Thread: Judge approves Assange extradition

The liberal set’s beatification of Julian Assange reached stratospheric levels of stupidity in recent years. A fanboy book on Wikileaks by Guardian journalists Luke Harding and David Leigh said Assange was “like Jason Bourne”, and then went further and said he was a mix of “Mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela”. He is “brave, uncompromising and dangerous”, they said, as part of the Guardian’s mission to “put [him] on the moral high ground”.

Time magazine made him a runner-up in the 2010 Person of the Year Award. He was held up as a otherworldly creature capable only of speaking the truth, in particular by the Holy Trinity of international publications that initially published his revealed wisdoms: the Guardian, the New York Times and Der Spiegel. When Assange found himself being slated by American officials, who said they would quite like to feel his collar, an American journalist said we were witnessing “the persecution of truth itself”. The notion that Assange was some kind of Messianic embodiment of truth was taken to its logical conclusion by one conspiracy-theory website, which said: “Just like Jesus of Nazareth, Julian Assange had a mission to reveal the truth. Now, just like Jesus, he faces persecution and/or death on false and trumped-up charges.”

You know what? When people compare you to Jesus, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela and Jason Bourne, when Time magazine bows down before you, when the entire Left does the secular equivalent of giving you a Magdalene-style foot-rub, when the Guardian’s best-known reporter promises to “put you on the moral highground, so high”, you are going to turn into a twat. It’s just inevitable.

Treat someone like a Messiah and they will behave like one: all-powerful and invincible and never deigning to speak to mere men of the law or other worldly pursuits. And thus was a conspiracy theorist from Down Under turned by an educated cheering mob into a modern-day Moses. Assange is an annoyance of the liberal media’s making.

Here's why Julian Assange is the most annoying and arrogant person in the whole world – Telegraph Blogs

Assange is an annoyance of the liberal media’s making. Says it all.

there was a documentary on Assange and his number 2, a German

apparently Assange don't like to be opposed and will use military terms every time someones try to question him

he is the typical Authoritarian, therefore lies, deception and manipulation are his favorite tools

He wouldn't be the first guy to let being popular go to his head and push his luck sexually. But apparently (if the Nordic News pdf is to be believed) the woman who he is accused of penetrating while she was asleep allowed him to continue. In other words, she gave her permission for him to continue.
Whose version of events that is, I am not sure. I suppose she is saying differently.
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Well done Assange for outing what these right wing loonies are really up to .

Definately Man of the Year

You can't argue with that

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

When people compare you to Jesus, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela and Jason Bourne, when Time magazine bows down before you, when the entire Left does the secular equivalent of giving you a Magdalene-style foot-rub, when the Guardian’s best-known reporter promises to “put you on the moral highground, so high”, you are going to turn into a twat.

Looks like you made the twat status without any accolades, whats you secret?

I agree that Assange is a twat, no argument at all. But that's not the issue.

Seems like there is a very simple solution, US could make an assurance that they will not seek extradition of Assange while he is in Sweden. But they will not, why?

How long was he in Britain before he sought refuge in the Ecuador embassy ?
And is there a satisfactory answer for the question about why the US did not seek his extradition from Britain previously ? If not, he is pulling the wool over our eyes to escape what is probably trumped-up charge in Sweden.
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Originally Posted by Norton

Why should they? This has nothing to do with the US except in Assange's mind.

Bit of a stretch of the truth there.

There is most certainly a large number of officials and senators whom most certainly do want him extradited, there's certainly a number who want him jailed for life, declared a terrorist, even a few nutters who have publicly called for the death penalty.
Does the actual administration want him? Most probably. Will they try to extradite him, hard to tell. Are the Swedish charges politically motivated, almost certainly. Were the girls a honey trap? Unlikely.

Unfortunately, as much as they would like to deny it, the US is a consideration in all this, and their past record of foreign affairs against individuals they dislike is not exactly squeaky clean.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Will they try to extradite him, hard to tell.

Exactly. Hard to tell indeed. Suggesting the US state they will not seek extradition ain't going to happen.

