Thread: Judge approves Assange extradition

The WikiLeaks founder sleeps on an air mattress in a small office that has been converted to a bedroom.

...he spent his time in a back room, which gets no direct sunlight. Several weeks ago he had a bad cold and appeared depressed

"I’m worried about his health, as I would be for anybody who is having to stay indoors and not get exercise and have sunlight,” said his mommy, Christine Assange.

...friends have encouraged him to put on music and dance as a way of getting physical activity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/17/wo...ef=global-home

perfect.

Watch for Ecuador to make Assmange a citizen and post him in London as a junior diplomat.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Again, if you had listened to the FM (admit you needed to be listening live), he was saying that the Embassy, sympathetic to the Swedish criminal charges, offered for sworn statements to be made within the Ecuadorian Embassy. Sweden refused, rather confusingly, as it has a history of allowing this in other cases, and has even done so in similar cases when the shoe was on the other foot and someone was seeking asylum in THEIR Embassy abroad. When the Ecuadorians sought assurances from the Swedes that they wouldn't use this case to then springboard to a third state's request for extradition the Swedes refused. He (FM) made something like 11 points - all sound - to arrive at the decision to offer asylum, with a preamble that listed UK's obligations to allow Assange and the Ecuadorians to give him asylum and take him out of the country. It was a thought-through statement. The UK will have trouble trying to find a way to respond - but you can bet the Foreign Ministry's lawyers and senior bureaucrats won't be going home tonight.

This case goes back further than that and the time for deals and offers with the Swedes long gone.

Assange had already made an agreement to show up at the Swedish Police request, he had been released and even allowed to travel on the condition he would show in Sweden when asked, but the same day they send the request to his lawyers Assange fled Sweden and has since refused and tried to dictate terms, and if you know a pissed off Swedish Justice system you would know that such endeavors is completely fruitless.

There is absolutely no fvucking way the Swedes would travel round half the world to interview a fugitive suspect who has already pissed on a deal made in Sweden, and it would most likely be illegal according to Swedish crime investigation procedure and anything achieved at such an interview deemed inadmissible in Swedish courts.

So all the other crap from Assange his lawyers and the Ecuadorians is just playacting for the press and the gullible idiots buying it, quite naturally the Ecuadorians in "Britain" is in no position to dictate anything to the Swedes, that would be like the driver of the getaway car offered to throw out one bag of loot if he was allowed to drive off with the robber and the rest of the take .

Finally let's not forget that Sweden by the way has a very good Human rights record that far exceeds anything Equador will ever reach.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Even Sweden has bent over - shame.

Maybe the Swedish government disagrees in principle with Assange's attempts to vandalise diplomatic relations between sovereign nations which has real consequences for real people who suffer when actions like these result in halts delays and cancellations to international trade contracts among other impacts to the orderly management of international relations. Just because the damage is not as visible as the typical terrorist attack does not make it less serious.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by taxexile

he should be extradited to sweden for trial

He is not being extradited by the swedes for a trail, merely "helping the police with their enquiries". Which has offered to do on many occasions from the safety of firstly the UK and secondly from the embassy.

Since when do a common suspect dictate terms about where in the world he wishes to make himself available for an interview after having run out on one deal already made

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Assange is not a diplomat, and he still needs to leave the embassy to get to the airport, the Brit copper who suggested they might storm the embassy to get him is an imbecile.

Or maybe the imbecile is the one who spouts trash on an internet forum without knowing the law.

What law did I 'spout', stalker? Point it out to me, if you can?

I made an inference to the diplomatic storm that the UK would create, if they storm the embassy, which is 100% true. Never mentioned any laws, you need to get over your hard on for me, it's really rather embarrassing.

ROFL at little willy who has been stalking me for months accusing me of stalking, but back on topic, you said the Brit copper who said they might storm the embassy is an imbecile hence you are obviously unaware of the law that entitles them to do just that and the British government have implied they will do just that, but then again apart from being a forum addicted troll there isn't actually a lot that you are aware of.

Originally Posted by Looper

Maybe the Swedish government disagrees in principle with Assange's attempts to vandalise diplomatic relations between sovereign nations which has real consequences for real people who suffer when actions like these result in halts delays and cancellations to international trade contracts among other impacts to the orderly management of international relations. Just because the damage is not as visible as the typical terrorist attack does not make it less serious.

Bingo. Nice summary. Would any citizen sit idly by as his postman stole mail from his mailbox and sold it to a shyster to disseminate to the world? Don't think so. It's criminal.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Assange is not a diplomat, and he still needs to leave the embassy to get to the airport, the Brit copper who suggested they might storm the embassy to get him is an imbecile.

Or maybe the imbecile is the one who spouts trash on an internet forum without knowing the law.

What law did I 'spout', stalker? Point it out to me, if you can?

I made an inference to the diplomatic storm that the UK would create, if they storm the embassy, which is 100% true. Never mentioned any laws, you need to get over your hard on for me, it's really rather embarrassing.

ROFL at little willy who has been stalking me for months accusing me of stalking, but back on topic, you said the Brit copper who said they might storm the embassy is an imbecile hence you are obviously unaware of the law that entitles them to do just that and the British government have implied they will do just that, but then again apart from being a forum addicted troll there isn't actually a lot that you are aware of.

