgent legal advice and cabinet will convene to discuss its options - including a possible return to Nauru's processing centre - after the court ruled the controversial Malaysia plan unlawful.

The court's full bench agreed 6-1 that Immigration Minister Chris Bowen's declaration that Malaysia was an appropriate place to send asylum seekers was wrong.

"The declaration ... was made without power and is invalid," Chief Justice Robert French said in court on Wednesday.

The court ruled a country must be bound by the UN Refugee Convention or its own domestic laws to protect asylum seekers to qualify as an appropriate destination.

The court ordered its injunction against removals to Malaysia be made permanent.

Asylum seekers in detention on Christmas Island danced with joy, cheered and clapped when the ruling was made.

Two hours later, Mr Bowen conceded the decision was a massive blow for the government.

"Let's make no bones about it - today's decision by the High Court is a profoundly disappointing one. Disappointing for the government, disappointing for me," he told reporters.

Mr Bowen said all options were now on the table - including sending asylum seekers to Nauru, a critical element of the Howard government's so-called Pacific Solution that Labor scrapped with much fanfare in 2008.

But the minister said the court's far-reaching ruling could also prevent the government reopening the processing centres on Nauru and Papua New Guinea's Manus Island.

"This decision has potential ramifications for not only our arrangement with Malaysia but offshore processing more generally," he said.

Mr Bowen also refused to rule out resurrecting the Howard government's controversial Temporary Protection Visas, also scrapped by Kevin Rudd.

Mr Bowen - who repeatedly expressed confidence the policy would survive the High Court challenge brought by refugee lawyers - conceded people smugglers would capitalise on the decision and send more boats to Australia.

He accepted responsibility for the policy's failure but noted it had been endorsed by cabinet "at every step".

But despite also presiding over the failed "East Timor Solution", Mr Bowen said he would not resign his post.

"I've got obligations to the government and the nation to see this issue through," he said.

Mr Bowen said the court's decision - which cannot be appealed - was not in line with what was previously considered as accepted law. The court had applied a "new test", he claimed.

Under the deal first announced by Ms Gillard on May 7, the government planned to send 800 asylum seekers to Malaysia in exchange for 4000 already processed refugees. Mr Bowen said he was "inclined" still to accept the 4000.

But more than 330 asylum seekers who have arrived since the government inked the Malaysia deal in July will remain in limbo on Christmas Island until the government can consider its position.

Refugee lawyer David Manne called on the government to respect the ruling and move quickly to process his clients' asylum applications in Australia.

"The real point here is that we have represented some people who came to Australia seeking protection," he said.

"I call on the government not to leave them locked up in limbo."

The Australian Greens echoed Mr Manne's plea and declared they would not support any legislation to undermine the court's ruling.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott called Labor an incompetent government that could not get anything right.

"This is a government mired in incompetence," he said in a statement.

"In Julia Gillard's year of delivery, the government has hopelessly failed to deliver."

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison called on the government to release its legal advice so the public could see how it "got it so wrong".

Rights groups, charities and church groups unanimously welcomed the court's decision.

Australian Lawyers Alliance national president Greg Barns said it represented a victory for human rights in Australia.

"The decision will bring welcome relief to many asylum seekers who have come to this country seeking a better life and freedom from persecution and fear for themselves and their families," he said.

Former Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson said the decision made the government look like a joke: "They didn't just go down, they got slaughtered."

West Australian Premier Colin Barnett said it would be to Labor's "eternal shame" it ever proposed the policy.

news.smh.com.au

The vast majority of Australia's illegal immigrants arrive by plane.
The majority of visa over-stayers are PHOMs.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter. According to "Mid", on page 5 of this thread, the "FACT" is :

that's all you got left ain't it

thankfully the majority of Australians are not red neck arseholes ..............

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Last edited by Latindancer : Today at 07:19 PM.

and I presume the edit is in response to the above .

Originally Posted by Mid

The federal government's asylum seeker policy is in disarray after the High Court scuttled Prime Minister Julia Gillard's Malaysian people-swap deal and left all offshore processing in doubt.

And while the learned Judges were busy making this landmark ruling another batch of "migrants" were busy burning down their accomodations.....in protest. Perhaps the new migrants should be settled right next door to the judges so they can enjoy a really nice mulit-cultural experience. In time they may even get to have sharia law in their neighbourhood.....would'nt that be loverely.....