Btw, under EU/US extradition treaty, the EU member state can deny extradition if the charge carries a "potential" death penalty.

So if Assange is whining that the US may extradite him from Sweden, what reason does he give that the US didn't request extradition from Britain before he sought refuge ?

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

But they will not, why?

Why should they? This has nothing to do with the US except in Assange's mind. The argument that the US should make such a statement is ludicrous. What country would ever make such a statement and annul their ability to request extradition? Even if the US does ask for extradition in the future, Sweden can deny the request. Better Assange insists Sweden make a statement they will not grant extradition to any country. Simple solution.

Exactly to the first bit Norton, and you in a way answer why it is just as ludicrous to ask the same from Sweden.

It might appear to be simple, but it is not legal, Sweden is no banana republic, Sweden can of-cause not give a guarantee that they will not/never extradite Assange, there is no basis in Swedish Law for such a carte blanc/never go to jail card.

The Swedes are being asked to do something lay people without to much reflection thinks sounds pretty fair, but it is in reality a trick question, because they can't possibly agree to that, It is not Politicians in Sweden who decides who is going to jail or not, or who is to be extradited or not, but an independent Judiciary and Law, besides the Swedes can not know from where or what or if some kind of valid extradition requests suddenly might crop up, it could be other sexual crimes, fraud with wikileaks funds etc etc etc etc.

So with a bit of clever manipulation the Swedes get to look unreasonable to people not thinking this through.

Sweden could never offer such a guarantee to anyone, Swedish Politicians do not have the authority to do so, and no (Swedish) Judge would ever rule in advance on cases not yet existing, it would not be legal and it would be in contradiction with their signed agreements with other Nations.

The offer is just a con.

Originally Posted by Norton

Btw, under EU/US extradition treaty, the EU member state can deny extradition if the charge carries a "potential" death penalty.

I thought it was a UK thing, not an EU one?

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by Norton

Btw, under EU/US extradition treaty, the EU member state can deny extradition if the charge carries a "potential" death penalty.

I thought it was a UK thing, not an EU one?

The UK is in the EU retard.

in every respect? Not the currency for one.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

in every respect? Not the currency for one.

WTF does the Euro have to do with anything??? What qualifications do you have to be a teacher again???

Originally Posted by buriramboy

What qualifications do you have to be a teacher again???

What does that have to do with this thread, stalker?

The UK can have laws which don't apply across the EU (and vice versa) and the Euro is quite obviously a legal as well as a financial arrangement.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

in every respect? Not the currency for one.

UK in EU but not Euro user. Sweden in EU but not Euro user. Aus is part of the Commonwealth but don't use pounds.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

The UK can have laws which don't apply across the EU (and vice versa) and the Euro is quite obviously a legal as well as a financial arrangement.

Quite so, a point missed on some.

Read the fvuking thread before you post Willy, it is all explained before, the EU including UK and Sweden have an extradition treaty for the whole of the EU, a treaty they all are legally bound by, the EU have then made a collective extradition treaty with the US, one of the conditions in said treaty is that any EU country can refuse to extradite anyone risking the death penalty in the US.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Read the fvuking thread before you post Willy,

Is this sort of abuse allowed in News, I think you should toddle off back to Issues Lardy.

And, yes, I have read the thread.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

If you "by accident" end up home in bed with a 400 pound Aussie Sheila, and she climbs up to sit on your face, you realise you can't breathe and try to shout for her to stop and lift her off, but you are powerless she is way to heavy and strong for you, she realises your plight, but can't give an Aussie fvuck, because she thinks you started making her horny! so now she has the God given right to damned well finish the job, so she grinds on even harder.
You are found later as a vegetable due to the lack of oxygen.

Was it rape?? yes hell it was, and it would be just the same situation even if there had been no permanent injuries and or if it had been a guy pressing on.

So despite what some primitive bush monkey thinks while furiously masturbating over his harem, to the rhythms of his national anthem, inside some asian cave dwelling, - the rights of women to decide for themselves is coming to a cave near you very soon, and it is not courtesy the CIA, just humans moving on from the monkey bit.

Jaysus wept.