I don't for one minute think they will do that BB, they quote the British law on the subject to put pressure on the Ecuadorian Diplomatic mission in Britain, but actually storming the embassy when all they have to do is wait outside would have negative far reaching diplomatic consequences with other nations not feeling secure in Britain, so that is not going to happen for the sake of Assange IMO.

I do however agree that Willy is a untrustworthy cross forum addict gossiping old harp.

^I'm not implying they will do it, just that there is a law in place to do so if they so desire and that they have threatened to do it, but if that is the route they do decide to go down they have to give 7 days notice, lol.

Assange the weasel, just decides he can rock the world and expose National Secrets that could surely cause extreme unbalance amongst nations - just because Julian thinks thats cool.
He was accused of 2 rape charges, personally i hope he finally ends up in a max. security jail in the US. where they love pretty blonde haired meat and maybe then he will regret how he fucked up the whole security of nations worldwide and realise what rape really is.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

stole mail from his mailbox

The information was not stolen, it was sent to a whistle blower site by a member of the US forces.. The information was published to the world via a number of MSM newspapers.

The information, as reviewed by the US intelligence department, has been assessed as nothing of noteworthy interest.

Originally Posted by Gerbil

Assange is an egotistical arsehole

Yeah, i tried to explain this earlier but i think you did it better than me.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The information was not stolen

It was illegally copied and sold/gifted by a disgruntled homosexual US Army soldier whose job it was to safeguard it. It wasn't his information. That's stolen in my eyes. And the sad little kunt has been in jail for years. He should die for his crime, but probably won't.

Assange took this stolen material and spread it to the world. He has a lot to answer for. His "bombshells" repeatedly turned out to be mundane water-cooler chatter. Loser.

But this case is not about receiving stolen information. It's about running from two countries and cowardly holing up in a banana republic embassy begging for protection and assistance.

What a coward this man of courage turned out to be. And what incompetent police forces Britain and Sweden have proven themselves in this case.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

And what incompetent police forces Britain and Sweden have proven themselves in this case.

Lighten up on the British police here. the fucking snake went into hiding before they had either a reason to chance to arrest him as he was under bail order then.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

cowardly holing up in a banana republic embassy begging for protection and assistance.

Sounds a little like the Chines guy who ran off to another banana republic's embassy earlier this year. That time it was to the failed state US embassy.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

It wasn't his information

Yeah I know in the US the government, the bankers, the police.... are above the law. Most countries the government is allegedly working for the citizens therefore it was the citizens, non secret info, that was leaked.

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

What a coward this man of courage turned out to be

He should jump on a plane and take his chance with US justice eh.

Good on Equador in reminding the US and the UK of their HR obligations.

Well done to assange to in outing the despicable hypocrisy of these 2 so called defenders of freedom.

They should be giving this guy a medal of honour.

And what the fcuck does that imbercile schoolboy willy think he is up to by denying the guy safe passage, are they handing out threats and intimidation and putting out a contract on him.

You can't argue with that

The world that wants stability can.

Originally Posted by LooseBowels

Good on Equador in reminding the US and the UK of their HR obligations. Well done to assange to in outing the despicable hypocrisy of these 2 so called defenders of freedom. They should be giving this guy a medal of honour. And what the fcuck does that imbercile schoolboy willy think he is up to by denying the guy safe passage, are they handing out threats and intimidation and putting out a contract on him. You can't argue with that

You are whining here like you are not happy with the country you live in and it's values.
So fuck off to live in Equador or some place where you feel comfortable with HMR out in your country of choice.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

they might storm the embassy

No, they won't

Originally Posted by buriramboy

British government have implied they will do just that

But then they thought about precedent ?

Originally Posted by dobella

He was accused of 2 rape charges

No

Originally Posted by dobella

and maybe then he will regret how he fucked up the whole security of nations worldwide and realise what rape really is.

Originally Posted by dobella

So fuck off to live in Equador or some place where you feel comfortable with HMR out in your country of choice.

Blah blah blah '" If you are so red, why don't you go live in N Korea" blah blah

Originally Posted by LooseBowels

And what the fcuck does that imbercile schoolboy willy think he is up to by denying the guy safe passage, are they handing out threats and intimidation and putting out a contract on him.

Your lack of comprehension is disturbingly poor. I am not denying the guy anything and I certainly have nothing to do with what is happening in UK.

By they, do you mean the Brit government? If so, what's this business about contracts? You've been smoking too much hashish while watching James Bond movies I think. They only plan to arrest and extradite him, that's all.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

What law did I 'spout', stalker? Point it out to me, if you can?

ROFL at little willy who has been stalking me for months accusing me of stalking, but back on topic,

I take it you cannot then. Didn't think you would. Quick tip dopey, if I make an on topic comment about the thread and you arrive and start making comments about me, then that's stalking, yep, you are the stalker.

said the Brit copper who said they might storm the embassy is an imbecile hence you are obviously unaware of the law that entitles them to do just that and the British government have implied they will do just that,

Uh ha, at huge cost and an international diplomatic storm.

but then again apart from being a forum addicted troll there isn't actually a lot that you are aware of.

You're embarrassing yourself again. Let it go, I'm not gay and I will not be letting you bum me, find another young boy on the internet to harass.

It appears that the Oz political leader are unable to protect a Oz citizen or just ignore him.