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter. According to "Mid", on page 5 of this thread, the "FACT" is :

that's all you got left ain't it

thankfully the majority of Australians are not red neck arseholes ..............

ALL ? ALL ?
I could not possibly, even for one SECOND, entertain the thought that the majority of the World's refugees by a country mile are in West Bank + Gaza.....as you so vehemently stated.

You make some interesting and informative posts, Mid, but you don't seem to have a sense of proportion.

keep muck raking , I admitted the error BUT you still see fit to rehash it ,

tells me all I need to know .

Originally Posted by bobo746

Terry do we want more bullshit like children overboard crap & the Tampa ??
John Howard lied through his teeth,and that tosser Abbott has got no idea.

Seriously, Abbott is an absolute cock sucker but the way the Labor government is going they are making it extremely easy for the public to warm to him.

Jeez, fok knows where we will end up.

The High court of Australia has made a decision that the refugees stay.

My self being a fair fellow wont bang on about it anymore as its game over and big boys don't cry.

All I would like to say is, Dudes like Mid are dead set fuking wankers as what will happen now is that the people smugglers will ramp up there operation and we will see a flotilla of Illegals stream into Australia with gay abandonment and laugh like fok at the piss poor pathetic legal system that allows this to happen.

Foking place will be swamped with Illegals and Australia will end up like that steaming fuking shit hole that England has become.

This is a sad day for common sense and a winning day for tossers like Mid.

Fuking amazing Innit ???????

Foking illegal tossers up on Christmas Island are having a massive piss up right now and spitting in the eye of every Australian.

Well done Mid.

Dont write off another legal challenge by the govt and this time maybe they will get it right with their submission.Australias long term future may very well depend on this.

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Dream on mate.

The high court judges passed a majority decision, 6 for and 1 against, even blind Freddy can see the refugees will stay.

What will happen now is that Gillard will be arsed out of Government, we will have that cock sucker Abbott take over and every fuking refugee under the sun will stream into our great country.

Put yourself in the situation of a refugee who is cashed up and has 10k to blow, you would be jumping on any fuking thing that floats after hearing about this decision.

Un fuking believable innit.

I'm watching live on telli the refugee lawyer David Manne who is being payed with my taxes smirking like a Cheshire cat and wallowing in his win today.

Fuking things one See's when one ain't got a gun.

AS I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS POST..NOW PROVED RIGHT ONCE AGAIN.......This whole court saga, has more to do with keeping the "legal gravy train" in Australia instead of Malaysia .....the huge legal machine that feeds from the illegal immigrants that arrive by boat, and the "Australian government funded legal aid blood sucking" that can be attached to them.

What I have a problem with........ is the fact that the Australian High Court can prevent the elected Government of the country, from carrying out their plans to prevent the arrival of illegal immigrants by boat, and control the huge cost to taxpayers of the absolutely massive business that lives off these criminals.

The Australian High Court decision reeks of politics, and is just a further demonstration of the failure of democracy to stop corruption at the highest level, as Australia daily grows and feeds more "Fat Cat" lawyers. The legal system is for most Australians failing to perform as expected, both in sentencing and direction, and is for many a joke ....where penalties for murder are treated little differently to Fraud!....... This is the recipe for a total breakdown of the Australian law and order in the near future, it is a system where voters want to vote for none of the political offers presently on the table, as the government has allowed a situation to grow to where they are "toothless tigers!"......England is in a quite similar position, just a bit further advanced down the track..

The illegal "wannabe Aussie" paying passengers on these Indonesian fishing boats are not Australians, they are criminals (or even worse their innocently used children) seeking to illegally circumvent the Australian immigration system. The Australian public democratically elect a government to carry out the wishes of the majority of voters, to prevent the landing and processing of illegal immigrants in Australia.
You have to ask "why bother to elect a government, if they can be controlled by a non elected, outdated and self interested legal system"?.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

You make some interesting and informative posts, Mid, but you don't seem to have a sense of proportion.

You really mean "mid" makes some interesting and informative "COPY & PASTES"!

As soon as "mid" posts any of his own thoughts it's perfectly apparent the liboturd gramophone is running yet againnnnnnnnnnnn.....

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Yep, why bother voting when the elected Government of the day can be over ruled by the legal system.?

The people of Australia have given Labor a mandate to Govern and we have a situation where it all goes tits up because of 7 tossers sitting in the high court.

In other words don't have a Government, throw democracy down the shitter and turn Australia into a communist state similar to North Korea or Burma.